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There will never be a top of the line Connie, but what about just under that?
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Introducing the T5-U Connie, Enterprise Edition.
T5 Constitution Class Cruiser
T5-U Constitution Refit Class Cruiser
Something you can still play at endgame without it actually being an endgame ship.
This could go for D7 as well
T5 Constitution Class Cruiser
- Hull: 40,000
- Shield Mod: 1.10
- Weapons: 4:4
- Crew: 225 (Obsolete)
- BOffs: Eng Cmdr, Sci LtCmdr, Tac Lt, Uni Lt, Eng Ens
- Devices: 3
- Consoles: 4 Eng, 3 Tac, 2 Sci
- Turn: 11.4
- Impulse: 0.15
- Inertia: 45
- Bonus Power: +10 Shield, +10 Aux, +5 Engine
- Abilities: Cruiser
T5-U Constitution Refit Class Cruiser
- Upgrade Cost: Requires Upgrade Token
- Hull: 47,500
- Shield Mod: 1.15
- Weapons: 4:4
- Crew: 500 (Obsolete)
- BOffs: Eng Cmdr, Uni LtCmdr, Tac Lt, Sci Lt, Uni Ens
- Devices: 3
- Consoles: 4 Eng, 3 Tac, 3 Sci
- Turn: 9
- Impulse: 0.15
- Inertia: 40
- Bonus Power: +10 Shield, +10 Aux, +5 Engine
- Abilities: Cruiser
Something you can still play at endgame without it actually being an endgame ship.
This could go for D7 as well
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FYI the D7 already got the T5 treatment. There's both a T5 version from the Fleet store (for fleet credits) and a true "fleet" version with T5U capability. BTW, T5U is still very much considered "endgame".
And yes, I would love this ship but you know: CBS... mostly with emphasis on the B and the S.
"Let them eat static!"
Speaking of which, one of the "theoretical beefs" with the "no endgame Connie" was that the Connie shouldn't go toe-to-toe with the Sovvy and Oddy. Since at least the Oddy's been given the FT6 treatment, a Connie that slots in under T6 (which FT5 technically is by one BOff seat) "should" fit into this statement...
Or, as I've proposed before, slot the Connie (and hypothetical T6 T'Liss and D7) in as "Light Cruisers" or what we call Science ships...
Then have some engineer get "creative" on an Akira Class by inverting the nacelles (V shape instead of ^ shape) and paint it in 22nd century colors and... viola, an "endgame" NX-01. Under the "Escort" column, no less.
At this point, for the 6 "eras" of Trek (ENT, TOS, TMP, TNG, DS9, VOY), we'll have the Hero ship from each, and they'll be spread around equally (ENT and DS9 escorts, TOS and VOY as Sci, TMP and TNG as Eng)...
To rob a line: [quote: Mariemaia Kushrenada] Forum Posting is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever. However, opinions will change upon the reading of my post.[/quote]
2. CBS said no.
3. This IS in the FCT.
4. Nobody expects a Model T to compete in a NASCAR race, why should the even older (in relative terms) Connie be considered viable?
Because that argument doesn't work with the way the ships in this game actually are. In terms of the game itself, the Excelsior, the D'Kyr, the Constellation, and even the Ambassador all got to see much more power than their "age" would suggest they should in a post-Nemesis, 2410 timeline.
Realizing that the flexibility of flying ship designs people loved, Cryptic waaaaay back when, wrote their own way out of this with the timeline that got published in the book ... essentially the exterior just looks like the classic, but on the inside it was using the "modular" designs that were created for this time period. So it may look like a Connie, or a Galaxy or a Constellation, but it's still a brand new ship.
Thus this isn't the Model T argument. As it's not an actual Model T.
That being said, this whole thing is absurdly stubborn on Cryptic's part. The moment they released the Excelsior they opened the door for people flying older ships in the modern timeline based on popularity. So their hatred of the Constitution is just bias, and the "CBS said no" excuse they prop out for this entire discussion is laughable.
^This
^and this
The same reason we have ENT era model T andorian and romulan ships in game at t5
Am I seriously the only one that thinks the connie (and to be fair, a lot of fed designs) looks ugly as hell?
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
The Movie Era Enterprise Class(Constitution Refit/Constitution II) is still my favorite... promptly followed by the FASA designed Chandley
But looks are Eye of the Beholder territory.
No, I'm sure you're not. However you're probably in the minority.
T5 is still viable at endgame. I recently took my T5 Mirror Qin into Infected Advanced and STILL did pretty good.
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would seem more believeable if they were listed at 3:3 - 4:3.
Not that they will ever do this.
This doesn't apply to Star Trek Online. You can fly a 22nd era Vulcan science ship at end-game. You can fly the Constellation at end-game. Think about that. The Stargazer was shown to be derelict. And the TNG episode with Riker commanding an admittedly inferior ship in a wargame exercise showed the Constellation to be drastically inferior to the Galaxy Class. Yet in 2410 you can fly this old bucket of bolts.
So the point you're trying to make about the Constitution isn't consistently applied to the rest of the old ships that are popular so people want to fly them.
It's just bias. Which is fine. But really, there's no way to make your argument about the Model T stick in this game when there's other examples that contradict the logic.
I will say this, Tier 6 has probably done the most for Cryptic to distance itself from the hero ships that are by this timeline way too dated to really be top ships of the line. But again, if the Constellation class or the D'Kyr or even the Excelsior can get flown at end-game, then the "but X, Y or Z ship is too old" is an invalid argument. The logic of this game doesn't follow that rule. Instead it's just whim and bias.
People have done it.
People say STO is too easy.
You can make it challenging if you want.
This said, never bring one into elite, unless you've made a private.
Yep - like the fugly modern art disaster that is the Galaxy Class
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Maybe?
If a Mirror Qin is viable at Endgame still, so is a Mirror Connie. Still technically considered endgame.
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So tell me why do you think they would not pick up this easy money
Um... the K'Vort is just an upscaled B'Rel. No difference in the model whatsoever, other than they didn't drop the wings in combat.
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