It's pretty obvious if I may so kindly say so. Extending events may potentially push the schedule for releases of contents the remaining weeks of the year. Push one event and you may postpone all coming events.
You can't be serious. Adding X number of days to an event now has zero impact on starting an event in May. While there may be concerns on turning on too many weekend "events" at the same time, stuff like the Anniversary don't have cooldowns like our ship skills .
They'll decide if they want to throw in an extra day or two or not, but lets keep the reasons for doing or not doing so faintly in the realm of reality.
I bet if they made the event year round people would still complain they could not complete it. It goes back to if you complain enough you will get what you want. Same as the 3 year old kid who throws a fit in the middle of the store will get the toy they want.
Cryptic will do what they want with or without your comments.
It's pretty obvious if I may so kindly say so. Extending events may potentially push the schedule for releases of contents the remaining weeks of the year. Push one event and you may postpone all coming events.
You can't be serious. Adding X number of days to an event now has zero impact on starting an event in May. While there may be concerns on turning on too many weekend "events" at the same time, stuff like the Anniversary don't have cooldowns like our ship skills .
They'll decide if they want to throw in an extra day or two or not, but lets keep the reasons for doing or not doing so faintly in the realm of reality.
That is in the realm of reality.
Many companies, and especially an MMO that runs on time-based events and releases, yeah they're going to have a fairly tightly organized schedule. I mean seriously, do you not think there's a correlation between the point we're at in Featured Episode content, the nature of the event ship, and the 4pc console set for the new flagships? This is all scheduled way in advance, and timed for release at key points.
An extension to one event impacts the progress of others and release of content. And let's be real here - there have already been silly forum threads complaining about the lack of new content over the course of the Winter and Anniversary Events. But we know there's a content gap during these long-running events, it happens every year. And once the Anniversary Event ends, you can guarantee that the next release of content begins.
Some overpriviledged brat DDoSing the servers for a couple hours every few days isn't Cryptic's fault. It's their problem to address sure, and they're working on it. And sure, I've started getting the map crash bug as well, and that's something the Devs need to fix. But it happens what, every hour or two? And it takes what, 5min at max to log back in and continue? Not enough to require an extension to the event.
I could buy the 'everyone asks for extension in every event' argument to a point, but when technical difficulties occurred before, they did extend it and we have official confirmation they are having difficulties.
Can you please elaborate on this? because I honestly have no idea what you mean. I have seen no issues at all outside of the occasional DDOS attack. I'm sure that's not what you are talking about though since those have been no where near frequent enough to prevent anyone from completing the Anniversary Event.
What confirmed issues are you referring to?
I'm actually going based on confirmation from what Cryptic/PWE confirmed to be DDOS attacks (be here or social media) which appear to happen rather frequently during the event. Now whether the frequency of the occurrence and/or length of time this happen is enough to cause a disruption to the event that would prevent players competing the event is debatable.
I personally have no idea, but the OP is asking *if* there would be an extension provided by Cryptic. All I'm saying is:
1) There have been confirmed reports of interruption of the game, more than on one occasion.
2) What harm (be from the player or Cryptic's perspective) would there actually be to extend it in any way? Why such an up roar against it?
I'm actual just more than very curious on this. So far it's just 'get your life in order and work around it' or 'you don't get it...it's not Cryptic's fault, they gave you enough time' which I'm not saying is wrong to say, but doesn't at all answer my question directly.
you do know there is another 10 days to go yet, given that it only takes 15 days to get the required tokens after you have played the time and tide mission, unless you basically just stating in the last few days to collect tokens you should have been able to collect at least 5 days worth by now surely.
For many of us the event was unplayable for over a week due to the crashing on map transfer bug. That's not even counting all the other problems.
even if you could not play for over a week you still should have been able to collect 5 days worth of tokens in the two and a half weeks that the event has been running giving you enough time to finish in the time remaining.
That depends we still have the major map transfer bug that is making the event and rest of the game unplayable for many players. I have never seen such a major game breaking bug go on for some long without any dev acknowledgement about when a fix is due. Unless its fixed soon how are those players who are unaware of any workaround meant to finish the event in the time left?
if the map transfer bug has not been fixed and there is no acknowledgement about when a fix is due how is extending the event going to help, surely it would be better to finish the event on the scheduled day and rerun the event later in the year when the bug is fixed even if it is only the ship part of the event.
That would make sense but that's not the type of sensible thing one would expect to happen given the history of this game.
so basically answer the question "if the map transfer bug has not been fixed and there is no acknowledgement about when a fix is due how is extending the event going to help"
I think it's a good idea. I know it wasn't necessarily Cryptic's fault with the server issues but what would Cryptic have to lose to extend it?
and there lies the problem, there have been other instances where some players were unable to play due to some outside force and cryptic didn't extend the event, the only time I have known for events to be extended is when cryptic is directly responsible and it effects all of the players not just the unlucky few.
Okay, but, I'm not seeing the problem, at least on Cryptic's end. Does this cost them money or something to extend it?
no but it ensures players will attempt to get the reward within the time frame of the event, like has been previously mentioned just about every event that has been run since I started playing sto there has been someone asking for every one of the events to be extended.
the events are always run across extended time periods to allow for outside forces getting in the way of people getting the main prize in events, when the servers are down for extended periods cryptic will usually extend the event by a day or two but when outside forces are too blame for players not being able to play they usually stick to the original end date.
when you consider that most players completed the ship project by 11th of feb and the event doesn't finish until 24th of feb so you have almost 2 weeks over the top to allow for any outside obstacles that prevent you from playing I think it would be unfair of players not to admit that cryptic have extended the event by default to allow players that might have problems plenty of time already.
Again, doesn't really answer my question directly, but I appreciate the reply anyway.
it answers your question quite fully actually, you just fail to see the logic in the answer but I will repeat it for you.
1) There have been confirmed reports of interruption of the game, more than on one occasion.
although there are confirmed reports of interruption of the game by cryptic they are not responsible for those interruptions or liable in any way.
2) What harm (be from the player or Cryptic's perspective) would there actually be to extend it in any way? Why such an up roar against it?
no harm as such but it will set a precedent, by extending this event they would open themselves up to demands for future events to be extended for everything that stops players from logging in that is caused by things that are beyond cryptics control such as DDOS attacks.
at the end of the day you need to play the event for 15 days to get the ship, the event lasts for 27 days so it is already extended by default more then enough for any player to get the ship even given for any outside influences that might stop players from logging in.
as has been said before I don't think anyone is against an extension, just seeing it from cryptics point of view is all.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Hardcore players are able to wait out this show-stopping lag situation, but casual players don't have that luxury. It is a bit unfair that many casuals will not be fortunate enough to obtain all of of the vouchers needed for this year's ship, due to the lag which is causing the game to be unplayable. There are only a number of days left remaining for the event, every last bit is needed.
Are there any plans to give casual players some relief with an event extension?
Don't think it will happen and better grind some more. Still only a few days left before the end.
I don't think Cryptic will extend the Anniversary Event.
The reason is because the DDoS attacks are just an annoyance to most players. At least that is what I believe since these attacks do not typically last that long. I may postpone playing STO for an hour. That's not to say "what works for me will work for everyone else" since my experience is specific to myself and I have the luxury of mostly playing STO whenever I choose.... it would be nice to sneak in a short session during normal working hours though.
I am sure there are players out there who have a more regimented schedule than I have because of family or whatever. But that's where they need to know what there priorities are and how best to achieve them. Perhaps going to sleep 15 minutes later to do the event is an option. Perhaps waking up 15 minutes earlier is the way to do it. Maybe just tell your family you simply need a bit of "me time" some time at night so that no one disturbs you for 15 minutes (or however long you want to make it). Maybe your day was simply a sh*tstorm where you had absolutely no control of anything and any action you took was meaningless.
I have a friend who's mom is terminally ill and she had to fly back to her native country to take care of her and make whatever preparations she needs to make. I am pretty sure grinding for Anniversary Event ship is not even on her top 25 things she needs / wants to do every day. Maybe Cryptic should extend or repeat the event for her so that when she is done with her ordeal she can grind for the ship just like the rest of us.
i spend more time, per day on the loo, than it takes to complete the mission. are you really expecting us to believe you are unable to find that small amount of 'game time' in order to complete a mission? these ddos, while annoying, are relatively short lived, and have only been accredited for interrupting the game on a few occasions. so short of something serious that would preclude you from playing, such as the situation mentioned by Jag above, there really is nothing that has happened in game to warrant an extension. if a player is unable to manage their time, or has chosen to start the event late, that is very much down the the player.
*i wonder how many posts get created just as a result of any minor interruption cryptic accepts as not being a players fault (even in situations like this, when it is clearly not cryptics fault either) all in the hope of getting something extra for nothing? with some even go so far, as to making it a plea on behalf of the children!! i would lol, but
Hardcore players are able to wait out this show-stopping lag situation, but casual players don't have that luxury. It is a bit unfair that many casuals will not be fortunate enough to obtain all of of the vouchers needed for this year's ship, due to the lag which is causing the game to be unplayable. There are only a number of days left remaining for the event, every last bit is needed.
Are there any plans to give casual players some relief with an event extension?
Before I go off on what's practically the sentiment of this thread...
Exactly how "casual" are these "hypothetical casual players" that these lag spikes have, somehow, cost them the ability to have procured the ship?
I ask because I view myself squarely in the "casual" camp, yet have already slapped L1 of the mastery on my Krenim Time Cruiser, and we still have close to a week to go before the event peters out...
Detecting big-time "anti-old-school" bias here. NX? Lobi. TOS/TMP Connie? Super-promotion-box. (aka the two hardest ways to get ships) Excelsior & all 3 TNG "big hero" ships? C-Store. Please Equalize...
To rob a line: [quote: Mariemaia Kushrenada] Forum Posting is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever. However, opinions will change upon the reading of my post.[/quote]
Hardcore players are able to wait out this show-stopping lag situation, but casual players don't have that luxury. It is a bit unfair that many casuals will not be fortunate enough to obtain all of of the vouchers needed for this year's ship, due to the lag which is causing the game to be unplayable. There are only a number of days left remaining for the event, every last bit is needed.
Are there any plans to give casual players some relief with an event extension?
Before I go off on what's practically the sentiment of this thread...
Exactly how "casual" are these "hypothetical casual players" that these lag spikes have, somehow, cost them the ability to have procured the ship?
I ask because I view myself squarely in the "casual" camp, yet have already slapped L1 of the mastery on my Krenim Time Cruiser, and we still have close to a week to go before the event peters out...
I'm not a casual player by any means, but I just got my ship yesterday. I started day one, missed a handful of days 'cause I was busy, and got it with plenty of time to spare.
Hardcore players are able to wait out this show-stopping lag situation, but casual players don't have that luxury. It is a bit unfair that many casuals will not be fortunate enough to obtain all of of the vouchers needed for this year's ship, due to the lag which is causing the game to be unplayable. There are only a number of days left remaining for the event, every last bit is needed.
Are there any plans to give casual players some relief with an event extension?
Before I go off on what's practically the sentiment of this thread...
Exactly how "casual" are these "hypothetical casual players" that these lag spikes have, somehow, cost them the ability to have procured the ship?
I ask because I view myself squarely in the "casual" camp, yet have already slapped L1 of the mastery on my Krenim Time Cruiser, and we still have close to a week to go before the event peters out...
some people are just adamant that they will only play on certain days say Mondays Wednesdays and Fridays or at certain times say between 8pm and 10pm and absolutely refuse to play any other days or times even if they have missed one of their regular play times due to some reason, this is fine most times but they will not budge even if it means missing out on an event prize, they would rather lay the blame on cryptic in an effort to extend the event.
what gets me is they always play the "I have a life outside of sto with family/work/responsibilities" card - like nobody else has.
they just don't get that sometimes you need to be a bit more flexible.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Man it is a good thing I just went ahead and got the ship with lobi and the first day and skipped the event completely, I do not have to experience anything in this thread.
Hardcore players are able to wait out this show-stopping lag situation, but casual players don't have that luxury. It is a bit unfair that many casuals will not be fortunate enough to obtain all of of the vouchers needed for this year's ship, due to the lag which is causing the game to be unplayable. There are only a number of days left remaining for the event, every last bit is needed.
Are there any plans to give casual players some relief with an event extension?
how odd, you are given a margin of days to help out. i am a very casual gamer on sto these days, usually dont spend very long on and usually spend a long time out between play. yet in all that i missed several days and got it completed before the finish line. i mean spending a few minutes (literally) each day to get a few parts and the travel time.
how is this a problem to spend 5 to 10 minutes a day on this?
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
I am a casual player too, OP, and I also couldn't play the first 3 days due to the server issues... Turns out I gave it just enough time to unlock that ship on all my toons (past, present, and future) and still managed to finish this thing several days ago... with more than a full week to spare...
Now I casually collect omega particles and enjoy the bonus marks I get off the extra Q thingies...
Ah, how wonderful it feels to actually know what I'm doing with my time...
CM
"Equipped with his five senses, man explores the universe around him and calls the adventure science." - Edwin Hubble
Hardcore players are able to wait out this show-stopping lag situation, but casual players don't have that luxury. It is a bit unfair that many casuals will not be fortunate enough to obtain all of of the vouchers needed for this year's ship, due to the lag which is causing the game to be unplayable. There are only a number of days left remaining for the event, every last bit is needed.
Are there any plans to give casual players some relief with an event extension?
how odd, you are given a margin of days to help out. i am a very casual gamer on sto these days, usually dont spend very long on and usually spend a long time out between play. yet in all that i missed several days and got it completed before the finish line. i mean spending a few minutes (literally) each day to get a few parts and the travel time.
how is this a problem to spend 5 to 10 minutes a day on this?
indeed apart from the time involved in playing the "time and tide" mission I have been playing about 1 hour a day running the omega mission on 6 characters although I have stretched the time on a few occasions to gain extra particles but overall if your just going for the ship 15 minutes a day for 15 days over a 27 days period, if you cant manage that even given the few problems that cryptic have had your best bet would be to avoid events altogether and just stick to playing missions and such.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
This is just something that comes up every single event. Some players will always complain, every time, whenever there's a limited-time event. Which is kinda ridiculous when the event is usually about 1.5x as long as it needs to be.
It's an MMO. Limited time events are not only common but expected. Don't like it? Then that might be an indiciation that MMOs simply aren't the best genre of game for you.
This is just something that comes up every single event. Some players will always complain, every time, whenever there's a limited-time event. Which is kinda ridiculous when the event is usually about 1.5x as long as it needs to be.
It's an MMO. Limited time events are not only common but expected. Don't like it? Then that might be an indiciation that MMOs simply aren't the best genre of game for you.
Or its an indication something has gone majorly wrong when less then 25% of the limited time event works making it unplayable for some players so even with the event being 1.5x longer then it needs to be there isn't enough time to complete it. Its hardly ridiculous considering the major bugs right now.
This is just something that comes up every single event. Some players will always complain, every time, whenever there's a limited-time event. Which is kinda ridiculous when the event is usually about 1.5x as long as it needs to be.
It's an MMO. Limited time events are not only common but expected. Don't like it? Then that might be an indiciation that MMOs simply aren't the best genre of game for you.
Or its an indication something has gone majorly wrong when less then 25% of the limited time event works making it unplayable for some players so even with the event being 1.5x longer then it needs to be there isn't enough time to complete it. Its hardly ridiculous considering the major bugs right now.
Less than 25%? Where are you getting those kind of numbers from?
Saying "25% of the limited time event works," then that means the content is unavailable for about 4-plus full days a week. Or a solid three-quarters of every single day.
As someone who has now finished the event and received the ship, I spent maybe 30min per day on it. And as someone who plays the game regularly, server uptime is at least 90%. The DDoSer, patch days, and sporadic connectivity issues account for maybe 10% of total weekly time, at max.
The DDoS's last for about 2hrs, every couple of days. Patch this week was 3.5hrs. Add in maybe another 1-2hrs of server instability per day. How does that render the content unplayable for 75% of a 24hr period, for example?
Sure, the downtime may have occured during times you personally would've logged in. But that's a individual problem, not a universal one.
Usually the DDoS has been for less than an hour, at different times of the day, and not every day. So unless you have a single, set hour during the day to play STO that can't be delayed, that 75% unplayable is wildly exaggerated.
This is just something that comes up every single event. Some players will always complain, every time, whenever there's a limited-time event. Which is kinda ridiculous when the event is usually about 1.5x as long as it needs to be.
It's an MMO. Limited time events are not only common but expected. Don't like it? Then that might be an indiciation that MMOs simply aren't the best genre of game for you.
Or its an indication something has gone majorly wrong when less then 25% of the limited time event works making it unplayable for some players so even with the event being 1.5x longer then it needs to be there isn't enough time to complete it. Its hardly ridiculous considering the major bugs right now.
Less than 25%? Where are you getting those kind of numbers from?
Saying "25% of the limited time event works," then that means the content is unavailable for about 4-plus full days a week. Or a solid three-quarters of every single day.
As someone who has now finished the event and received the ship, I spent maybe 30min per day on it. And as someone who plays the game regularly, server uptime is at least 90%. The DDoSer, patch days, and sporadic connectivity issues account for maybe 10% of total weekly time, at max.
The DDoS's last for about 2hrs, every couple of days. Patch this week was 3.5hrs. Add in maybe another 1-2hrs of server instability per day. How does that render the content unplayable for 75% of a 24hr period, for example?
Sure, the downtime may have occured during times you personally would've logged in. But that's a individual problem, not a universal one.
This is just something that comes up every single event. Some players will always complain, every time, whenever there's a limited-time event. Which is kinda ridiculous when the event is usually about 1.5x as long as it needs to be.
It's an MMO. Limited time events are not only common but expected. Don't like it? Then that might be an indiciation that MMOs simply aren't the best genre of game for you.
Or its an indication something has gone majorly wrong when less then 25% of the limited time event works making it unplayable for some players so even with the event being 1.5x longer then it needs to be there isn't enough time to complete it. Its hardly ridiculous considering the major bugs right now.
Less than 25%? Where are you getting those kind of numbers from?
Saying "25% of the limited time event works," then that means the content is unavailable for about 4-plus full days a week. Or a solid three-quarters of every single day.
As someone who has now finished the event and received the ship, I spent maybe 30min per day on it. And as someone who plays the game regularly, server uptime is at least 90%. The DDoSer, patch days, and sporadic connectivity issues account for maybe 10% of total weekly time, at max.
The DDoS's last for about 2hrs, every couple of days. Patch this week was 3.5hrs. Add in maybe another 1-2hrs of server instability per day. How does that render the content unplayable for 75% of a 24hr period, for example?
Sure, the downtime may have occured during times you personally would've logged in. But that's a individual problem, not a universal one.
Patches are during prime time here so that’s 1 day a week gone. Ddoser, sporadic connectivity issues account for another day gone. But the real problem is the known map transfer bug. When some of us are crashing out of game every other map transfer how are we meant to do the event? It’s a known major bug that’s for many players has made the event impossible to do and not only the event but the game unplayable.
EDIT: As I typed this I was trying to do the event and I just got kicked out again on map transfer. The bugs in this event that are making the game unplayable are x10 worse then any other STO event I have been in. EDIT: Before you say its not my PC or connection its a known bug in the game.
Patches are during prime time here so that’s 1 day a week gone. Ddoser, sporadic connectivity issues account for another day gone. But the real problem is the known map transfer bug. When some of us are crashing out of game every other map transfer how are we meant to do the event? It’s a known major bug that’s for many players has made the event impossible to do and not only the event but the game unplayable.
EDIT: As I typed this I was trying to do the event and I just got kicked out again on map transfer. The bugs in this event that are making the game unplayable are x10 worse then any other STO event I have been in. EDIT: Before you say its not my PC or connection its a known bug in the game.
Sure, if the patch is during prime time that can knock a single day off. But the DDoS and connectivity issues, I don't buy that being a big enough problem. Certainly not "x10 worse" - that's a massive overstatement.
And hate to say it, but it actually is your PC. My aged gaming laptop finally gave out on me, and I switched to a machine with a much weaker processor / GPU. Only now am I getting the map transfer bug, because something in the game isn't playing nicely with my weaker hardware - whereas the now-dead gaming laptop's processor and GPU could handle the data fine. But, I've been using this other machine during the entire event. Between transwarp, the ability to set-and-go in the new sector space map, and all the other quick travel options, I made it through with time to spare.
It's not that the game is unplayable. And it's not that the game is unavailable. It's an individual time availability problem.
“Sure, if the patch is during prime time that can knock a single day off. But the DDoS and connectivity issues, I don't buy that being a big enough problem. Certainly not "x10 worse" - that's a massive overstatement.
And hate to say it, but it actually is your PC”
Really how? I have a high end 6 core CPU with 16GB of ram, SDD and everything else is all high end specs. Everything else works 100% fine the only problem I have is with STO. The problem started with the recent Anniversary event patch and hit me and a bunch of other players at the same time. So how could it be my PC? Everything points towards a problem in the Anniversary event patch. When I crash on transfer maps now for over 3 weeks I don’t see how it’s a massive overstatement.
“It's not that the game is unplayable. And it's not that the game is unavailable. It's an individual time availability problem.”
You are very wrong as the game is unplayable for some. I don’t see how a confirmed bug in the games that the devs admit is a bug is somehow an individual time availability problem. If we are unable to transfer maps due to a game bug it’s not our fault we don’t have time to do the event.
ok in simple terms.. a limited time event, is just that.. a limited time event!
the timing of the weekly maintenance is pretty much a set in stone, so there really is no recourse for complaint there, especially as they have no choice but to complete it during their work hours. we are already provided with a built in extension to any event, these extra days to complete are provided to allow for things like weekly maintenance, real life events and of course, incidental interruptions such as server hiccups and ofc ddos.
giving an extension to players who were unable, or unwilling, to schedule/reschedule a 15 minute mission, once a day, for 15 days, within the allotted dates, would be somewhat extracting the weewee, from all those players who where willing to, and did manage to schedule/reschedule that time.
again.. a limited time event, means just that.. a limited time event! any player foolish enough to leave starting the event till the last possible moment then falling short, or any who couldn't be bothered with the grind until they realised they needed the console for their new flagship, has only them self to blame.
or you could just get your wallet out... I just came back after four months not playing, didn't seem like I had enough time left to grind the ship tokens so I spent a few hundred lobi. I figured getting an event ship is as good a way to spend it as getting a lobi ship
ok in simple terms.. a limited time event, is just that.. a limited time event!
the timing of the weekly maintenance is pretty much a set in stone, so there really is no recourse for complaint there, especially as they have no choice but to complete it during their work hours. we are already provided with a built in extension to any event, these extra days to complete are provided to allow for things like weekly maintenance, real life events and of course, incidental interruptions such as server hiccups and ofc ddos.
giving an extension to players who were unable, or unwilling, to schedule/reschedule a 15 minute mission, once a day, for 15 days, within the allotted dates, would be somewhat extracting the weewee, from all those players who where willing to, and did manage to schedule/reschedule that time.
again.. a limited time event, means just that.. a limited time event! any player foolish enough to leave starting the event till the last possible moment then falling short, or any who couldn't be bothered with the grind until they realised they needed the console for their new flagship, has only them self to blame.
What about those who cannot do the event due to gameplay bugs? Its only a 15min mission once a day when it works correctly. Due to all the bugs it can take me over 1 hour to get 1 day done. there have been times when I only got 1 completion done in 5 days due to bugs despite trying every day.
Throughout the thread I am reading several comments along the lines of "unwilling to schedule a 15 minute slot to complete the event" etc.
My wife is disabled and I am her main carer, this means that whilst I may in theory be able to grab 15-20 minutes here or there throughout the day. I definitely can not schedule my day with any degree of certainty - unfortunately my wife's condition does not operate on a strict timetable and she may need assistance or medication randomly during the day. Whilst I realise that this is nowhere near being a valid reason for any event to be extended nor would I request that this be the case, however I do find the reasoning of some posters that everyone should be able to schedule time to play a game every day somewhat unreasonable and sincerely hope that they never have to deal with circumstances that interfere with their ability to organise their lives to such a degree.
There's no chance Cryptic will add a 4 - 8 week extension like some of you are saying you need with your 1 day in 4 / 1 day in 5 completions.
We had no where near as many problems last year and they did an extension. With it being way worse this year how can you be so sure they will not extend?
There's no chance Cryptic will add a 4 - 8 week extension like some of you are saying you need with your 1 day in 4 / 1 day in 5 completions.
We had no where near as many problems last year and they did an extension. With it being way worse this year how can you be so sure they will not extend?
But you're saying you need 5 days to get 1 completion. If that isn't wild exaggeration then you will only manage 5-6 completions in the 27 days, and will need another 48 days to get 15.
Throughout the thread I am reading several comments along the lines of "unwilling to schedule a 15 minute slot to complete the event" etc.
My wife is disabled and I am her main carer, this means that whilst I may in theory be able to grab 15-20 minutes here or there throughout the day. I definitely can not schedule my day with any degree of certainty - unfortunately my wife's condition does not operate on a strict timetable and she may need assistance or medication randomly during the day. Whilst I realise that this is nowhere near being a valid reason for any event to be extended nor would I request that this be the case, however I do find the reasoning of some posters that everyone should be able to schedule time to play a game every day somewhat unreasonable and sincerely hope that they never have to deal with circumstances that interfere with their ability to organise their lives to such a degree.
you do realise you don't have to do the omega mission all in one hit, you can spread it out over your day, as you say you can grab time here and there so do what you can and then do a little more at a later time and finish up even later and the best part is the cooldown for the mission is from when you first pick up the event not when you complete it so it doesn't matter what time you complete the mission and get your reward, you can still pick up the mission the next day as you did the day before.
or even if the worst comes to the worst spread the mission over two days on the odd occasion, with only 15 omega missions needed to get the ship you had plenty of spare days you could have done this.
I even finish a mission from the previous day and picked up that days mission right away after myself once or twice.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
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You can't be serious. Adding X number of days to an event now has zero impact on starting an event in May. While there may be concerns on turning on too many weekend "events" at the same time, stuff like the Anniversary don't have cooldowns like our ship skills
They'll decide if they want to throw in an extra day or two or not, but lets keep the reasons for doing or not doing so faintly in the realm of reality.
Cryptic will do what they want with or without your comments.
That is in the realm of reality.
Many companies, and especially an MMO that runs on time-based events and releases, yeah they're going to have a fairly tightly organized schedule. I mean seriously, do you not think there's a correlation between the point we're at in Featured Episode content, the nature of the event ship, and the 4pc console set for the new flagships? This is all scheduled way in advance, and timed for release at key points.
An extension to one event impacts the progress of others and release of content. And let's be real here - there have already been silly forum threads complaining about the lack of new content over the course of the Winter and Anniversary Events. But we know there's a content gap during these long-running events, it happens every year. And once the Anniversary Event ends, you can guarantee that the next release of content begins.
Some overpriviledged brat DDoSing the servers for a couple hours every few days isn't Cryptic's fault. It's their problem to address sure, and they're working on it. And sure, I've started getting the map crash bug as well, and that's something the Devs need to fix. But it happens what, every hour or two? And it takes what, 5min at max to log back in and continue? Not enough to require an extension to the event.
it answers your question quite fully actually, you just fail to see the logic in the answer but I will repeat it for you.
1) There have been confirmed reports of interruption of the game, more than on one occasion.
although there are confirmed reports of interruption of the game by cryptic they are not responsible for those interruptions or liable in any way.
2) What harm (be from the player or Cryptic's perspective) would there actually be to extend it in any way? Why such an up roar against it?
no harm as such but it will set a precedent, by extending this event they would open themselves up to demands for future events to be extended for everything that stops players from logging in that is caused by things that are beyond cryptics control such as DDOS attacks.
at the end of the day you need to play the event for 15 days to get the ship, the event lasts for 27 days so it is already extended by default more then enough for any player to get the ship even given for any outside influences that might stop players from logging in.
as has been said before I don't think anyone is against an extension, just seeing it from cryptics point of view is all.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Don't think it will happen and better grind some more. Still only a few days left before the end.
Original STO beta tester.
The reason is because the DDoS attacks are just an annoyance to most players. At least that is what I believe since these attacks do not typically last that long. I may postpone playing STO for an hour. That's not to say "what works for me will work for everyone else" since my experience is specific to myself and I have the luxury of mostly playing STO whenever I choose.... it would be nice to sneak in a short session during normal working hours though.
I am sure there are players out there who have a more regimented schedule than I have because of family or whatever. But that's where they need to know what there priorities are and how best to achieve them. Perhaps going to sleep 15 minutes later to do the event is an option. Perhaps waking up 15 minutes earlier is the way to do it. Maybe just tell your family you simply need a bit of "me time" some time at night so that no one disturbs you for 15 minutes (or however long you want to make it). Maybe your day was simply a sh*tstorm where you had absolutely no control of anything and any action you took was meaningless.
I have a friend who's mom is terminally ill and she had to fly back to her native country to take care of her and make whatever preparations she needs to make. I am pretty sure grinding for Anniversary Event ship is not even on her top 25 things she needs / wants to do every day. Maybe Cryptic should extend or repeat the event for her so that when she is done with her ordeal she can grind for the ship just like the rest of us.
*i wonder how many posts get created just as a result of any minor interruption cryptic accepts as not being a players fault (even in situations like this, when it is clearly not cryptics fault either) all in the hope of getting something extra for nothing? with some even go so far, as to making it a plea on behalf of the children!! i would lol, but
Before I go off on what's practically the sentiment of this thread...
Exactly how "casual" are these "hypothetical casual players" that these lag spikes have, somehow, cost them the ability to have procured the ship?
I ask because I view myself squarely in the "casual" camp, yet have already slapped L1 of the mastery on my Krenim Time Cruiser, and we still have close to a week to go before the event peters out...
To rob a line: [quote: Mariemaia Kushrenada] Forum Posting is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever. However, opinions will change upon the reading of my post.[/quote]
I'm not a casual player by any means, but I just got my ship yesterday. I started day one, missed a handful of days 'cause I was busy, and got it with plenty of time to spare.
some people are just adamant that they will only play on certain days say Mondays Wednesdays and Fridays or at certain times say between 8pm and 10pm and absolutely refuse to play any other days or times even if they have missed one of their regular play times due to some reason, this is fine most times but they will not budge even if it means missing out on an event prize, they would rather lay the blame on cryptic in an effort to extend the event.
what gets me is they always play the "I have a life outside of sto with family/work/responsibilities" card - like nobody else has.
they just don't get that sometimes you need to be a bit more flexible.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
how odd, you are given a margin of days to help out. i am a very casual gamer on sto these days, usually dont spend very long on and usually spend a long time out between play. yet in all that i missed several days and got it completed before the finish line. i mean spending a few minutes (literally) each day to get a few parts and the travel time.
how is this a problem to spend 5 to 10 minutes a day on this?
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Now I casually collect omega particles and enjoy the bonus marks I get off the extra Q thingies...
Ah, how wonderful it feels to actually know what I'm doing with my time...
CM
indeed apart from the time involved in playing the "time and tide" mission I have been playing about 1 hour a day running the omega mission on 6 characters although I have stretched the time on a few occasions to gain extra particles but overall if your just going for the ship 15 minutes a day for 15 days over a 27 days period, if you cant manage that even given the few problems that cryptic have had your best bet would be to avoid events altogether and just stick to playing missions and such.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
It's an MMO. Limited time events are not only common but expected. Don't like it? Then that might be an indiciation that MMOs simply aren't the best genre of game for you.
Or its an indication something has gone majorly wrong when less then 25% of the limited time event works making it unplayable for some players so even with the event being 1.5x longer then it needs to be there isn't enough time to complete it. Its hardly ridiculous considering the major bugs right now.
Less than 25%? Where are you getting those kind of numbers from?
Saying "25% of the limited time event works," then that means the content is unavailable for about 4-plus full days a week. Or a solid three-quarters of every single day.
As someone who has now finished the event and received the ship, I spent maybe 30min per day on it. And as someone who plays the game regularly, server uptime is at least 90%. The DDoSer, patch days, and sporadic connectivity issues account for maybe 10% of total weekly time, at max.
The DDoS's last for about 2hrs, every couple of days. Patch this week was 3.5hrs. Add in maybe another 1-2hrs of server instability per day. How does that render the content unplayable for 75% of a 24hr period, for example?
Sure, the downtime may have occured during times you personally would've logged in. But that's a individual problem, not a universal one.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Patches are during prime time here so that’s 1 day a week gone. Ddoser, sporadic connectivity issues account for another day gone. But the real problem is the known map transfer bug. When some of us are crashing out of game every other map transfer how are we meant to do the event? It’s a known major bug that’s for many players has made the event impossible to do and not only the event but the game unplayable.
EDIT: As I typed this I was trying to do the event and I just got kicked out again on map transfer. The bugs in this event that are making the game unplayable are x10 worse then any other STO event I have been in. EDIT: Before you say its not my PC or connection its a known bug in the game.
Sure, if the patch is during prime time that can knock a single day off. But the DDoS and connectivity issues, I don't buy that being a big enough problem. Certainly not "x10 worse" - that's a massive overstatement.
And hate to say it, but it actually is your PC. My aged gaming laptop finally gave out on me, and I switched to a machine with a much weaker processor / GPU. Only now am I getting the map transfer bug, because something in the game isn't playing nicely with my weaker hardware - whereas the now-dead gaming laptop's processor and GPU could handle the data fine. But, I've been using this other machine during the entire event. Between transwarp, the ability to set-and-go in the new sector space map, and all the other quick travel options, I made it through with time to spare.
It's not that the game is unplayable. And it's not that the game is unavailable. It's an individual time availability problem.
You are very wrong as the game is unplayable for some. I don’t see how a confirmed bug in the games that the devs admit is a bug is somehow an individual time availability problem. If we are unable to transfer maps due to a game bug it’s not our fault we don’t have time to do the event.
the timing of the weekly maintenance is pretty much a set in stone, so there really is no recourse for complaint there, especially as they have no choice but to complete it during their work hours. we are already provided with a built in extension to any event, these extra days to complete are provided to allow for things like weekly maintenance, real life events and of course, incidental interruptions such as server hiccups and ofc ddos.
giving an extension to players who were unable, or unwilling, to schedule/reschedule a 15 minute mission, once a day, for 15 days, within the allotted dates, would be somewhat extracting the weewee, from all those players who where willing to, and did manage to schedule/reschedule that time.
again.. a limited time event, means just that.. a limited time event! any player foolish enough to leave starting the event till the last possible moment then falling short, or any who couldn't be bothered with the grind until they realised they needed the console for their new flagship, has only them self to blame.
My wife is disabled and I am her main carer, this means that whilst I may in theory be able to grab 15-20 minutes here or there throughout the day. I definitely can not schedule my day with any degree of certainty - unfortunately my wife's condition does not operate on a strict timetable and she may need assistance or medication randomly during the day. Whilst I realise that this is nowhere near being a valid reason for any event to be extended nor would I request that this be the case, however I do find the reasoning of some posters that everyone should be able to schedule time to play a game every day somewhat unreasonable and sincerely hope that they never have to deal with circumstances that interfere with their ability to organise their lives to such a degree.
But you're saying you need 5 days to get 1 completion. If that isn't wild exaggeration then you will only manage 5-6 completions in the 27 days, and will need another 48 days to get 15.
you do realise you don't have to do the omega mission all in one hit, you can spread it out over your day, as you say you can grab time here and there so do what you can and then do a little more at a later time and finish up even later and the best part is the cooldown for the mission is from when you first pick up the event not when you complete it so it doesn't matter what time you complete the mission and get your reward, you can still pick up the mission the next day as you did the day before.
or even if the worst comes to the worst spread the mission over two days on the odd occasion, with only 15 omega missions needed to get the ship you had plenty of spare days you could have done this.
I even finish a mission from the previous day and picked up that days mission right away after myself once or twice.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.