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Thanks for the Console Cryptic!

semalda226semalda226 Member Posts: 1,994 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
My PartG stat is now sitting at a healthy 498 and I love it! Gonna test my new destructive power when I get back on tonight as my torps have gained a additional 25% dmg as well! THANKS AGAIN!
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  • crypticrockcrypticrock Member Posts: 120 Cryptic Developer
    You are most welcome.

    Go Do Science To It!
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    What console would that be?! (And how long until it gets nerfed?!)
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  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    The console from the latest episode.

    Just got it myself and it's performing pretty well so far :)
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    risian4 wrote: »
    The console from the latest episode.

    Just got it myself and it's performing pretty well so far :)

    LOL, just picked it up myself today; didn't even read the description all that well. XD Thx.
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  • tmassxtmassx Member Posts: 831 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    What console would that be?! (And how long until it gets nerfed?!)

    1) Probably that one from Time and Tide episode? :)
    2) 99% no nerf, coz it buffing polarons (worst energy type) , torpedoes (still weaker than all energy builds) and particles (embassy consoles are better)
  • tousseautousseau Member Posts: 1,484 Arc User
    Agreed... Many Thanks...

    Now I just need next Thursday to get here for the extra Omni Polaron... 0.o?
  • medalionemissarymedalionemissary Member Posts: 612 Arc User
    Great console for my Jem'Hadar ships, yes thank you!
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  • irm1963irm1963 Member Posts: 682 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    Aye, replaced one of my Dyson's Tac consoles with it. Using Protonic Polaron/both Dyson sets with a radiation damage secondary deflector, so it makes a noticeable increase in damage. Which is nice.

    Not up to Semalda's level since that's set up as a hybrid ship, but I bet the full episode set on the Krenim ship suitably fitted out will be a bit evil :)
  • tousseautousseau Member Posts: 1,484 Arc User
    Huh... same here on my Dauntless.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,688 Community Moderator
    One of these days I'm gonna have to upgrade my Dominion Polaron beams.
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  • kylethetruekylethetrue Member Posts: 205 Arc User
    I'm pretty happy with the new console and set. Goes good with my Vaadwaur polaron weapons.
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  • semalda226semalda226 Member Posts: 1,994 Arc User
    @tmassx the console takes a tactical slot so it can be used with the fleet lab consoles for PartG stats so it's perfect for a pure science player like me whose tactical consoles get filled with universals.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    tmassx wrote: »
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    What console would that be?! (And how long until it gets nerfed?!)

    1) Probably that one from Time and Tide episode? :)
    2) 99% no nerf, coz it buffing polarons (worst energy type) , torpedoes (still weaker than all energy builds) and particles (embassy consoles are better)

    Shows how much you know about Science play.

    Firstly, thankfully, there is more than 1 way to curbstomp this game.

    The Polaron thing I don't care about.

    Majority of Science builds do not place a premium on energy weapons because prioritizing their use, i.e. high Weaps Power, conflicts with the high Aux Power needed for almost all Science heavy builds. There are 2 generic Science build styles that I would put Weapons Power as a higher priority than Aux Power.

    The Torpedo bonus is actually a nice complement of the console for Science builds. Torpedoes are often a secondary feature on Science heavy builds, i.e. secondary to the PartGen/Exotic damage abilities featured on Science Vessels. A number of Torpedoes rely on good PartGens Skill total.

    The PartGens bonus is useful of course to Exotic builds. No brainer.

    Embassy/Research Lab Science Consoles don't have to be replaced by the FE's console. The FE console is a TAC Console. Science Vessels typically load up TAC Consoles with stats that boost the Science abilities that are the heart of the build.
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  • maerikcharonmaerikcharon Member Posts: 108 Arc User
    STAND BACK FOLKS, IT'S TIME TO SCIENCE THE TRIBBLE OUT OF THIS!
  • farranorfarranor Member Posts: 559 Arc User
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    tmassx wrote: »
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    What console would that be?! (And how long until it gets nerfed?!)

    1) Probably that one from Time and Tide episode? :)
    2) 99% no nerf, coz it buffing polarons (worst energy type) , torpedoes (still weaker than all energy builds) and particles (embassy consoles are better)

    Shows how much you know about Science play.

    Firstly, thankfully, there is more than 1 way to curbstomp this game.

    The Polaron thing I don't care about.

    Majority of Science builds do not place a premium on energy weapons because prioritizing their use, i.e. high Weaps Power, conflicts with the high Aux Power needed for almost all Science heavy builds. There are 2 generic Science build styles that I would put Weapons Power as a higher priority than Aux Power.

    The Torpedo bonus is actually a nice complement of the console for Science builds. Torpedoes are often a secondary feature on Science heavy builds, i.e. secondary to the PartGen/Exotic damage abilities featured on Science Vessels. A number of Torpedoes rely on good PartGens Skill total.

    The PartGens bonus is useful of course to Exotic builds. No brainer.

    Embassy/Research Lab Science Consoles don't have to be replaced by the FE's console. The FE console is a TAC Console. Science Vessels typically load up TAC Consoles with stats that boost the Science abilities that are the heart of the build.

    He wasn't saying that it's a bad console for sci. He was explaining why it probably won't be nerfed: i.e., it doesn't affect the popular standard builds with AP beam boats, so it should be able to fly under the radar. If you're going to completely miss the point, it might be wise to avoid insulting people and talking down to them like they're idiots (at least until you're certain that you haven't missed the point).
  • johnnymo1johnnymo1 Member Posts: 697 Arc User
    I just wish it was a phaser boost so I could use it with the phaser aux canons
  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    It seems good for a science build but don't sing its praises too loudly lest the bearer of the mighty Nerf Hammer hear you and come and smite it.
    Remember the Quantum Phase Torpedo!!!
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  • semalda226semalda226 Member Posts: 1,994 Arc User
    The only thing that could be nerfed is the stats and it would be dumb to nerf them.
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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    semalda226 wrote: »
    The only thing that could be nerfed is the stats and it would be dumb to nerf them.

    Believe me many, many things in this game have been nerfed despite being praised by the players. It seems when something gets popular it is seen to be doing too well and it gets hit.
    Seen it way to many times so i'm always careful of how much praise new items get, even if they appear to be good/bad/whatever.
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  • samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    Go away if your here to whine your derailing his thread.

    Thanks for console it's wicked!
  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    I wouldn’t worry about a nerf here. It’s just a console and we got some other quiet decent ones the past FEs. It’s nice and offers variety and all but it’s not as if it will help peeps to break game with 242k+ DePz or anything.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
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    reyan01 wrote: »
    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    It seems good for a science build but don't sing its praises too loudly lest the bearer of the mighty Nerf Hammer hear you and come and smite it.
    Remember the Quantum Phase Torpedo!!!
    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    semalda226 wrote: »
    The only thing that could be nerfed is the stats and it would be dumb to nerf them.

    Believe me many, many things in this game have been nerfed despite being praised by the players. It seems when something gets popular it is seen to be doing too well and it gets hit.
    Seen it way to many times so i'm always careful of how much praise new items get, even if they appear to be good/bad/whatever.

    This - very much this.

    I'm always a little dubious about these situations. The console is great and was an immediate addition to my build, as was the Quantum Phase Torpedo.

    They are also free. Which means that the Powers That Be can nerf it into the ground without having to worry about players using "but I paid XX for it' as a counter-argument.


    ^^ Until you make it Epic, of course. That's how they get you.
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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    samt1996 wrote: »
    Go away if your here to whine your derailing his thread.

    Thanks for console it's wicked!

    I'm not derailing the thread, i'm partaking in a discussion of this console and merely pointing out that based on previous experience, praising things too much tends to bring to the attention of the devs how powerful they are, which then often has the affect of getting said item nerfed.

    It is a good console, not disputing that, i'm just careful not to throw too much praise about these days, call me a cynical old git if you will....I've just seen this all before.

    Just look here:
    arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/1207276/cryptic-thankyou-for-the-quantum-phase-torpedo/p1
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    samt1996 wrote: »
    Go away if your here to whine your derailing his thread.

    Thanks for console it's wicked!

    I'm not derailing the thread, i'm partaking in a discussion of this console and merely pointing out that based on previous experience, praising things too much tends to bring to the attention of the devs how powerful they are, which then often has the affect of getting said item nerfed.

    It is a good console, not disputing that, i'm just careful not to throw too much praise about these days, call me a cynical old git if you will....I've just seen this all before.

    Just look here:
    arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/1207276/cryptic-thankyou-for-the-quantum-phase-torpedo/p1


    ^^ Totally agreed. 'Everything you say can and will be used against you.' All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again.
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  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    it's a tac slot console only...not universal. good for certain sci vessel builds, for the rest it's sub par.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    What I said the last time with the Quantum Phase Torpedo - no good thanking goes unpunished. ;)
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    ma
    reyan01 wrote: »
    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    It seems good for a science build but don't sing its praises too loudly lest the bearer of the mighty Nerf Hammer hear you and come and smite it.
    Remember the Quantum Phase Torpedo!!!
    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    semalda226 wrote: »
    The only thing that could be nerfed is the stats and it would be dumb to nerf them.

    Believe me many, many things in this game have been nerfed despite being praised by the players. It seems when something gets popular it is seen to be doing too well and it gets hit.
    Seen it way to many times so i'm always careful of how much praise new items get, even if they appear to be good/bad/whatever.

    This - very much this.

    I'm always a little dubious about these situations. The console is great and was an immediate addition to my build, as was the Quantum Phase Torpedo.

    They are also free. Which means that the Powers That Be can nerf it into the ground without having to worry about players using "but I paid XX for it' as a counter-argument.


    ^^ Until you make it Epic, of course. That's how they get you.

    True; but that would still only be a 'single' spend. I.e: Item given for free + money spent on upgrading.
    As oposed to:
    Item paid for and additional money spent on upgrading.


    True that. :) At least you don't have to pay for the console itself.
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  • clkgtr93clkgtr93 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    Good for my mirror science vessel retrofit which uses the dominion set and beams. I also use the isokentic cannon.
  • tmassxtmassx Member Posts: 831 Arc User
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    tmassx wrote: »
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    What console would that be?! (And how long until it gets nerfed?!)

    1) Probably that one from Time and Tide episode? :)
    2) 99% no nerf, coz it buffing polarons (worst energy type) , torpedoes (still weaker than all energy builds) and particles (embassy consoles are better)

    Shows how much you know about Science play.

    Thanks. I play for science about three years.
    Remember that old good times of science cheese in pvp? Yes? I was there and it was very funny to hear nuked disabled scrambled catched confused etc. angry people complaining about sci overpoweredness.

    Now, when pvp is gone, science need more love on pve , particle manipulator, t4 terran trait and some nice AoE torpedoes are the good way. I say, this console realy not need a nerf, she is useful only in one build and not on the dps one.

    Phase torpedo was "nerfed" because it had the same problem as neutronic torpedo, insane damage loop with torpedo spread.

    So i'm glad the devs listen players call for more build diversity. Play still the same BFAW build is boring. I wonder if anything will prepare for ships with cannons, a valiant ship trait I found quite insufficient.
  • samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    THIS thread is an excellant example of why DEV'S don't come to the forums... a nice guy simply thanks them for making an awesome new toy for us science captains and a whole fleet of trolls descend on the thread like a pack of wolves.

    Good job.

    The best part is when in a few weeks time one of them makes a comment or even an entire thread whining about how they never come hang with us. I mean really...
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