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Why is Q wearing the judge outfit?
heavensrun
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This has been bugging me for awhile.
Seriously, I get that it's one of the first and last things we ever saw him wear, but in the series, that is the outfit of a judge from a 22nd century facist dictatorship that preceded the Federation. He wore it in the series because he was making a point about humanity's barbarism.
By -far-, the most common outfits he wore during all of his appearances were era-appropriate starfleet uniforms. It's kinda weird that he shows up several times a year to literally play games with us while wearing the costume of a mass-murdering regime. It's like a mall Santa showing up for Christmas in SS regalia.
(Note: Yes, I know that in Voyager, they threw several members of the continuum in that outfit, this is part of why Voyager was terrible.)
Also, when are we getting John DeLancie to come in and lend his likeness and voice to the character?
Seriously, I get that it's one of the first and last things we ever saw him wear, but in the series, that is the outfit of a judge from a 22nd century facist dictatorship that preceded the Federation. He wore it in the series because he was making a point about humanity's barbarism.
By -far-, the most common outfits he wore during all of his appearances were era-appropriate starfleet uniforms. It's kinda weird that he shows up several times a year to literally play games with us while wearing the costume of a mass-murdering regime. It's like a mall Santa showing up for Christmas in SS regalia.
(Note: Yes, I know that in Voyager, they threw several members of the continuum in that outfit, this is part of why Voyager was terrible.)
Also, when are we getting John DeLancie to come in and lend his likeness and voice to the character?
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And we might get John DeLancie and a few other actors in for the 50th Anniversary of Star Trek. But as of now... the Q in STO is Q Jr.
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
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Oh, it's worse, though. That's not even Q. It's Q's son from the Voyager series. But either Q isn't very recognizable in an ordinary starfleet uniform. The judge suit is anachronistic, but iconic.
Unlikely. He's said in interviews he's not really interested in reprising the role or having anything to do with cons and stuff.
I've also wondered why Q doesn't look like John DeLancie. Most of the other characters that are based on real actors look at least reasonably like them. I know this is usually because they have to pay royalties to use an actors likeness, Did John DeLancie shoot it down or want too much?
EDIT: Posted before reading entire thread. Q Jr is uber-lame.
As for it being Q as opposed to Q, Q or Q...I suspect it's mostly likeness issues.
Yeah, I know that was the original intent of the character, but the missions that specify that have been scrubbed from the game, and some of his flavor text gave me the impression that the writers either changed their minds or just forgot. There was a comment somewhere about Picard that seemed uncharacteristic of Q Jr to me. Could be I misread it though. Even so, the judge outfit makes no sense. It makes -less- sense for Q Jr.
I disagree. If he's going to be floating around ghost-style and sitting on giant thrones, I'm pretty sure it'd still be pretty obvious who he was from his behavior, and honestly, the Judge suit feels like lazy production to me. Not in the sense of lack of effort, (I recognize that making that was probably harder than just sticking him in a 2409 starfleet outfit would've been) but in the sense of lack of attention to detail.
Pssh. Just tell him he's playing Discord. It's the same role anyway. ;p
Or hey, if he -is- Q Jr, get the younger DeLancie on it. The devs obviously love them some obscure Voyager VAs.
if the game character Q wore one of an era-appropriate starfleet uniforms he would be less distinctive amongst the other regular NPC's in the game.
by wearing the judge outfit that is more distinctive and iconic he stands out more as something unique and special.
the same reason I chose this image when I met John DeLancie and got his autograph.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
My character Tsin'xing
Its possible his father told him stories of Picard. And I think I remember seeing a line about "Aunt Kathy", referring to Janeway.
My character Tsin'xing
They might be able to get by with an extra fancy gold leaf Starfleet uniform like Q wore a time or two but they need the costume to sell who he's supposed to be until and unless they can get the face a bit closer to John and/or Keegan deLancie.
Presumably, they could have Picard show up in an EV suit (and we've been told that kind of thing is clear for Foundry missions) but they can't show Stewart. Having an inaccurate Q in the robes is a quick shorthand for who he is without the likeness.
They might (or might not, depending on actor contracts) need to pay deLancie but they definitely need the time to get the face right regardless... and have said any face touch-ups would likely come alongside getting deLancie to sign on for voice work. If the face were more dead on, like I say, they'd probably scale back the use of the judge's robes (which I honestly think also need an art update just to give the fabric more depth and looseness).
Never ending....
although the chair is iconic in itself it is not part of the costume as such, just as a captains chair is not a part of his uniform or just as the queens throne is not a part of the queens robes.
as you can see from this picture
http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10700000/Q-Judge-q-star-trek-10759391-450-600.jpg
Q was seen wearing the robes while not being seated in the chair therefore the two things are completely separate and it is in keeping with star trek TNG the series to show him wearing this costume when not being seated in the chair.
as I said before its a no brainer to use this outfit for its iconic nature to represent this character and to make him stand out as something unique in the game.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Q's don't need to use cleaners, being all powerful whenever they need a new or different outfit they can just conjure one up from thin air.
my wife thinks she does a very similar thing with the use of my credit card.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Pretty sure it's a phone game and those make more money in a month than STO will see during it's entire life so they're not going to be able to back a dump truck full of money to his house to get him to appear.
Yeah, as I mentioned in my original post, this is part of why Voyager was terrible. The writers (or costuming people, or director, or whoever) paid absolutely zero attention to the original Q episodes where he wore that outfit, and was just like "What do Q's wear? I dunno, put them in that fancy costume in his first appearance!"
The line I'm thinking of was one of his little one-offs about "Picard and Janeway", and it seemed to imply first-hand experience with both. I dunno, it just seemed like it was written by someone who thought this was DeLancie's Q. I think the "Aunt Kathy" line was in the mission text of the missions that got ditched.
That's a shame. With the amount of VO in the game now, Q stands out as conspicuously silent. It'd be nice if they could get -something- in there.