I'll pass. I've had my "Trolls pelting me with snowballs in the face" moment often enough. That the likes of them get to run around like a pack of wild targ while other people guilty of much less get thrown out of the game is illogical.
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@rahhmi Thanks for the indirect defense. That person's attack on my preference for a moment of silence by making it out to be something it wasn't was out of line.
Drives me nuts when people try and twist words to mean something that wasn't intended.
@rahhmi Thanks for the indirect defense. That person's attack on my preference for a moment of silence by making it out to be something it wasn't was out of line.
Drives me nuts when people try and twist words to mean something that wasn't intended.
In another thread, I've had someone try twisting my words into something I don't support at all. I'm as fond of it as you are:
I am taking into consideration what happened last time people tried to gather respectfully, only to have Disco Balls popped on them. That's like playing loud party music at a funeral. QUITE A FEW people see that as disrespectful. The idea of having a designated Disco Ball instance is so that people have a CHOICE. It is disrespectful to force people into something they don't want all in the name of "getting swept up in the moment". Freedom of Choice. If we want to have Disco Balls we can. But in this instance a choice needs to be available for those who don't want to but still want to show up at Vulcan for a respectful moment or something. And not everyone believes Disco Balls are respectful.
I'm more than happy to pop on on Jm'pok or Admiral Quinn every once in a while for the lulz, but if I am going to a player gathering to pay respects to someone, I wouldn't want someone coming in and blasting their stereo.
I'd agree with the instance idea but for one flaw. You're assuming a live and let live type of thinking, instead of a troll's mentality. The idea they like is to harass and troll others just ruining it all for others. Throwing snowballs and dropping disco balls is part of who and what they are. Unfortunately they care nothing for the rest of us except to ruin anything they can ruin.
When I first read the title of this thread, I knew it was to become a fleet hate/retaliate thread. look, I don't give a TRIBBLE about any other fleet out there other than my own and i'm pretty sure most sto players feel the same. this kind of bickering doesn't matter. I play to have fun and escape what little life I have. sure there are d-heads out there, but why would they take away from your free time fun? and I have no person on my ignore list, I really don't care unless someone needs help. all the bs trolling and name calling is completely trivial. If a fleet wants to be famous, or infamous, let them talk trash, or play the innocent once they've got busted on it. its obsurd.
there, that's my rant on the whole fleet attack/retaliate thing. I have to end this by saying I have never had any problems with Dental doing their own thing. if anything they break up the monotony.
peace and long life.
How about this for a solution. If Dental wants to do Mardi Gras they should pick an instance and park themselves there, put an announcement in the General Discussion forums which instance you are in. People who don't want Mardi Gras can just avoid that instance. Vulcan is pretty big.
a solution has been found! Thank you waldotrek.
they can have an instance to give out their awesome items too. I would at least visit them even if I wasn't going to hang around.
or..
I can do better..
the liquid sillies
How about this for a solution. If Dental wants to do Mardi Gras they should pick an instance and park themselves there, put an announcement in the General Discussion forums which instance you are in. People who don't want Mardi Gras can just avoid that instance. Vulcan is pretty big.
Actually it's rather small. Or at least the portion of Vulcan that's in the game is rather small
Celebrating a guy being dead a year... kinda cold, imo.
I prefer to look at it this way,
Remembering what he gave, what he did, and who he was while he was alive.
And wow, a year already?
Yup, it's been a almost year.
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Technically, as far as characters in the trek universe know Spock died in 2387 when Hobus went ka-boom; in his failed attempt to save Romulus. So he's been dead for 23yrs in STO time.
Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
How about this for a solution. If Dental wants to do Mardi Gras they should pick an instance and park themselves there, put an announcement in the General Discussion forums which instance you are in. People who don't want Mardi Gras can just avoid that instance. Vulcan is pretty big.
How about this for a solution. Stop trying to claim people you don't like aren't celebrating a man's life correctly. If they want to let off some balloons or fireworks in his honour then stop being an oversensitive hysterical baby and move on with your life. They're not affecting you in the slightest and it has nothing to do with you. There is no approved way of celebrating Leonard Nimoy's life and there are no segregated instances just so you can feel superior. The fact trolls like you are milking his death to try and start yet another flamefest on here is disgusting and not what he died for. Grow up.
But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
How about this for a solution. If Dental wants to do Mardi Gras they should pick an instance and park themselves there, put an announcement in the General Discussion forums which instance you are in. People who don't want Mardi Gras can just avoid that instance. Vulcan is pretty big.
With the instance cap as low as it is, our whole fleet being online would take up over 20 instances, so trying to narrow it down to ONE INSTANCE would require cryptic giving Dental some type of control over who is and isn't allowed in. Consider this... do you really want ANYONE from Dental getting some type of control remotely similar to that?
So if we say "we're gonna be in instance 10" then we have to wait for the other 9 to fill up. If we have 6 people in instance 1, then Instance 2 doesn't open. See how this works? Then there's the theoretical opportunity of "Well cryptic has given us power to add/kick people to instance #69" which would only cause people to flail "why are dentals giving mod powers". In absolutely no way does this work unless you simply decide to be tolerant that you don't have the only opinion on the matter.
With the instance cap as low as it is, our whole fleet being online would take up over 20 instances, so trying to narrow it down to ONE INSTANCE would require cryptic giving Dental some type of control over who is and isn't allowed in. Consider this... do you really want ANYONE from Dental getting some type of control remotely similar to that?
Rahhmi, to be honest, I don't see the reason why fleets/group leaders aren't allowed creating private instances in the first place (instance cap still applying obviously). Wouldn't be hard to implement either, but I see Cryptic thinking this might promote less socialising (as if there's any anyway) for the rest of the players.
How about this for a solution. If Dental wants to do Mardi Gras they should pick an instance and park themselves there, put an announcement in the General Discussion forums which instance you are in. People who don't want Mardi Gras can just avoid that instance. Vulcan is pretty big.
How about this for a solution. Stop trying to claim people you don't like aren't celebrating a man's life correctly. If they want to let off some balloons or fireworks in his honour then stop being an oversensitive hysterical baby and move on with your life. They're not affecting you in the slightest and it has nothing to do with you. There is no approved way of celebrating Leonard Nimoy's life and there are no segregated instances just so you can feel superior. The fact trolls like you are milking his death to try and start yet another flamefest on here is disgusting and not what he died for. Grow up.
Sorry, but Cryptic disagrees. They already patched a restriction of the party devices near the spock statue. Also, your response to his post is no less "oversensitive" than his. You can't really call someone out by doing the exact same thing as them.
...and not what he died for
Leonard Nimoy didn't "die for" anything. He died because he was old and sick. He did not die in a war or for some "cause". If you want to say someone's behavior does not honor how Nimoy lived his life, that would be different.
There is also such a thing as being respectful of others. That is why I suggested the instance thing. IF people want the disco balls, they can go to the designated instance. If they don't they can avoid that particular instance. Then no one is FORCED into something they don't want and everyone is happy.
Want to Mardi Gras? Go to Instance 1.
Want to have a Moment of Silence? Go to Instance 2.
That sort of thing. Win/Win for everyone.
As much as I admire the spirit of what you're suggesting, I don't see it happening and quite frankly, it goes against one of the things the character of Spock stood for - Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations.
If we all can't get along for a few minutes in a video game - disco balls or not - then we're certainly forgetting one of the more profound tenets of Star Trek and the character of Spock.
Respect for Others? I am sorry, but throwing disco balls on people who just want to quietly respect Spock ends up being disrespectful and inconsiderate. IDIC never said that you are to enforce your will on others against there will, but to allow, respect and admire the differences others bring.
Leonard Nimoy didn't "die for" anything. He died because he was old and sick. He did not die in a war or for some "cause". If you want to say someone's behavior does not honor how Nimoy lived his life, that would be different.
This here is true. Trekkies get weird when it comes to Spock, first and foremost because some of them still confuse the actor and human being with the character which is always a bit scary.
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Leonard Nimoy didn't "die for" anything. He died because he was old and sick. He did not die in a war or for some "cause". If you want to say someone's behavior does not honor how Nimoy lived his life, that would be different.
This here is true. Trekkies get weird when it comes to Spock, first and foremost because some of them still confuse the actor and human being with the character which is always a bit scary.
The strange thing is, if you look at the post I was replying to you will see they were specifically talking about Nimoy the RL man, not Spock the fictional character. Which is what made those last comments about what he "died for" so strange.
There is also such a thing as being respectful of others. That is why I suggested the instance thing. IF people want the disco balls, they can go to the designated instance. If they don't they can avoid that particular instance. Then no one is FORCED into something they don't want and everyone is happy.
Want to Mardi Gras? Go to Instance 1.
Want to have a Moment of Silence? Go to Instance 2.
That sort of thing. Win/Win for everyone.
As much as I admire the spirit of what you're suggesting, I don't see it happening and quite frankly, it goes against one of the things the character of Spock stood for - Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations.
If we all can't get along for a few minutes in a video game - disco balls or not - then we're certainly forgetting one of the more profound tenets of Star Trek and the character of Spock.
Respect for Others? I am sorry, but throwing disco balls on people who just want to quietly respect Spock ends up being disrespectful and inconsiderate. IDIC never said that you are to enforce your will on others against there will, but to allow, respect and admire the differences others bring.
And yet here you are demanding others stop honouring the life of man because you don't like how they're doing it. Again, the discoballs and festive horns do nothing to you and are not about you. Accept you don't control this multiplayer game and move on with your life.
How about this for a solution. If Dental wants to do Mardi Gras they should pick an instance and park themselves there, put an announcement in the General Discussion forums which instance you are in. People who don't want Mardi Gras can just avoid that instance. Vulcan is pretty big.
How about this for a solution. Stop trying to claim people you don't like aren't celebrating a man's life correctly. If they want to let off some balloons or fireworks in his honour then stop being an oversensitive hysterical baby and move on with your life. They're not affecting you in the slightest and it has nothing to do with you. There is no approved way of celebrating Leonard Nimoy's life and there are no segregated instances just so you can feel superior. The fact trolls like you are milking his death to try and start yet another flamefest on here is disgusting and not what he died for. Grow up.
Sorry, but Cryptic disagrees. They already patched a restriction of the party devices near the spock statue. Also, your response to his post is no less "oversensitive" than his. You can't really call someone out by doing the exact same thing as them.
...and not what he died for
Leonard Nimoy didn't "die for" anything. He died because he was old and sick. He did not die in a war or for some "cause". If you want to say someone's behavior does not honor how Nimoy lived his life, that would be different.
This is the thinnest excuse for flamebait I've seen from you, champ. Fly away troll.
But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
There is also such a thing as being respectful of others. That is why I suggested the instance thing. IF people want the disco balls, they can go to the designated instance. If they don't they can avoid that particular instance. Then no one is FORCED into something they don't want and everyone is happy.
Want to Mardi Gras? Go to Instance 1.
Want to have a Moment of Silence? Go to Instance 2.
That sort of thing. Win/Win for everyone.
As much as I admire the spirit of what you're suggesting, I don't see it happening and quite frankly, it goes against one of the things the character of Spock stood for - Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations.
If we all can't get along for a few minutes in a video game - disco balls or not - then we're certainly forgetting one of the more profound tenets of Star Trek and the character of Spock.
Respect for Others? I am sorry, but throwing disco balls on people who just want to quietly respect Spock ends up being disrespectful and inconsiderate. IDIC never said that you are to enforce your will on others against there will, but to allow, respect and admire the differences others bring.
And yet here you are demanding others stop honouring the life of man because you don't like how they're doing it. Again, the discoballs and festive horns do nothing to you and are not about you. Accept you don't control this multiplayer game and move on with your life.
Where in what I wrote did I demand others to stop honoring the life of the man? I didn't. All I asked is that you be as respectful of others as you want them to be respectful of you. You don't want people to control how you honor the guy, why should you get the right to disrupt how others get to honor the guy? It's a two way street, we can all get along if you are mindful and respectful of others. I mean this for both styles of respect.
Me, I don't plan to attend because of the fact that people tend to ruin what I want to do to honor the guy. SO I choose not to put myself in the situation where I can be mistreated by others.
Respect for Others? I am sorry, but throwing disco balls on people who just want to quietly respect Spock ends up being disrespectful and inconsiderate.
Disco balls being disrespectful and inconsiderate or a bit of fun depends entirely on the individual.
IDIC never said that you are to enforce your will on others against there will, but to allow, respect and admire the differences others bring.
Disco balls aren't forcing you personally into anything, I'm sorry to say. They aren't some real life assault on you. So your avatar has to look at some bright lights and music and dance (if you don't have a nullifier), big deal.
Learn to be the better person and live and let live. Remember, others have just as much right to be there as you do.
So yes, apply a little bit of IDIC and tolerate other people.
Disco Balls: Yes it's an individual taste which is why I am saying that you should be considerate of others.
Disco Balls do affect me personally, they are appearing on my screen disrupting my view of the terrain. It makes my Avatar dance when I rather it be doing something else, thus taking control away from me. And makes me consider the person who activated the ting as being an unlikable person that I really have no need to interact with because of their total disrespect of their fellow players and their utter devotion to self pleasure that I find quite distasteful.
Just because YOU don't think it's a big deal doesn't mean others won't. And by ignoring others, you are being disrespectful to others and to the ideals of IDIC, which Spock tried to promote.
Disco balls aren't forcing you personally into anything, I'm sorry to say. They aren't some real life assault on you. So your avatar has to look at some bright lights and music and dance (if you don't have a nullifier), big deal.
To be clear, anyone claiming the disco balls are some kind of assault is being riduclous.
That said, your logic goes both ways. You say having to look at some bright lights/dance doesn't hurt anyone. Fair enough. So telling someone they *can't* do their bright lights/dance also doesn't hurt anyone. Since neither way hurts anyone, the only question is which way makes the most people happy? I'm certainly willing to respect the preference of the majority, so if the majority want to disco at the statue then that's fine by me.
The thread derailing into another discoball mess. How about we end this verbal ping-pong here; as performed by some & focus on the celebration instead? I'd prefer to not have to lock the thread, folks. Last warning.
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That's all fine and dandy. But as it was pointed out, some peeps just went there to celebrate Nimoy's long and prosperous life. Which is fine.
I myself prefer quiet contemplating but whateva, different peeps different strokes... vive la Star Trek.
No, but you can go to New Romulus.
Drives me nuts when people try and twist words to mean something that wasn't intended.
with or without fleet ?
if is memorial in First City too , i be there ......
In another thread, I've had someone try twisting my words into something I don't support at all. I'm as fond of it as you are:
I'd agree with the instance idea but for one flaw. You're assuming a live and let live type of thinking, instead of a troll's mentality. The idea they like is to harass and troll others just ruining it all for others. Throwing snowballs and dropping disco balls is part of who and what they are. Unfortunately they care nothing for the rest of us except to ruin anything they can ruin.
I prefer to look at it this way,
Remembering what he gave, what he did, and who he was while he was alive.
And wow, a year already?
there, that's my rant on the whole fleet attack/retaliate thing. I have to end this by saying I have never had any problems with Dental doing their own thing. if anything they break up the monotony.
peace and long life.
they can have an instance to give out their awesome items too. I would at least visit them even if I wasn't going to hang around.
or..
I can do better..
the liquid sillies
Actually it's rather small. Or at least the portion of Vulcan that's in the game is rather small
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Yup, it's been a almost year.
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Vlasek D. Lasor - 4.19.3580
Star Trek Online: Foundry Storyline Series
Technically, as far as characters in the trek universe know Spock died in 2387 when Hobus went ka-boom; in his failed attempt to save Romulus. So he's been dead for 23yrs in STO time.
How about this for a solution. Stop trying to claim people you don't like aren't celebrating a man's life correctly. If they want to let off some balloons or fireworks in his honour then stop being an oversensitive hysterical baby and move on with your life. They're not affecting you in the slightest and it has nothing to do with you. There is no approved way of celebrating Leonard Nimoy's life and there are no segregated instances just so you can feel superior. The fact trolls like you are milking his death to try and start yet another flamefest on here is disgusting and not what he died for. Grow up.
This is one way to remember it:
With the instance cap as low as it is, our whole fleet being online would take up over 20 instances, so trying to narrow it down to ONE INSTANCE would require cryptic giving Dental some type of control over who is and isn't allowed in. Consider this... do you really want ANYONE from Dental getting some type of control remotely similar to that?
So if we say "we're gonna be in instance 10" then we have to wait for the other 9 to fill up. If we have 6 people in instance 1, then Instance 2 doesn't open. See how this works? Then there's the theoretical opportunity of "Well cryptic has given us power to add/kick people to instance #69" which would only cause people to flail "why are dentals giving mod powers". In absolutely no way does this work unless you simply decide to be tolerant that you don't have the only opinion on the matter.
Seems P K to me. And... That Icon tho.
Rahhmi, to be honest, I don't see the reason why fleets/group leaders aren't allowed creating private instances in the first place (instance cap still applying obviously). Wouldn't be hard to implement either, but I see Cryptic thinking this might promote less socialising (as if there's any anyway) for the rest of the players.
Sorry, but Cryptic disagrees. They already patched a restriction of the party devices near the spock statue. Also, your response to his post is no less "oversensitive" than his. You can't really call someone out by doing the exact same thing as them.
Leonard Nimoy didn't "die for" anything. He died because he was old and sick. He did not die in a war or for some "cause". If you want to say someone's behavior does not honor how Nimoy lived his life, that would be different.
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Respect for Others? I am sorry, but throwing disco balls on people who just want to quietly respect Spock ends up being disrespectful and inconsiderate. IDIC never said that you are to enforce your will on others against there will, but to allow, respect and admire the differences others bring.
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This here is true. Trekkies get weird when it comes to Spock, first and foremost because some of them still confuse the actor and human being with the character which is always a bit scary.
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The strange thing is, if you look at the post I was replying to you will see they were specifically talking about Nimoy the RL man, not Spock the fictional character. Which is what made those last comments about what he "died for" so strange.
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And yet here you are demanding others stop honouring the life of man because you don't like how they're doing it. Again, the discoballs and festive horns do nothing to you and are not about you. Accept you don't control this multiplayer game and move on with your life.
This is the thinnest excuse for flamebait I've seen from you, champ. Fly away troll.
Please do not make personal attacks against other people just because you may not like what they said.
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Where in what I wrote did I demand others to stop honoring the life of the man? I didn't. All I asked is that you be as respectful of others as you want them to be respectful of you. You don't want people to control how you honor the guy, why should you get the right to disrupt how others get to honor the guy? It's a two way street, we can all get along if you are mindful and respectful of others. I mean this for both styles of respect.
Me, I don't plan to attend because of the fact that people tend to ruin what I want to do to honor the guy. SO I choose not to put myself in the situation where I can be mistreated by others.
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Disco Balls: Yes it's an individual taste which is why I am saying that you should be considerate of others.
Disco Balls do affect me personally, they are appearing on my screen disrupting my view of the terrain. It makes my Avatar dance when I rather it be doing something else, thus taking control away from me. And makes me consider the person who activated the ting as being an unlikable person that I really have no need to interact with because of their total disrespect of their fellow players and their utter devotion to self pleasure that I find quite distasteful.
Just because YOU don't think it's a big deal doesn't mean others won't. And by ignoring others, you are being disrespectful to others and to the ideals of IDIC, which Spock tried to promote.
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To be clear, anyone claiming the disco balls are some kind of assault is being riduclous.
That said, your logic goes both ways. You say having to look at some bright lights/dance doesn't hurt anyone. Fair enough. So telling someone they *can't* do their bright lights/dance also doesn't hurt anyone. Since neither way hurts anyone, the only question is which way makes the most people happy? I'm certainly willing to respect the preference of the majority, so if the majority want to disco at the statue then that's fine by me.
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