We haven't seen a series set aboard a Romulan ship during the height of the Empire, or a Klingon ship defending the Komerex Klingon, for one simple reason. The audience for any such show is Human. You'd have to alter the alien philosophies to something Humans are more comfortable with, or reduce the audience to just those few of us who are actually interested in alien ways of being.
And there's where I think Cardassians may have the advantage, though they are not as well known to the general public as most Trek races: philosophically they ARE most like us...like modern, 21st-century humans...of all of the Trek species. Their evil is very close to what we have seen in our own world. Their dissidents and rebels are very much like us too. Seriously, you could almost cast The Man in the High Castle with Cardassians and just write it for space, and you'd be good to go.
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The images of an Iskalloni shown in that link could quite easily be a Borg in a graphic novel. There may be differences, but it's clear that the Iskalloni were based upon the Borg... I doubt the writers would deny that either... Neil Gaiman, on the other hand, when accused of basing his portrayal of the Cybermen on the Borg, claimed to have never heard of them... (As if one of the generation's most popular sci-fi writers could be unaware of one of the most popular franchise's most iconic antagonists )
The Cybermen themselves predate the Borg by fully twenty years, having been introduced in October of 1966. They were well-established in the Old Doctor Who series, including such quotes as "Resistance is Useless".
The images of an Iskalloni shown in that link could quite easily be a Borg in a graphic novel. There may be differences, but it's clear that the Iskalloni were based upon the Borg... I doubt the writers would deny that either... Neil Gaiman, on the other hand, when accused of basing his portrayal of the Cybermen on the Borg, claimed to have never heard of them... (As if one of the generation's most popular sci-fi writers could be unaware of one of the most popular franchise's most iconic antagonists )
The Cybermen themselves predate the Borg by fully twenty years, having been introduced in October of 1966. They were well-established in the Old Doctor Who series, including such quotes as "Resistance is Useless".
Absolutely so. I was referring to recent work done by Neil Gaiman (I haven't seen it myself) where people accused him of lifting Borg traits for the contemporary Cybermen, and his only defence, amounted to "I've never heard of them..." I'd have had more respect had he just said 'yes', or 'maybe, but it was unintentional', certainly less disingenuous than trying to claim ignorance
The images of an Iskalloni shown in that link could quite easily be a Borg in a graphic novel. There may be differences, but it's clear that the Iskalloni were based upon the Borg... I doubt the writers would deny that either... Neil Gaiman, on the other hand, when accused of basing his portrayal of the Cybermen on the Borg, claimed to have never heard of them... (As if one of the generation's most popular sci-fi writers could be unaware of one of the most popular franchise's most iconic antagonists )
The Cybermen themselves predate the Borg by fully twenty years, having been introduced in October of 1966. They were well-established in the Old Doctor Who series, including such quotes as "Resistance is Useless".
Absolutely so. I was referring to recent work done by Neil Gaiman (I haven't seen it myself) where people accused him of lifting Borg traits for the contemporary Cybermen, and his only defence, amounted to "I've never heard of them..." I'd have had more respect had he just said 'yes', or 'maybe, but it was unintentional', certainly less disingenuous than trying to claim ignorance
Upgrading is Irrelevant, you will be Borg.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
The images of an Iskalloni shown in that link could quite easily be a Borg in a graphic novel. There may be differences, but it's clear that the Iskalloni were based upon the Borg... I doubt the writers would deny that either... Neil Gaiman, on the other hand, when accused of basing his portrayal of the Cybermen on the Borg, claimed to have never heard of them... (As if one of the generation's most popular sci-fi writers could be unaware of one of the most popular franchise's most iconic antagonists )
The Cybermen themselves predate the Borg by fully twenty years, having been introduced in October of 1966. They were well-established in the Old Doctor Who series, including such quotes as "Resistance is Useless".
Absolutely so. I was referring to recent work done by Neil Gaiman (I haven't seen it myself) where people accused him of lifting Borg traits for the contemporary Cybermen, and his only defence, amounted to "I've never heard of them..." I'd have had more respect had he just said 'yes', or 'maybe, but it was unintentional', certainly less disingenuous than trying to claim ignorance
The images of an Iskalloni shown in that link could quite easily be a Borg in a graphic novel. There may be differences, but it's clear that the Iskalloni were based upon the Borg... I doubt the writers would deny that either... Neil Gaiman, on the other hand, when accused of basing his portrayal of the Cybermen on the Borg, claimed to have never heard of them... (As if one of the generation's most popular sci-fi writers could be unaware of one of the most popular franchise's most iconic antagonists )
The Cybermen themselves predate the Borg by fully twenty years, having been introduced in October of 1966. They were well-established in the Old Doctor Who series, including such quotes as "Resistance is Useless".
Absolutely so. I was referring to recent work done by Neil Gaiman (I haven't seen it myself) where people accused him of lifting Borg traits for the contemporary Cybermen, and his only defence, amounted to "I've never heard of them..." I'd have had more respect had he just said 'yes', or 'maybe, but it was unintentional', certainly less disingenuous than trying to claim ignorance
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
Gungans make short work of the Borg. They'll do it in comedic fashion led by General Binks as he clumsily, humorously, and inadvertently destroys the Borg "invasion."
"MEESA GONNA BOMBAD YO FACE!"
The best part? After he achieves this crushing victory and ask Jar Jar how did he destroyed the invaders, he would have absolutely zero idea how he did it.
I believe the original saying was "Resistance is irrelevant".
Actually, the original and only Borg line was "We have analysed your defensive capabilities as being unable to withstand us. If you defend yourselves, you will be punished."
In "Best of Both Worlds" we had some more Borg dialogue. "Strength is irrelevant. Resistance is irrelevant. We wish to improve ourselves. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service ours.".
Afterwards the Borg degraded rapidly
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"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
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Gungans make short work of the Borg. They'll do it in comedic fashion led by General Binks as he clumsily, humorously, and inadvertently destroys the Borg "invasion."
"MEESA GONNA BOMBAD YO FACE!"
The best part? After he achieves this crushing victory and ask Jar Jar how did he destroyed the invaders, he would have absolutely zero idea how he did it.
I hate to burst your fun... but the Borg have already assimilated idiots called Pakleds. We go fast....we are strong remember? So
Jar Jar is neither nothing new or special. Once assimilated Jar Jar would lose his stupidity and his bumbling sense of humor.
Gungans make short work of the Borg. They'll do it in comedic fashion led by General Binks as he clumsily, humorously, and inadvertently destroys the Borg "invasion."
"MEESA GONNA BOMBAD YO FACE!"
The best part? After he achieves this crushing victory and ask Jar Jar how did he destroyed the invaders, he would have absolutely zero idea how he did it.
I hate to burst your fun... but the Borg have already assimilated idiots called Pakleds. We go fast....we are strong remember? So
Jar Jar is neither nothing new or special. Once assimilated Jar Jar would lose his stupidity and his bumbling sense of humor.
Pakleds do not have the Power of Comedy where TRIBBLE just randomly happens their way Not to mention they have a thing for kinetic stuff, where the Borg amazingly do not adapt to
Jar Jar would go through the Borg would be like watching a Pinball Machine. The ball is Jar Jar and everything he runs into just ends up getting rekt. You've seen The Phantom Menace. You know that is exactly how the Borg will fall!
... With the Borg adaption & assimilation drive they would spread like a wildfire for some time posing a big enough threat for everybody till dark/light force users to join forces to kick the Borg out (I seriously doubt the Borg can adapt to that) before they go back to their usual business.
One Sith will become half Borg and keep a special elite Borg-nanite enhanced commando special forces ultramarine Stormtrooper unit. But that will revealed 1000y later when he rises since it was assumed he died in the final battle.
It'd be an interesting contest - presumably we're not talking just dropping a Borg cube above Coruscant - if they get a chance to get started (and information and electronic warfare are generally more advanced in Star Trek, so presumably the Borg would get a chance to assimilate a few databases of blueprints) they'd be very, very hard to uproot, but the sheer scale of the Republic or the Empire would give an advantage - depends how long the Borg could stay legends out of the Unknown Regions.
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Hmm... perhaps a single probe with a crew of 100 Borg on a remote minor planet like Tatooine? It has trade and commerce but it doesn't have heavy space traffic.
Hmm... perhaps a single probe with a crew of 100 Borg on a remote minor planet like Tatooine? It has trade and commerce but it doesn't have heavy space traffic.
Would probably be considered 'unworthy of assimilation', based on their treatment of the Kazon
Hmm... perhaps a single probe with a crew of 100 Borg on a remote minor planet like Tatooine? It has trade and commerce but it doesn't have heavy space traffic.
Would probably be considered 'unworthy of assimilation', based on their treatment of the Kazon
That or expendable ground troops. Invading a more major location will require armies of expendable drones.
Hmm... perhaps a single probe with a crew of 100 Borg on a remote minor planet like Tatooine? It has trade and commerce but it doesn't have heavy space traffic.
Would probably be considered 'unworthy of assimilation', based on their treatment of the Kazon
That or expendable ground troops. Invading a more major location will require armies of expendable drones.
I'm not sure if the Collective would ever consider a particular drone group expendable in the way, Romulans or Klingons would (such as using Remans as canon-fodder) I mean, once someone's assimilated, that's that... True, they do consider individual drones as expendable, but I don't think they'd assimilate a particular group just to keep them as a group of expendables (or they'd've done that with the Kazon...) it suggests too much 'individuality' for the Borg hive-mind... But absolutely, everyone's a potential drone
Blasters are NOT kinetic weapons. I would classify them as Plasma based. If we use the technical manuals that describe the use of Tibana Gas as a part of how a Blaster works, then that indicates a Plasma based system. Even the "Turbolasers" would actually be considered Plasma based as they would work on similar properties, but at a MUCH larger scale.
You lose Trekkie points for being able to try to answer what "blasters" are from Star Wars. At least the idea of a "phaser" makes some sort of attempt at being scientific in nature - assumingly operating under some principle of frequency superposition. "Blaster" is a stupid name that means nothing.
You get the image that the person who came up with the idea of a phaser was actually sitting there thinking about physics and injecting some personal pseudoscience into it.
Same applies to 'Turbolasers'. Nothing more than a nasty case of 'Because it sounds cool'. Definition of Turbo: Short for turbocharger. A method of forced induction that uses exhaust gasses to turn a turbine, which in turn drives an intake pump to force more air into the engine. Sounds a bit lame when applied to a laser weapon.
So basically, Turbolaser = a laser that goes really fast. Ermmmm.....
Or a laser that simply has more power, similar to an engine has more power when using the turbo-charger? At the cost of efficiency, probably, hence why we mostly see it on big starships which can afford such things.
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"Blaster" indicates "that which blasts". In classical sci-fi, they were regarded as "atomic energy weapons", because most sci-fi authors knew little more about atomic energy than did most people at the time. In all usage of the term, blasters have been weapons that release destructive energy in short bursts. (And just how does one propose to use such a blast in order to propel a projectile? Seems to me the projectile itself would likely be consumed, if your energy blast is significantly more powerful than gunpowder.)
And the idea that the "superlaser" employed by the Death Star is in fact not an energy weapon, but simply some sort of colossal cannon, is too ludicrous to be entertained for more than a few moments.
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And there's where I think Cardassians may have the advantage, though they are not as well known to the general public as most Trek races: philosophically they ARE most like us...like modern, 21st-century humans...of all of the Trek species. Their evil is very close to what we have seen in our own world. Their dissidents and rebels are very much like us too. Seriously, you could almost cast The Man in the High Castle with Cardassians and just write it for space, and you'd be good to go.
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The Cybermen themselves predate the Borg by fully twenty years, having been introduced in October of 1966. They were well-established in the Old Doctor Who series, including such quotes as "Resistance is Useless".
Upgrading is Irrelevant, you will be Borg.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
Resistance is futile
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
(More seriously, it's supposed to be 'Futile, resistance is' rather than 'Resistance, futile is'. I don't believe I'm typing this.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
"MEESA GONNA BOMBAD YO FACE!"
The best part? After he achieves this crushing victory and ask Jar Jar how did he destroyed the invaders, he would have absolutely zero idea how he did it.
Actually, the original and only Borg line was "We have analysed your defensive capabilities as being unable to withstand us. If you defend yourselves, you will be punished."
In "Best of Both Worlds" we had some more Borg dialogue. "Strength is irrelevant. Resistance is irrelevant. We wish to improve ourselves. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service ours.".
Afterwards the Borg degraded rapidly
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I hate to burst your fun... but the Borg have already assimilated idiots called Pakleds. We go fast....we are strong remember? So
Jar Jar is neither nothing new or special. Once assimilated Jar Jar would lose his stupidity and his bumbling sense of humor.
Pakleds do not have the Power of Comedy where TRIBBLE just randomly happens their way
Jar Jar would go through the Borg would be like watching a Pinball Machine. The ball is Jar Jar and everything he runs into just ends up getting rekt. You've seen The Phantom Menace. You know that is exactly how the Borg will fall!
One Sith will become half Borg and keep a special elite Borg-nanite enhanced commando special forces ultramarine Stormtrooper unit. But that will revealed 1000y later when he rises since it was assumed he died in the final battle.
Well I found at least one....
*looks more*
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And the idea that the "superlaser" employed by the Death Star is in fact not an energy weapon, but simply some sort of colossal cannon, is too ludicrous to be entertained for more than a few moments.