I will say i would not mind seeing more 5/3 weapon layouts on larger ships, but not a full shift of all the larger ships going from a 4/4 to 5/3 weapon layouts, just a slight change on some existing models that might feel better with a more forward oriented weapon layout an afew new ships that are built around a more forward oriented weapon layout. For me the Gal-X spoke more of a ship that would be oriented more towards a forward weapon oriented layout, as that would push more towards keeping in that forward firing arc of the lance-weapon it has equipped on it. as well as to give Gal-x a slight different feel compared to the normal Gal.
To hell with you DPS worshipers. 4/4 is perfectly fine and functional.
"So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again."
-Dedication plaque of the Federation Starship U.S.S. Merkava
This, the "Nerf DHCs" thread, the "Nerf BFAW" thread. I had a bit of fun with the infomercial script regarding BFAW but still wouldn't join "Nerf! Nerf! Nerf!" chorus. But after they came after the DHCs, trying to reduce them to nothing, I'm done having fun with these types of threads. That and they have no respect for anyone else' build, nor for anyone who speaks one word that they don't agree with.
This, the "Nerf DHCs" thread, the "Nerf BFAW" thread. I had a bit of fun with the infomercial script regarding BFAW but still wouldn't join "Nerf! Nerf! Nerf!" chorus. But after they came after the DHCs, trying to reduce them to nothing, I'm done having fun with these types of threads. That and they have no respect for anyone else' build, nor for anyone who speaks one word that they don't agree with.
Hear, hear!
Now a LTS and loving it.
Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything.
This, the "Nerf DHCs" thread, the "Nerf BFAW" thread. I had a bit of fun with the infomercial script regarding BFAW but still wouldn't join "Nerf! Nerf! Nerf!" chorus. But after they came after the DHCs, trying to reduce them to nothing, I'm done having fun with these types of threads. That and they have no respect for anyone else' build, nor for anyone who speaks one word that they don't agree with.
Well to be fair, my thread wasn't "NERF DHCS!" It was more aimed "lets get something cool for cannons or give them a leg up to compete equally with beams".
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This, the "Nerf DHCs" thread, the "Nerf BFAW" thread. I had a bit of fun with the infomercial script regarding BFAW but still wouldn't join "Nerf! Nerf! Nerf!" chorus. But after they came after the DHCs, trying to reduce them to nothing, I'm done having fun with these types of threads. That and they have no respect for anyone else' build, nor for anyone who speaks one word that they don't agree with.
Well to be fair, my thread wasn't "NERF DHCS!" It was more aimed "lets get something cool for cannons or give them a leg up to compete equally with beams".
Now you want to be fair? After the $#it I got from you from your last few responses? How decent of you. Nice try.
If I can be fair, I still think boosting the arc of the DCs is a good idea. I just don't think it's right to leave DHCs without a boost of their own, (not necessarily arc, I prefer dmg) and certainly the idea of trying to take DHCs away from escorts is blasphemously wrong.
This, the "Nerf DHCs" thread, the "Nerf BFAW" thread. I had a bit of fun with the infomercial script regarding BFAW but still wouldn't join "Nerf! Nerf! Nerf!" chorus. But after they came after the DHCs, trying to reduce them to nothing, I'm done having fun with these types of threads. That and they have no respect for anyone else' build, nor for anyone who speaks one word that they don't agree with.
Well to be fair, my thread wasn't "NERF DHCS!" It was more aimed "lets get something cool for cannons or give them a leg up to compete equally with beams".
Now you want to be fair? After the $#it I got from you from your last few responses? How decent of you. Nice try.
Well when you came in and went hostile, don't be shock you get hostility back.
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DHC's only in the most useless ships to put them on? Trying to take weapons away from someone's build is sorely unappreciated.
You didn't comprehend and or understand. Not surprising. You COMPLETELY missed the spot where I said make DCs and buff them up to where DHCs are now.
Can you read, or are you just blind and venting your spleen?
As you can see your "You started it" defense falls through. Feel free to flame some more and consider yourself victorious, but I'm done.
You came in, basically didn't read, and just passed judgement, and don't think that's hostile? That's rich.
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Guys guys, loose the flamethrowers, this isn't supposed to be a thread for that, this is supposed to be a thread where we're presented the sensible reasons why all 4/4 ships should be switched to 5/3, though to be frank I'm still waiting for those.
.... and something tells me I might grow old before getting them.
I can't say I support changing all the 4/4s into 5/3s but I do want a few more new ships with the 5/3 weapons. I do enjoy firing forward instead of broadside and would most gladly welcome more cruisers that are built that way. They'd also need a Mogh class turn rate too. A warbird comparable to the Arbiter and Mogh would be much preferred. The Morrigu, as much fun as I have with it, despite being grouped in with the battlecruisers is not.
Yeah i actually think that each ship class should have both a forward-based an broadside-based weapon layout, but that each class has more of a push in one direction or another, such as that escorts/raiders are more forward based while cruisers are more broadside based, while than science are kinda more equal in distribution of weapon layouts. But I would say that we could also use either some buffs to turrets, or the addition of dual an dual heavy turrets, to make using a cannon build on less forward-focused weapon layout less gimped. I mean you could keep the dual turrets as escort/raider restricted an then having the much heavier an power intensive dual heavy turrets as battle-cruiser/dreadnought/full-carrier restricted. Restrictions to me on weapons is nice as it makes it that having higher damage variants available does not invalidate the lower damage version completely.
Might sound weird but i would not mind seeing some more aft focused weapon layout, which the tempest patrol escort kinda would fit as you have that fused rear-mounted dual cannon on it, kinda would love to see the tier six (called the hurricane) get two fused-weapon slots that you can mount the tempest dual-heavy cannon in, alongside a new hurricane rear-mounted quad torpedo launcher that is slot-able in the fused slots of the tempest/hurricane models. This would give you a ship that has a more rear/aft-focused weapon layout that in ways pushes a bomber/strafing style of piloting, add in a trait that gives a stacking buff to your forward-slotted weapons while your aft-weapons are the only weapons attacking your primary target an you have a ship that pushes even more a different style of play.
lets see, just off the top of my head, a 4x4 can have 7x coverage for 270 degrees, 8 for about 210 degrees and if they get behind you, 4 weapons for 60 degrees...personally, I prefer a torpedo in that last aft slot, since TS3 is a nice little deterrent
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-Dedication plaque of the Federation Starship U.S.S. Merkava
This, the "Nerf DHCs" thread, the "Nerf BFAW" thread. I had a bit of fun with the infomercial script regarding BFAW but still wouldn't join "Nerf! Nerf! Nerf!" chorus. But after they came after the DHCs, trying to reduce them to nothing, I'm done having fun with these types of threads. That and they have no respect for anyone else' build, nor for anyone who speaks one word that they don't agree with.
Hear, hear!
Well to be fair, my thread wasn't "NERF DHCS!" It was more aimed "lets get something cool for cannons or give them a leg up to compete equally with beams".
Star Trek Battles member. Want to roll with a good group of people regardless of fleets and not have to worry about DPS while doing STFs? Come join the channel and join in the fun!
http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1145998/star-trek-battles-channel-got-canon/p1
Now you want to be fair? After the $#it I got from you from your last few responses? How decent of you. Nice try.
If I can be fair, I still think boosting the arc of the DCs is a good idea. I just don't think it's right to leave DHCs without a boost of their own, (not necessarily arc, I prefer dmg) and certainly the idea of trying to take DHCs away from escorts is blasphemously wrong.
Well when you came in and went hostile, don't be shock you get hostility back.
Star Trek Battles member. Want to roll with a good group of people regardless of fleets and not have to worry about DPS while doing STFs? Come join the channel and join in the fun!
http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1145998/star-trek-battles-channel-got-canon/p1
As you can see your "You started it" defense falls through. Feel free to flame some more and consider yourself victorious, but I'm done.
You came in, basically didn't read, and just passed judgement, and don't think that's hostile? That's rich.
Star Trek Battles member. Want to roll with a good group of people regardless of fleets and not have to worry about DPS while doing STFs? Come join the channel and join in the fun!
http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1145998/star-trek-battles-channel-got-canon/p1
.... and something tells me I might grow old before getting them.
Might sound weird but i would not mind seeing some more aft focused weapon layout, which the tempest patrol escort kinda would fit as you have that fused rear-mounted dual cannon on it, kinda would love to see the tier six (called the hurricane) get two fused-weapon slots that you can mount the tempest dual-heavy cannon in, alongside a new hurricane rear-mounted quad torpedo launcher that is slot-able in the fused slots of the tempest/hurricane models. This would give you a ship that has a more rear/aft-focused weapon layout that in ways pushes a bomber/strafing style of piloting, add in a trait that gives a stacking buff to your forward-slotted weapons while your aft-weapons are the only weapons attacking your primary target an you have a ship that pushes even more a different style of play.
clearly OP wants all weapons to have 360 coverage