What's really silly is thinking that dividing the galaxy into four equal parts is appropriate.
We divide planets into hemispheres, why not galaxies into quadrants?
Galaxies are not round balls. Well, some are, but not ours.
in fact this makes perfect sense, as with the hemispheres of earth astronomers divided the night sky with the galactic coordinate system which places the Sun as the pole of the mapping system (the place where the 4 quadrants meet) with the 4 quadrants spreading out from there which is better for our current point of view.
once we move out into space beyond the far reaches of our solar system our point of view changes and we would find it more sensible to make the galactic centre the centre of the galaxy but with our sun dividing the alpha and beta sectors as it is in star trek.
for star trek the series this works fine but in game terms it makes sense to have earth in only one quadrant and as has been explained as most of the play takes place in the beta quadrant especially early in the characters development it make more sense to place it there even though you can still imagine that the dividing line between the 2 quadrants is where our sun is with just that the entry point is in the beta quadrant.
as I have said before you sometimes need to use a little imagination in any MMO.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Why in STO is now all Beta Quadrant? Voyager strived to get back to the Alpha, the Dominon were trying to destroy the, you guessed it, Alpha. So, why in the game, are every species from the "Alpha" Quadrant instead in the Beta? I always thought it was funny (and annoying for navigating) that the Sol system was on the edge and I know that Quadrants are 100,000 light years wide, so the whole Dominion War only used a tiny part of the Quadrant, but I just don't get the blurred lines.
Noticed that too..and in STO, SOL system and Earth are in the Beta quadrant. What happens when you hire high school only graduates to your development team lol.
Noticed that too..and in STO, SOL system and Earth are in the Beta quadrant. What happens when you hire high school only graduates to your development team lol.
Because you learn about Trek astronomy at college? Because there are no Alpha and Beta quadrants in real life science.
It's pretty clear the source material (and most other Star Trek aftermarket map making) is incorrect.
It seems the people who were behind the Star Trek Star Charts book were so caught up in the details (trying to coincide real star systems with imaginary ones from writers, etc.) they completely missed the SPIRIT of what was portrayed on-screen (Earth, Klingons, Romulans, in the Alpha Quadrant, etc). Just take a look at Nimbus III for one example, it's pretty clear from what is shown on-screen that it is supposed to be located at the nexus of the Federation, Klingon, and Romulan borders. Where is it shown on the Star Charts map? About as far away from Klingon space as you can get.
If they can't get something as easy as this right, it's no wonder they messed up the entire Quardrant designation too.
Unfortunately, this is all Cryptic has to go by when making our game maps.
I don't think people give Geoffrey Mandel enough credit. After 5 shows, and 11 movies, with a hundred different writers, directors, etc., all of whom just made up planets as they needed to, and rarely if ever did any research to support their creation, let alone mention WHERE a given planet was located, it's an astounding feat that Mandel was able to reconcile all of that into anything remotely comprehensible.
There may be a few things that are off, but that's because most of those things either had nothing specifying where they were, or worse, had multiple things specifying that they were in different places.
Nimbus gets brought up a lot, and I'll repeat what I've said numerous times already. Nimbus, the "Planet of Galactic Peace" was a joint venture between the Feds, Roms and Klinks. It was never stated, nor shown, where Nimbus was. All we heard was "in the Neutral Zone," which is a pretty broad swath of space. (Nevermind WHICH Neutral Zone.) You saw on screen that it was a wretched hive of scum and villainy. No faction took the initiative seriously, and all sent the worst of their citizenry to live there. Given that, would it be surprising at all that anyone would care that it wasn't adjoining their territory?
And yet, with the revamp of the maps and no sector changes, I think it makes it LESS convenient to have it right on the edge. I keep getting the pop-up, asking if I want to go into the DS9 sector. And if the ENTIRE Galaxy were only 100,00-light years across, then why was Voyager deep in the Delta and nowhere near Earth? I'd say 100,00 each QUADRANT and unless to you have Quantum Slipstream, travelling sector space is monotonous as the best of times, so and again, why not just put everything in the centre of the Alpha Quadrant and stop all of this nonsense with the Beta?
black hole in the center of the galaxy ???? i thought that kirk proved that GOD was at the center of the galaxy......
also star trek inconsistencies are inconsist
The Inconsistiest!
And if the center of the Galaxy is a Black Hole, and God is at the center of the Galaxy, then God must be Black Hole.
Oh my blackhole. You sir, should be the Space Pope.
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Hast thou not felt ashamed of thy words and deeds
Hast thou not lacked vigor
Hast thou exerted all possible efforts
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space might be vast but its far from empty, even empty space is full of invisible radiation.
True. Still, if two galaxies collide, for most of the species living in solar systems outside of the areas where cores meet not much would change. Sure, you'll get a beautiful and bright night sky the first million years, but most likely, your solar system will just get thrown out at ludicrous speed but stay consistent within itself. Because there are light years between star systems which in turn would mean that passing stars do not get enough gravitational pull on each other's planets. At best some small pieces in the outer clouds may get removed (which may be the only way to finally remove the "is Pluto a planet?" debate), but even that is unlikely. Planets in the habitable area will almost certainly not see a difference except for the changing night sky, and maybe the sun would start being a lonely traveller if after that it gets completely thrown out of the galaxies' combined pull. Either way, radiation levels will only become critical if getting too close to a cluster of stars, e. g. the other galaxy's core.
A shame that we won't be around to see it though, since the sun will blow out at about that very time, but already before that all possibility of life on Earth would be gone. Still, there are uncertainties of a couple of hundred million years, so that may indeed not be the case, let's keep our fingers crossed.
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It was never stated, nor shown, where Nimbus was. All we heard was "in the Neutral Zone," which is a pretty broad swath of space. (Nevermind WHICH Neutral Zone.)
I figured it was the Klingon Neutral Zone on account of the Romulan one never being mentioned in the movies, plus McCoy being worried about running into Klingons which implies its not that far from their territory.
space might be vast but its far from empty, even empty space is full of invisible radiation.
True. Still, if two galaxies collide, for most of the species living in solar systems outside of the areas where cores meet not much would change. Sure, you'll get a beautiful and bright night sky the first million years, but most likely, your solar system will just get thrown out at ludicrous speed but stay consistent within itself. Because there are light years between star systems which in turn would mean that passing stars do not get enough gravitational pull on each other's planets. At best some small pieces in the outer clouds may get removed (which may be the only way to finally remove the "is Pluto a planet?" debate), but even that is unlikely. Planets in the habitable area will almost certainly not see a difference except for the changing night sky, and maybe the sun would start being a lonely traveller if after that it gets completely thrown out of the galaxies' combined pull. Either way, radiation levels will only become critical if getting too close to a cluster of stars, e. g. the other galaxy's core.
A shame that we won't be around to see it though, since the sun will blow out at about that very time, but already before that all possibility of life on Earth would be gone. Still, there are uncertainties of a couple of hundred million years, so that may indeed not be the case, let's keep our fingers crossed.
Which galaxy? Milky Way is already in the process of colliding with several dwarf galaxies, one of them might be closer than we know....
Usually we're talking about the collision with the Andromeda galaxy, at least that's what I assumed. I think you are referring to the Canis Major dwarf galaxy here, which is by far the closest. It's also way smaller than the Milky Way, so it is more probably going to be an absorption than a real collision - unless it's not headed our way, which we don't really know yet. But yes, CM dwarf and Sagittarius Dwarf are probably the only ones which could cause at least some disruption, other galaxies in our vicinity are either too small or (in case of the Magellanic Clouds) not headed our way. All this is of course possibly changing as our observation gets better.
When I say "absorption" I mean: Milky Way as a whole will like remain mostly unchanged. That does not mean that there won't be local changes of (from the human scale) immense effects, but from the outside the Galaxy will grow a little and that's it. For Sol it's most likely an non event either way, but of course we can only make (very) educated guesses. Give us a million years or two of observation and we will know more.
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Actually it's believed that the Milky has already collided with several. Like Omega Centauri. It's possible such an object could be moving towards us right now....
Fun fact: Canis Major is closer to Earth than Earth is to the galactic core.
space might be vast but its far from empty, even empty space is full of invisible radiation.
True. Still, if two galaxies collide, for most of the species living in solar systems outside of the areas where cores meet not much would change. Sure, you'll get a beautiful and bright night sky the first million years, but most likely, your solar system will just get thrown out at ludicrous speed but stay consistent within itself. Because there are light years between star systems which in turn would mean that passing stars do not get enough gravitational pull on each other's planets. At best some small pieces in the outer clouds may get removed (which may be the only way to finally remove the "is Pluto a planet?" debate), but even that is unlikely. Planets in the habitable area will almost certainly not see a difference except for the changing night sky, and maybe the sun would start being a lonely traveller if after that it gets completely thrown out of the galaxies' combined pull. Either way, radiation levels will only become critical if getting too close to a cluster of stars, e. g. the other galaxy's core.
A shame that we won't be around to see it though, since the sun will blow out at about that very time, but already before that all possibility of life on Earth would be gone. Still, there are uncertainties of a couple of hundred million years, so that may indeed not be the case, let's keep our fingers crossed.
I can see your a glass is half full kind of person.
having said that according to scientists mankind as we know it wont be around to see it anyway, as the collision is said to happen in about Four billion years, by that time the sun will have grown bright enough to roast Earth’s surface.
the Canis Major dwarf galaxy is merging with our galaxy at this very moment but is too small to cause much disruption the one that could cause more upheaval is Andromeda but even at the 250,000 miles per hour speed we are approaching each other it will still take around Four billion years for collision to take place.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
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I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
if we're ascended, we can do something about it. If we're extinct, meh
But would we? If we don't need it anymore, why interfere?
Of course, what is ascended anyway? It's a bit the sci-fi version of going to heaven for entire species rathern than individuals, I suppose... So more of a fantasy.
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space might be vast but its far from empty, even empty space is full of invisible radiation.
True. Still, if two galaxies collide, for most of the species living in solar systems outside of the areas where cores meet not much would change. Sure, you'll get a beautiful and bright night sky the first million years, but most likely, your solar system will just get thrown out at ludicrous speed but stay consistent within itself. Because there are light years between star systems which in turn would mean that passing stars do not get enough gravitational pull on each other's planets. At best some small pieces in the outer clouds may get removed (which may be the only way to finally remove the "is Pluto a planet?" debate), but even that is unlikely. Planets in the habitable area will almost certainly not see a difference except for the changing night sky, and maybe the sun would start being a lonely traveller if after that it gets completely thrown out of the galaxies' combined pull. Either way, radiation levels will only become critical if getting too close to a cluster of stars, e. g. the other galaxy's core.
A shame that we won't be around to see it though, since the sun will blow out at about that very time, but already before that all possibility of life on Earth would be gone. Still, there are uncertainties of a couple of hundred million years, so that may indeed not be the case, let's keep our fingers crossed.
I can see your a glass is half full kind of person.
having said that according to scientists mankind as we know it wont be around to see it anyway, as the collision is said to happen in about Four billion years, by that time the sun will have grown bright enough to roast Earth’s surface.
the Canis Major dwarf galaxy is merging with our galaxy at this very moment but is too small to cause much disruption the one that could cause more upheaval is Andromeda but even at the 250,000 miles per hour speed we are approaching each other it will still take around Four billion years for collision to take place.
A more immediate concern is in whether we've managed to correctly identify all the dwarf galaxies and galaxy remnants in the region. Maybe one is moving towards us right now?
space might be vast but its far from empty, even empty space is full of invisible radiation.
True. Still, if two galaxies collide, for most of the species living in solar systems outside of the areas where cores meet not much would change. Sure, you'll get a beautiful and bright night sky the first million years, but most likely, your solar system will just get thrown out at ludicrous speed but stay consistent within itself. Because there are light years between star systems which in turn would mean that passing stars do not get enough gravitational pull on each other's planets. At best some small pieces in the outer clouds may get removed (which may be the only way to finally remove the "is Pluto a planet?" debate), but even that is unlikely. Planets in the habitable area will almost certainly not see a difference except for the changing night sky, and maybe the sun would start being a lonely traveller if after that it gets completely thrown out of the galaxies' combined pull. Either way, radiation levels will only become critical if getting too close to a cluster of stars, e. g. the other galaxy's core.
A shame that we won't be around to see it though, since the sun will blow out at about that very time, but already before that all possibility of life on Earth would be gone. Still, there are uncertainties of a couple of hundred million years, so that may indeed not be the case, let's keep our fingers crossed.
I can see your a glass is half full kind of person.
having said that according to scientists mankind as we know it wont be around to see it anyway, as the collision is said to happen in about Four billion years, by that time the sun will have grown bright enough to roast Earth’s surface.
the Canis Major dwarf galaxy is merging with our galaxy at this very moment but is too small to cause much disruption the one that could cause more upheaval is Andromeda but even at the 250,000 miles per hour speed we are approaching each other it will still take around Four billion years for collision to take place.
A more immediate concern is in whether we've managed to correctly identify all the dwarf galaxies and galaxy remnants in the region. Maybe one is moving towards us right now?
Is it really a concern? In the sense of "hey, interesting, there is stuff we've missed", it might be a concern, but not in the "OMG, we're all going to die" sense...
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space might be vast but its far from empty, even empty space is full of invisible radiation.
True. Still, if two galaxies collide, for most of the species living in solar systems outside of the areas where cores meet not much would change. Sure, you'll get a beautiful and bright night sky the first million years, but most likely, your solar system will just get thrown out at ludicrous speed but stay consistent within itself. Because there are light years between star systems which in turn would mean that passing stars do not get enough gravitational pull on each other's planets. At best some small pieces in the outer clouds may get removed (which may be the only way to finally remove the "is Pluto a planet?" debate), but even that is unlikely. Planets in the habitable area will almost certainly not see a difference except for the changing night sky, and maybe the sun would start being a lonely traveller if after that it gets completely thrown out of the galaxies' combined pull. Either way, radiation levels will only become critical if getting too close to a cluster of stars, e. g. the other galaxy's core.
A shame that we won't be around to see it though, since the sun will blow out at about that very time, but already before that all possibility of life on Earth would be gone. Still, there are uncertainties of a couple of hundred million years, so that may indeed not be the case, let's keep our fingers crossed.
I can see your a glass is half full kind of person.
having said that according to scientists mankind as we know it wont be around to see it anyway, as the collision is said to happen in about Four billion years, by that time the sun will have grown bright enough to roast Earth’s surface.
the Canis Major dwarf galaxy is merging with our galaxy at this very moment but is too small to cause much disruption the one that could cause more upheaval is Andromeda but even at the 250,000 miles per hour speed we are approaching each other it will still take around Four billion years for collision to take place.
A more immediate concern is in whether we've managed to correctly identify all the dwarf galaxies and galaxy remnants in the region. Maybe one is moving towards us right now?
Is it really a concern? In the sense of "hey, interesting, there is stuff we've missed", it might be a concern, but not in the "OMG, we're all going to die" sense...
Well.... Omega Centauri is believed to be a remnant of a dwarf galaxy, it's a pretty big stellar cluster. If an object like that was moving in our direction.
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space might be vast but its far from empty, even empty space is full of invisible radiation.
True. Still, if two galaxies collide, for most of the species living in solar systems outside of the areas where cores meet not much would change. Sure, you'll get a beautiful and bright night sky the first million years, but most likely, your solar system will just get thrown out at ludicrous speed but stay consistent within itself. Because there are light years between star systems which in turn would mean that passing stars do not get enough gravitational pull on each other's planets. At best some small pieces in the outer clouds may get removed (which may be the only way to finally remove the "is Pluto a planet?" debate), but even that is unlikely. Planets in the habitable area will almost certainly not see a difference except for the changing night sky, and maybe the sun would start being a lonely traveller if after that it gets completely thrown out of the galaxies' combined pull. Either way, radiation levels will only become critical if getting too close to a cluster of stars, e. g. the other galaxy's core.
A shame that we won't be around to see it though, since the sun will blow out at about that very time, but already before that all possibility of life on Earth would be gone. Still, there are uncertainties of a couple of hundred million years, so that may indeed not be the case, let's keep our fingers crossed.
I can see your a glass is half full kind of person.
having said that according to scientists mankind as we know it wont be around to see it anyway, as the collision is said to happen in about Four billion years, by that time the sun will have grown bright enough to roast Earth’s surface.
the Canis Major dwarf galaxy is merging with our galaxy at this very moment but is too small to cause much disruption the one that could cause more upheaval is Andromeda but even at the 250,000 miles per hour speed we are approaching each other it will still take around Four billion years for collision to take place.
A more immediate concern is in whether we've managed to correctly identify all the dwarf galaxies and galaxy remnants in the region. Maybe one is moving towards us right now?
Is it really a concern? In the sense of "hey, interesting, there is stuff we've missed", it might be a concern, but not in the "OMG, we're all going to die" sense...
Well.... Omega Centauri is believed to be a remnant of a dwarf galaxy, it's a pretty big stellar cluster. If an object like that was moving in our direction.
If an object like that was moving in our direction, we wouldn't know about it for about a jillion years. Light and gravity move at the same finite speed, and matter moves way slower.
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Disney should buy the Trek franchise for several reasons..
one wed get at least 3 new movies in the span of 3 years, we would also have at least 1 live action series and 1 cartoon series already going,
and the big reason, so they can say what is and isn't canon and fix any glaring issues trek continuity had, like all of it.
Where did Voyager go to track the Maquis Vessel - The Badlands
Where are The Badlands - The Alpha Quadrant
Where was Voyager when it got pulled into the Delta Quadrant - in the Badlands in the Alpha Quadrant
If Voyager returned from where it left it would be in what Quadrant - Yes, that's right the Alpha Quadrant
As succinct and logical as this point is, I'm ashamed to say, I never thought of it. I always kind of wondered why Voyager was so obsessed with the "Alpha Quadrant".
My explaination was that Earth- being on the border of Alpha and Beta- served as a finish line. So that finish line would technically be right at the border of the Alpha quadrant. Therefore, the Voyager's goal was to get to- just barely to- the Alpha quadrant.
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in fact this makes perfect sense, as with the hemispheres of earth astronomers divided the night sky with the galactic coordinate system which places the Sun as the pole of the mapping system (the place where the 4 quadrants meet) with the 4 quadrants spreading out from there which is better for our current point of view.
once we move out into space beyond the far reaches of our solar system our point of view changes and we would find it more sensible to make the galactic centre the centre of the galaxy but with our sun dividing the alpha and beta sectors as it is in star trek.
for star trek the series this works fine but in game terms it makes sense to have earth in only one quadrant and as has been explained as most of the play takes place in the beta quadrant especially early in the characters development it make more sense to place it there even though you can still imagine that the dividing line between the 2 quadrants is where our sun is with just that the entry point is in the beta quadrant.
as I have said before you sometimes need to use a little imagination in any MMO.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Space is vast! and empty!
space might be vast but its far from empty, even empty space is full of invisible radiation.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Individual sectors are 20LY across
ORLY?
Actually, there are. But we're self centered, so Sol is the center, and we mark quadrants off the vector from Sol to the galactic core. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/Galactic_longitude.JPG
I don't think people give Geoffrey Mandel enough credit. After 5 shows, and 11 movies, with a hundred different writers, directors, etc., all of whom just made up planets as they needed to, and rarely if ever did any research to support their creation, let alone mention WHERE a given planet was located, it's an astounding feat that Mandel was able to reconcile all of that into anything remotely comprehensible.
There may be a few things that are off, but that's because most of those things either had nothing specifying where they were, or worse, had multiple things specifying that they were in different places.
Nimbus gets brought up a lot, and I'll repeat what I've said numerous times already. Nimbus, the "Planet of Galactic Peace" was a joint venture between the Feds, Roms and Klinks. It was never stated, nor shown, where Nimbus was. All we heard was "in the Neutral Zone," which is a pretty broad swath of space. (Nevermind WHICH Neutral Zone.) You saw on screen that it was a wretched hive of scum and villainy. No faction took the initiative seriously, and all sent the worst of their citizenry to live there. Given that, would it be surprising at all that anyone would care that it wasn't adjoining their territory?
Um. . . .
The Inconsistiest!
And if the center of the Galaxy is a Black Hole, and God is at the center of the Galaxy, then God must be Black Hole.
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Hast thou not lacked vigor
Hast thou exerted all possible efforts
Hast thou not become slothful
True. Still, if two galaxies collide, for most of the species living in solar systems outside of the areas where cores meet not much would change. Sure, you'll get a beautiful and bright night sky the first million years, but most likely, your solar system will just get thrown out at ludicrous speed but stay consistent within itself. Because there are light years between star systems which in turn would mean that passing stars do not get enough gravitational pull on each other's planets. At best some small pieces in the outer clouds may get removed (which may be the only way to finally remove the "is Pluto a planet?" debate), but even that is unlikely. Planets in the habitable area will almost certainly not see a difference except for the changing night sky, and maybe the sun would start being a lonely traveller if after that it gets completely thrown out of the galaxies' combined pull. Either way, radiation levels will only become critical if getting too close to a cluster of stars, e. g. the other galaxy's core.
A shame that we won't be around to see it though, since the sun will blow out at about that very time, but already before that all possibility of life on Earth would be gone. Still, there are uncertainties of a couple of hundred million years, so that may indeed not be the case, let's keep our fingers crossed.
I figured it was the Klingon Neutral Zone on account of the Romulan one never being mentioned in the movies, plus McCoy being worried about running into Klingons which implies its not that far from their territory.
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When I say "absorption" I mean: Milky Way as a whole will like remain mostly unchanged. That does not mean that there won't be local changes of (from the human scale) immense effects, but from the outside the Galaxy will grow a little and that's it. For Sol it's most likely an non event either way, but of course we can only make (very) educated guesses. Give us a million years or two of observation and we will know more.
Fun fact: Canis Major is closer to Earth than Earth is to the galactic core.
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I can see your a glass is half full kind of person.
having said that according to scientists mankind as we know it wont be around to see it anyway, as the collision is said to happen in about Four billion years, by that time the sun will have grown bright enough to roast Earth’s surface.
the Canis Major dwarf galaxy is merging with our galaxy at this very moment but is too small to cause much disruption the one that could cause more upheaval is Andromeda but even at the 250,000 miles per hour speed we are approaching each other it will still take around Four billion years for collision to take place.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
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"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Of course, what is ascended anyway? It's a bit the sci-fi version of going to heaven for entire species rathern than individuals, I suppose... So more of a fantasy.
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Is it really a concern? In the sense of "hey, interesting, there is stuff we've missed", it might be a concern, but not in the "OMG, we're all going to die" sense...
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one wed get at least 3 new movies in the span of 3 years, we would also have at least 1 live action series and 1 cartoon series already going,
and the big reason, so they can say what is and isn't canon and fix any glaring issues trek continuity had, like all of it.
As succinct and logical as this point is, I'm ashamed to say, I never thought of it. I always kind of wondered why Voyager was so obsessed with the "Alpha Quadrant".
My explaination was that Earth- being on the border of Alpha and Beta- served as a finish line. So that finish line would technically be right at the border of the Alpha quadrant. Therefore, the Voyager's goal was to get to- just barely to- the Alpha quadrant.