Why do people constantly forget the existence of the DSDs? Sure they suck balls as destroyers but leave em in science mode and they're solid in that role. No they wont win 'epic science ship of the decade' but they're solid.
Why do people constantly forget the existence of the DSDs? Sure they suck balls as destroyers but leave em in science mode and they're solid in that role. No they wont win 'epic science ship of the decade' but they're solid.
They were solid a year ago. Its total trash compared to the anniversary ship which is total trash compared to the paradox lobi ship. I have a DSD and loved it but this is like telling all the tac captains to go buy an arkif (imagine nothing better existed) and compare it to the balthim raider....
Why do people constantly forget the existence of the DSDs? Sure they suck balls as destroyers but leave em in science mode and they're solid in that role. No they wont win 'epic science ship of the decade' but they're solid.
They were solid a year ago. Its total trash compared to the anniversary ship which is total trash compared to the paradox lobi ship. I have a DSD and loved it but this is like telling all the tac captains to go buy an arkif (imagine nothing better existed) and compare it to the balthim raider....
*flies an Ar'kif and has no idea what you're complaining about*
Lockbox ships will always be that extra edge better, as are event ships often. There's standard faction ships at the bottom, then there's faction fleet grade ships that are better, then event and then lockbox. That's nothing new. I don't agree with it, I think we should be encouraged to fly our faction's ships over other options, but it's nothing new.
That said, faction ships are plenty viable at the end-game. DSDs and the Ar'kif included. You just need to compensate for their weaknesses, and maximize their strengths - but that's the same with any ship.
Why do people constantly forget the existence of the DSDs? Sure they suck balls as destroyers but leave em in science mode and they're solid in that role. No they wont win 'epic science ship of the decade' but they're solid.
They were solid a year ago. Its total trash compared to the anniversary ship which is total trash compared to the paradox lobi ship. I have a DSD and loved it but this is like telling all the tac captains to go buy an arkif (imagine nothing better existed) and compare it to the balthim raider....
*flies an Ar'kif and has no idea what you're complaining about*
Lockbox ships will always be that extra edge better, as are event ships often. There's standard faction ships at the bottom, then there's faction fleet grade ships that are better, then event and then lockbox. That's nothing new. I don't agree with it, I think we should be encouraged to fly our faction's ships over other options, but it's nothing new.
That said, faction ships are plenty viable at the end-game. DSDs and the Ar'kif included. You just need to compensate for their weaknesses, and maximize their strengths - but that's the same with any ship.
lightning done struck the sh*t house... I 100% agree with chipg7
Why do people constantly forget the existence of the DSDs? Sure they suck balls as destroyers but leave em in science mode and they're solid in that role. No they wont win 'epic science ship of the decade' but they're solid.
They were solid a year ago. Its total trash compared to the anniversary ship which is total trash compared to the paradox lobi ship. I have a DSD and loved it but this is like telling all the tac captains to go buy an arkif (imagine nothing better existed) and compare it to the balthim raider....
*flies an Ar'kif and has no idea what you're complaining about*
Lockbox ships will always be that extra edge better, as are event ships often. There's standard faction ships at the bottom, then there's faction fleet grade ships that are better, then event and then lockbox. That's nothing new. I don't agree with it, I think we should be encouraged to fly our faction's ships over other options, but it's nothing new.
That said, faction ships are plenty viable at the end-game. DSDs and the Ar'kif included. You just need to compensate for their weaknesses, and maximize their strengths - but that's the same with any ship.
lightning done struck the sh*t house... I 100% agree with chipg7
I thought something smelled like burning... ahem These things do tend to happen.
well of course they are viable. Its a scale thing. The t4 mirror BOP can beat anything in the game. The balthim is several orders of magnitude better.
Try it. Load up that awesome endgame destroying dyson and drop a TBR on a group. Now do the same in a modern sci ship with OSS and turbulence on the targets.
I support a new T6 science ship for romulan faction and please not an Ha'non or some big monstrosity like that. My sci reman always flew T'Varo from t5 and now T6 for the flexibility of the boff seating that permit me to do some science. I tried the DSD I have the pack and don't really like them so those are out for me.
Romulan and KDF are really let down in the science department for native science ships. You have to get one of those lockbox ship to get something really good otherwise we get the short end of the stick.
Also the lack of science ship is also bad for the admiralty system with all those science requirement specialy if your char is KDF aligned. Please cryptic give us a little more choice.
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E'Mc2 : Science Reman torp T'Varo, deadly annoyance :P
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My Romulan Science Captain was flying the Annorax for a while, but I just prefer maneuverable science vessels, and am back to the Dyson again.
Perfect would be a Tier 6 variation that removes the Iconesque/Dyson elements, which would be relatively minor cosmetic changes (at least to the naked eye.)
Alternatively, make it more like the Whitestar.
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My Romulan Science Captain was flying the Annorax for a while, but I just prefer maneuverable science vessels, and am back to the Dyson again.
Perfect would be a Tier 6 variation that removes the Iconesque/Dyson elements, which would be relatively minor cosmetic changes (at least to the naked eye.)
well that the problem i lost my dyson ship because i couldn't understand why i couldn't get it on my DR character which i created so i discard it think i can claim it back so it can unlock for my DR character, but in doing so i lost my Sci ship. i can not support anything which makes people loss stuff that they work hard to get in the first place. just give as new complete different sci ship. No more dyson stuff.
"You ask why we give our ships computer normal emotions. Do you really want a warship incapable of loyalty?"
Well it not there anymore, it just grey out which mean I can not claim it. It was good I took everything off it before I discard it. This is the kind of problems why I can not stand to play other factions. RR is loosing out too much same for KDF, sometimes I wonder if it even worth our time to play any class but tac. The game is all about Tac ships and Eng ships than Sci ships. And before someone says lockbox ships, I have you know I like flying my factions ships much more than those lockboxes ships.
"You ask why we give our ships computer normal emotions. Do you really want a warship incapable of loyalty?"
Well it not there anymore, it just grey out which mean I can not claim it. It was good I took everything off it before I discard it. This is the kind of problems why I can not stand to play other factions. RR is loosing out too much same for KDF, sometimes I wonder if it even worth our time to play any class but tac. The game is all about Tac ships and Eng ships than Sci ships. And before someone says lockbox ships, I have you know I like flying my factions ships much more than those lockboxes ships.
well first, double check to make sure you didnt put it in dry dock, that would prevent reclaiming. If not send in a ticket and pray to whatever religion you buy into
I'd like that ship to come out as well. I saw how well it could look with some of the T6 pieces they already have based on the Kara design. Don't tell me they can't design that ship. They already did. Stats? Just bump a few things up a bit. a console, a bonus, a trait, some dusting off... VOILA! T6 Ha'feh!
My Romulan Science Captain was flying the Annorax for a while, but I just prefer maneuverable science vessels, and am back to the Dyson again.
Perfect would be a Tier 6 variation that removes the Iconesque/Dyson elements, which would be relatively minor cosmetic changes (at least to the naked eye.)
Alternatively, make it more like the Whitestar.
Seconded.
Thirded!
But I suppose there is something on the horizon with all the AoY business they're trying to get started. The Eternal science ship and the Ouroboros raider is mentioned as being all faction ships. The Eternal may finally be what ends my feud (if understandably not others') concerning science ships for the other 2 factions. I had no interest in ships that are too frail, require too much lobi, or worse those lottery ships that either require a Godzilla sized amount of luck or ECs to get. Worse yet, they're all for single toon purchase, not account unlock. But I may have found at least a decent alternative, depending on the size stats and all.
I'd like that ship to come out as well. I saw how well it could look with some of the T6 pieces they already have based on the Kara design. Don't tell me they can't design that ship. They already did. Stats? Just bump a few things up a bit. a console, a bonus, a trait, some dusting off... VOILA! T6 Ha'feh!
My Romulan Science Captain was flying the Annorax for a while, but I just prefer maneuverable science vessels, and am back to the Dyson again.
Perfect would be a Tier 6 variation that removes the Iconesque/Dyson elements, which would be relatively minor cosmetic changes (at least to the naked eye.)
Alternatively, make it more like the Whitestar.
Seconded.
Thirded!
But I suppose there is something on the horizon with all the AoY business they're trying to get started. The Eternal science ship and the Ouroboros raider is mentioned as being all faction ships. The Eternal may finally be what ends my feud (if understandably not others') concerning science ships for the other 2 factions. I had no interest in ships that are too frail, require too much lobi, or worse those lottery ships that either require a Godzilla sized amount of luck or ECs to get. Worse yet, they're all for single toon purchase, not account unlock. But I may have found at least a decent alternative, depending on the size stats and all.
I could see it for the Galactic Alliance, but I still don't see why there can't be god Sci ships for the Empire, and the Republic, while they still have cultural freedom. XD
I'd like that ship to come out as well. I saw how well it could look with some of the T6 pieces they already have based on the Kara design. Don't tell me they can't design that ship. They already did. Stats? Just bump a few things up a bit. a console, a bonus, a trait, some dusting off... VOILA! T6 Ha'feh!
My Romulan Science Captain was flying the Annorax for a while, but I just prefer maneuverable science vessels, and am back to the Dyson again.
Perfect would be a Tier 6 variation that removes the Iconesque/Dyson elements, which would be relatively minor cosmetic changes (at least to the naked eye.)
Alternatively, make it more like the Whitestar.
Seconded.
Thirded!
But I suppose there is something on the horizon with all the AoY business they're trying to get started. The Eternal science ship and the Ouroboros raider is mentioned as being all faction ships. The Eternal may finally be what ends my feud (if understandably not others') concerning science ships for the other 2 factions. I had no interest in ships that are too frail, require too much lobi, or worse those lottery ships that either require a Godzilla sized amount of luck or ECs to get. Worse yet, they're all for single toon purchase, not account unlock. But I may have found at least a decent alternative, depending on the size stats and all.
I could see it for the Galactic Alliance, but I still don't see why there can't be god Sci ships for the Empire, and the Republic, while they still have cultural freedom. XD
Yeah the Ouroboros & Eternal are kind of a cop out but honestly after all this time it's one I can live with, mostly. Just repress the fact that feds also get a load of other ships which includes a store T6-battlecloaking-fleetlevel-raider. Yey.....
Though I doubt it the best we can hop for is that they alllow faction specific hull materials like they did with the dyson bunch ( waaaay after their initial release tough).
Also not all hope for a "romulan" sci ship is lost..... JJ is coming.
what with ever one with this mining ships turn into warships business these days. can't they come with something more impresive than that.
well... off the cuff mind you.... they're supposed to be RSE designs, and the RSE cant afford to give their "Empress" anything better than a modified freighter anymore... So is a converted mining ship really that odd??
Aren't the new T6 temporal cross faction ships just a remake / T6 upgrade on the old wells / moebius temporal sci / destoryers ? if so I hope we can use the R'mor an Talaveth skins if we already own the T5 versions.
Also yea a T6 ha'fef is long over due. same with the Ha'nom it not like cryptic doesn't have the material assets to make this happen. Kinda suprised they haven't done it already. but then I'm reminded Roms are not the hot shiny toy called feddie bears so were just shafted same as KDF .
Aren't the new T6 temporal cross faction ships just a remake / T6 upgrade on the old wells / moebius temporal sci / destoryers ? if so I hope we can use the R'mor an Talaveth skins if we already own the T5 versions.
no, one is a Temporal Raider the other is a Temporal Multi-Mission Science Vessel
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They were solid a year ago. Its total trash compared to the anniversary ship which is total trash compared to the paradox lobi ship. I have a DSD and loved it but this is like telling all the tac captains to go buy an arkif (imagine nothing better existed) and compare it to the balthim raider....
*flies an Ar'kif and has no idea what you're complaining about*
Lockbox ships will always be that extra edge better, as are event ships often. There's standard faction ships at the bottom, then there's faction fleet grade ships that are better, then event and then lockbox. That's nothing new. I don't agree with it, I think we should be encouraged to fly our faction's ships over other options, but it's nothing new.
That said, faction ships are plenty viable at the end-game. DSDs and the Ar'kif included. You just need to compensate for their weaknesses, and maximize their strengths - but that's the same with any ship.
lightning done struck the sh*t house... I 100% agree with chipg7
I thought something smelled like burning... ahem
Try it. Load up that awesome endgame destroying dyson and drop a TBR on a group. Now do the same in a modern sci ship with OSS and turbulence on the targets.
Romulan and KDF are really let down in the science department for native science ships. You have to get one of those lockbox ship to get something really good otherwise we get the short end of the stick.
Also the lack of science ship is also bad for the admiralty system with all those science requirement specialy if your char is KDF aligned. Please cryptic give us a little more choice.
E'Mc2 : Science Reman torp T'Varo, deadly annoyance :P
Kunmal: Tactical fed Klingon, ground specialist, USS Kanewaga
Ka -tet Tier 5 fleet fully completed Starbase and fleet property
WHEN? When Cryptic? I NEED this ship in T6!
My Romulan Science Captain was flying the Annorax for a while, but I just prefer maneuverable science vessels, and am back to the Dyson again.
Perfect would be a Tier 6 variation that removes the Iconesque/Dyson elements, which would be relatively minor cosmetic changes (at least to the naked eye.)
Seconded.
Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
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well first, double check to make sure you didnt put it in dry dock, that would prevent reclaiming. If not send in a ticket and pray to whatever religion you buy into
--RoboCop, [ in my own word "bump" ]--T9
I'd like that ship to come out as well. I saw how well it could look with some of the T6 pieces they already have based on the Kara design. Don't tell me they can't design that ship. They already did. Stats? Just bump a few things up a bit. a console, a bonus, a trait, some dusting off... VOILA! T6 Ha'feh!
Thirded!
But I suppose there is something on the horizon with all the AoY business they're trying to get started. The Eternal science ship and the Ouroboros raider is mentioned as being all faction ships. The Eternal may finally be what ends my feud (if understandably not others') concerning science ships for the other 2 factions. I had no interest in ships that are too frail, require too much lobi, or worse those lottery ships that either require a Godzilla sized amount of luck or ECs to get. Worse yet, they're all for single toon purchase, not account unlock. But I may have found at least a decent alternative, depending on the size stats and all.
I could see it for the Galactic Alliance, but I still don't see why there can't be god Sci ships for the Empire, and the Republic, while they still have cultural freedom. XD
Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/13262502435_5604548f2c_o.png
Yeah the Ouroboros & Eternal are kind of a cop out but honestly after all this time it's one I can live with, mostly. Just repress the fact that feds also get a load of other ships which includes a store T6-battlecloaking-fleetlevel-raider. Yey.....
Though I doubt it the best we can hop for is that they alllow faction specific hull materials like they did with the dyson bunch ( waaaay after their initial release tough).
Also not all hope for a "romulan" sci ship is lost..... JJ is coming.
Let me guess, an Adapted Warbird that can destroy planets?
Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
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more of a mining ship with some...alterations
Just two sides of the same Talon.
Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
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well... off the cuff mind you.... they're supposed to be RSE designs, and the RSE cant afford to give their "Empress" anything better than a modified freighter anymore... So is a converted mining ship really that odd??
ooc, its part of the upcoming JJverse stuff
Oh I forgot they hate us.
*cough* Adapted Warp Core. *cough*
Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/13262502435_5604548f2c_o.png
Also yea a T6 ha'fef is long over due. same with the Ha'nom it not like cryptic doesn't have the material assets to make this happen. Kinda suprised they haven't done it already. but then I'm reminded Roms are not the hot shiny toy called feddie bears so were just shafted same as KDF .
no, one is a Temporal Raider the other is a Temporal Multi-Mission Science Vessel