I'am not Voting on any of them but would like to RE-Post a Comment Regarding a Private Design from an Artist on Deviantart.com, hoping that you Guys - PLAYERS and CRYPTIC Team - have a look on this, i hope thats ok.
That design is alright and looks kind of like the old jupiter class in game to me... was it jupiter? *google* yes. But I would prefer a nebula configuration ship where the mission pod was replaced with a flight deck. I think it would be particularly cool to do a nebula configuration of the ody to show that "deign lineage." alternatively, dangerouslydac's submission to the design the next enterprise concept is one of my personal favorites and would be a chunky monkey worthy of carrying around a belly full of craft, plus should already be under cryptic's jurisdiction having been submitted to the contest:
The Nebula-configured Odyssey needs to be a thing.
with THIS as a New Frigatte Pet (and eventuelly a Standalone Escort later)
Those are not the ships we are voting for.
And those Premade Schematics are not the Ships I will Vote for, so you are free to do whatever you want, only thing i do is showing People Including Cryptic an alternative that the Playerbase might like.
I'am not Voting on any of them but would like to RE-Post a Comment Regarding a Private Design from an Artist on Deviantart.com, hoping that you Guys - PLAYERS and CRYPTIC Team - have a look on this, i hope thats ok.
That design is alright and looks kind of like the old jupiter class in game to me... was it jupiter? *google* yes. But I would prefer a nebula configuration ship where the mission pod was replaced with a flight deck. I think it would be particularly cool to do a nebula configuration of the ody to show that "deign lineage." alternatively, dangerouslydac's submission to the design the next enterprise concept is one of my personal favorites and would be a chunky monkey worthy of carrying around a belly full of craft, plus should already be under cryptic's jurisdiction having been submitted to the contest:
for a New Enterprise or a new Dreadnought Type ship, this could be Interesting, but for a Carrier that probably could launch Frigattes, this does not Fit unlike what i Posted, that would be the Perfect Full Carrier Design, my oppinion of course, everyone has their own, but anyone who agrees with me and likes those is free to Support me with this.
with THIS as a New Frigatte Pet (and eventuelly a Standalone Escort later)
Those are not the ships we are voting for.
And those Premade Schematics are not the Ships I will Vote for, so you are free to do whatever you want, only thing i do is showing People Including Cryptic an alternative that the Playerbase might like.
It doesn't matter. Those ships are not part of the contest nor are they owned by you or Cryptic/PWE. You have posted those images several times in this thread encouraging people to vote for them and the thread is being derailed.
This is NOT the place to post "alternative ship designs". If you don't like what is offered then don't vote.
Making suggestions about someone else's ships would be better off in general discussion. You could also PM @pwlaughingtrendy and ask how you can get Cryptic/PWE in touch with whoever created the concept art for those ships in case it's something they'd be interested in.
with THIS as a New Frigatte Pet (and eventuelly a Standalone Escort later)
Those are not the ships we are voting for.
And those Premade Schematics are not the Ships I will Vote for, so you are free to do whatever you want, only thing i do is showing People Including Cryptic an alternative that the Playerbase might like.
It doesn't matter. Those ships are not part of the contest nor are they owned by you or Cryptic/PWE. You have posted those images several times in this thread encouraging people to vote for them and the thread is being derailed.
This is NOT the place to post "alternative ship designs". If you don't like what is offered then don't vote.
Making suggestions about someone else's ships would be better off in general discussion. You could also PM @pwlaughingtrendy and ask how you can get Cryptic/PWE in touch with whoever created the concept art for those ships in case it's something they'd be interested in.
my last answer for you, if you are not a Cryptic member, stop telling me what to do and mind your own business?
you dont have to like or support my idea, nor do you have to comment them, your oppinion is your oppinion, and mine is mine, and everyone here has his own mind / oppinion to choose whether they like that idea or not, again not your business, you are not the one to decide for others.
Also, i dont think that Cryptic will now throw in one new Fed Carrier after another, so this might be the ONLY Chance to bring in this Idea, hoping that someone maybe will like it and consider taking it as another Option and let People Vote for it, as long as Cryptic does not Strictly say NO to alternatives, it is not yours to make that decision.
with THIS as a New Frigatte Pet (and eventuelly a Standalone Escort later)
You do realize that there are legal hurdles that Cryptic would have to clear with CBS in order to even get the ship into the game, so it's very unlikely. Please stop suggesting this.
Alpha looks more like a carrier due to it's solid design, plus it's nacelle design is aesthetically pleasing. Now Beta looks like a bloated and deformed Enterprise E from the side view. Also don't get me started on the saucer section design.
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You do realize that there are legal hurdles that Cryptic would have to clear with CBS in order to even get the ship into the game, so it's very unlikely. Please stop suggesting this.
Nothing is unlikely, the Vesta, Odyssey, Chimera, and i dont know how many other Ships are all Private Designs of People who participated in Ship Design Contests, so how is this Different? Cryptic only has to get in contact with the Designers of those Ships and ask them for their OK regarding this, and i cant see why they should not, i allready contacted both Designers and told them about my Idea to bring their Ships (maybe) into the Game with this Contest?
Waiting for their Answer, maybe they will be even contact Cryptic Directly? maybe sharing their Designs themself here in this Thread? So only thing left to do would be get the Green Light from CBS and TADA! its done, worked before so no reason why it shouldnt now.
with THIS as a New Frigatte Pet (and eventuelly a Standalone Escort later)
Those are not the ships we are voting for.
And those Premade Schematics are not the Ships I will Vote for, so you are free to do whatever you want, only thing i do is showing People Including Cryptic an alternative that the Playerbase might like.
It doesn't matter. Those ships are not part of the contest nor are they owned by you or Cryptic/PWE. You have posted those images several times in this thread encouraging people to vote for them and the thread is being derailed.
This is NOT the place to post "alternative ship designs". If you don't like what is offered then don't vote.
Making suggestions about someone else's ships would be better off in general discussion. You could also PM @pwlaughingtrendy and ask how you can get Cryptic/PWE in touch with whoever created the concept art for those ships in case it's something they'd be interested in.
my last answer for you, if you are not a Cryptic member, stop telling me what to do and mind your own business?
you dont have to like or support my idea, nor do you have to comment them, your oppinion is your oppinion, and mine is mine, and everyone here has his own mind / oppinion to choose whether they like that idea or not, again not your business, you are not the one to decide for others.
Also, i dont think that Cryptic will now throw in one new Fed Carrier after another, so this might be the ONLY Chance to bring in this Idea, hoping that someone maybe will like it and consider taking it as another Option and let People Vote for it, as long as Cryptic does not Strictly say NO to alternatives, it is not yours to make that decision.
So go on please and dont bother me anymore.
I never gave my opinion on whether or not I like those ship designs. If you must know, I actually do like them. This just isn't the thread to suggest them.
Spamming You may not create posts which contain:
"Excessive communications of the same phrase, similar phrases, or gibberish." - You posted those ship images several times in this thread, talking about how great they are, and encouraging people to vote for them. In other words, you're making multiple similar posts.
"Creation of petitions." - You keep trying to encourage people to vote for something that isn't officially sanctioned by PWE or Cryptic.
"Posting of off-topic comments, including but not limited to comments or discussions of a religious, or political nature." - Like I said, you're off-topic. This is about 2 ships to vote for, not a place to suggest "alternative ships".
It's perfectly fine if to say you don't like Cryptic's ship designs, but please post your suggestions for something different in the appropriate forums, such as General Discussion.
Man, I'm usually against any new Fed ships before getting more KDF and Romulan, but I'll agee that the Fed side has been lacking in decent carriers. I love the Atrox look but can't stand the layout.
I suspect the creation of a true fed carrier will be deployed along side a KDF t6 update of the voquv, could be wrong, but since the devs have been seeming to deploy a "basically the same ship with same trait" for each faction as of late, I'm thinking the devs might be wanting to give feds a proper fed carrier to mirror the voquv so they can both launch the the same trait. Perhaps then the atrox and karfi will show up side by side with similar traits as well... or perhaps I have the match ups backwards and it will be atrox/voquv and whatever the fed carrier ends up being/karfi.
with THIS as a New Frigatte Pet (and eventuelly a Standalone Escort later)
Those are not the ships we are voting for.
And those Premade Schematics are not the Ships I will Vote for, so you are free to do whatever you want, only thing i do is showing People Including Cryptic an alternative that the Playerbase might like.
It doesn't matter. Those ships are not part of the contest nor are they owned by you or Cryptic/PWE. You have posted those images several times in this thread encouraging people to vote for them and the thread is being derailed.
This is NOT the place to post "alternative ship designs". If you don't like what is offered then don't vote.
Making suggestions about someone else's ships would be better off in general discussion. You could also PM @pwlaughingtrendy and ask how you can get Cryptic/PWE in touch with whoever created the concept art for those ships in case it's something they'd be interested in.
my last answer for you, if you are not a Cryptic member, stop telling me what to do and mind your own business?
you dont have to like or support my idea, nor do you have to comment them, your oppinion is your oppinion, and mine is mine, and everyone here has his own mind / oppinion to choose whether they like that idea or not, again not your business, you are not the one to decide for others.
Also, i dont think that Cryptic will now throw in one new Fed Carrier after another, so this might be the ONLY Chance to bring in this Idea, hoping that someone maybe will like it and consider taking it as another Option and let People Vote for it, as long as Cryptic does not Strictly say NO to alternatives, it is not yours to make that decision.
So go on please and dont bother me anymore.
At the very least there is hope that if we don't like these base designs as presented, the final product might be more to our liking. The "contest"/brawl or whatever this is claims that these are just the "intro" followed by a "design" phase where I am guessing we will get to vote on variations of different parts of the overall concept, then "build" might be the functional layout of the ship like boff stations, then the ship will be modeled and launched, so there's still hope even if people don't like any of these base concepts.
I don't think the naysayers of your suggestion are trying to crush your hopes and dreams just for the sake of the crushing, I think they know that there's all kinds of legal BS involved in cryptic taking designs that are not in-house which involves all sorts of expense and red tape that they aren't likely to undertake, especially considering cryptic has designers for a reason.
Not only does cryptic have to get permission from the creator, they have to try to track down whether or not the design is derivative of someone else's work, i.e. close enough that it could cause future legal trouble, or outright ripped off, they have to make sure it doesn't look too much like some other franchise's IP, they have to secure rights, and of course all of this has expenses attached, legal fees, copyright submissions, blah blah. They have to weigh the value of all that expense and effort against simply using their own designs (which will also have to go through much of this gauntlet anyway) and where that money could be going instead, like getting original cast to lend their voices to their in game characters. Not to mention it would render much of their design team redundant to stop using them.
There may have already been a post about this, but trendy might actually want to make that a blog post: "Why we don't routinely use fan designs" detailing all the TRIBBLE they have to go through compared to using in house designs and then pin that to the top of the forums so people can just be referred to it as to why their favorite fan-concept ships will likely never see life in this game.
But that aside, carrier or not, a nebula class configuration based on the ody, lets make this happen./end tangent :P
The Nebula-configured Odyssey needs to be a thing.
To be honest I don't care for most of those designs.
If you look closely, some of those designs seem to be based on already existing ships.
For example:
The "Delta" ship looks similar to the Constellation class (heavy cruiser refit from the c-store; skin can be used on all other heavy cruiser variants). It has a large round saucer with 2 nacelles on top and 2 on bottom, close together at the rear of the saucer, and disproportionately small compared to the saucer. There's pretty much no lower hull and the pylons and nacelles are attacked directly to the saucer, like the Constellation.
"Alpha" looks similar to the Dakota class (another ship skin of the heavy cruiser). The bottom nacelles are further forward than the top, like the Dakota. The saucer is also shaped similarly. The difference is the bottom nacelles are shorter than the top (when looking at the side view), compared to the bottom nacelles on the Dakota being slightly longer than the top (or possibly all nacelles on the Dakota are the same length).
"Sigma" looks similar to the Stargazer class (yet another skin variant of the heavy cruiser).
There is 1 model I do like, but it's not one to vote on in this poll. All others I don't really care for. I'll keep to myself which one I sort of like for now.
with THIS as a New Frigatte Pet (and eventuelly a Standalone Escort later)
You do realize that there are legal hurdles that Cryptic would have to clear with CBS in order to even get the ship into the game, so it's very unlikely. Please stop suggesting this.
Nothing is unlikely, the Vesta, Odyssey, Chimera, and i dont know how many other Ships are all Private Designs of People who participated in Ship Design Contests, so how is this Different? Cryptic only has to get in contact with the Designers of those Ships and ask them for their OK regarding this, and i cant see why they should not, i allready contacted both Designers and told them about my Idea to bring their Ships (maybe) into the Game with this Contest?
Waiting for their Answer, maybe they will be even contact Cryptic Directly? maybe sharing their Designs themself here in this Thread? So only thing left to do would be get the Green Light from CBS and TADA! its done, worked before so no reason why it shouldnt now.
The Vesta needed CBS approval in order to be put into the game, as it was from the book series. I believe the Luna-class was also apart of this but because it was designed to be the ship that Riker was commanding, I think they got the okay to include it as part of the initial ships for the game. As for the Odyssey and Chimera, they were ship designs from the Design the next Enterprise contest, which CBS approved of. Cryptic liked the Chimera design so much that they decided to make it the Federation Veteran ship. What do all these have in common? CBS approval, mostly because they came outside of the tv and film canon.
Please understand that this thread is designed for people to vote on which CRYPTIC designs they like between the Alpha and Beta design. If you want to have people talk about alternative designs, take it to the general discussion forum instead of siderailing the thread.
with THIS as a New Frigatte Pet (and eventuelly a Standalone Escort later)
Those are not the ships we are voting for.
And those Premade Schematics are not the Ships I will Vote for, so you are free to do whatever you want, only thing i do is showing People Including Cryptic an alternative that the Playerbase might like.
It doesn't matter. Those ships are not part of the contest nor are they owned by you or Cryptic/PWE. You have posted those images several times in this thread encouraging people to vote for them and the thread is being derailed.
This is NOT the place to post "alternative ship designs". If you don't like what is offered then don't vote.
Making suggestions about someone else's ships would be better off in general discussion. You could also PM @pwlaughingtrendy and ask how you can get Cryptic/PWE in touch with whoever created the concept art for those ships in case it's something they'd be interested in.
my last answer for you, if you are not a Cryptic member, stop telling me what to do and mind your own business?
you dont have to like or support my idea, nor do you have to comment them, your oppinion is your oppinion, and mine is mine, and everyone here has his own mind / oppinion to choose whether they like that idea or not, again not your business, you are not the one to decide for others.
Also, i dont think that Cryptic will now throw in one new Fed Carrier after another, so this might be the ONLY Chance to bring in this Idea, hoping that someone maybe will like it and consider taking it as another Option and let People Vote for it, as long as Cryptic does not Strictly say NO to alternatives, it is not yours to make that decision.
So go on please and dont bother me anymore.
At the very least there is hope that if we don't like these base designs as presented, the final product might be more to our liking. The "contest"/brawl or whatever this is claims that these are just the "intro" followed by a "design" phase where I am guessing we will get to vote on variations of different parts of the overall concept, then "build" might be the functional layout of the ship like boff stations, then the ship will be modeled and launched, so there's still hope even if people don't like any of these base concepts.
I don't think the naysayers of your suggestion are trying to crush your hopes and dreams just for the sake of the crushing, I think they know that there's all kinds of legal BS involved in cryptic taking designs that are not in-house which involves all sorts of expense and red tape that they aren't likely to undertake, especially considering cryptic has designers for a reason.
Not only does cryptic have to get permission from the creator, they have to try to track down whether or not the design is derivative of someone else's work, i.e. close enough that it could cause future legal trouble, or outright ripped off, they have to make sure it doesn't look too much like some other franchise's IP, they have to secure rights, and of course all of this has expenses attached, legal fees, copyright submissions, blah blah. They have to weigh the value of all that expense and effort against simply using their own designs (which will also have to go through much of this gauntlet anyway) and where that money could be going instead, like getting original cast to lend their voices to their in game characters. Not to mention it would render much of their design team redundant to stop using them.
There may have already been a post about this, but trendy might actually want to make that a blog post: "Why we don't routinely use fan designs" detailing all the TRIBBLE they have to go through compared to using in house designs and then pin that to the top of the forums so people can just be referred to it as to why their favorite fan-concept ships will likely never see life in this game.
But that aside, carrier or not, a nebula class configuration based on the ody, lets make this happen./end tangent :P
If we're going to be able to vote on bridge officer stations, I'm calling it right now: Pilot will win by a landslide. The last couple or so ships they released had Command seating, 1 of which was the T6 Excelsior, and players were complaining that the T6 Excelsior should have had pilot seating. And the new Multi-Vector Assault Escort they just released, players complained about yet another ship having Command seating.
Too much pointy saucered Fed ships of late, time to bring back the roundness again. Beta has my vote.
It's elongated width also makes sense for a carrier design.
I like the Omega design, but I am hoping that it will be able to carry frigates or the Aquarius class Light Escort. I hope it also has two hanger slots, comes with Peregrine fighters, but can hold Aquarius light escorts.
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than vote for THIS
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Because! I don't know.
That design is alright and looks kind of like the old jupiter class in game to me... was it jupiter? *google* yes. But I would prefer a nebula configuration ship where the mission pod was replaced with a flight deck. I think it would be particularly cool to do a nebula configuration of the ody to show that "deign lineage." alternatively, dangerouslydac's submission to the design the next enterprise concept is one of my personal favorites and would be a chunky monkey worthy of carrying around a belly full of craft, plus should already be under cryptic's jurisdiction having been submitted to the contest:
The Nebula-configured Odyssey needs to be a thing.
Those are not the ships we are voting for.
And those Premade Schematics are not the Ships I will Vote for, so you are free to do whatever you want, only thing i do is showing People Including Cryptic an alternative that the Playerbase might like.
Nerfing is Fraud...
for a New Enterprise or a new Dreadnought Type ship, this could be Interesting, but for a Carrier that probably could launch Frigattes, this does not Fit unlike what i Posted, that would be the Perfect Full Carrier Design, my oppinion of course, everyone has their own, but anyone who agrees with me and likes those is free to Support me with this.
It doesn't matter. Those ships are not part of the contest nor are they owned by you or Cryptic/PWE. You have posted those images several times in this thread encouraging people to vote for them and the thread is being derailed.
This is NOT the place to post "alternative ship designs". If you don't like what is offered then don't vote.
Making suggestions about someone else's ships would be better off in general discussion. You could also PM @pwlaughingtrendy and ask how you can get Cryptic/PWE in touch with whoever created the concept art for those ships in case it's something they'd be interested in.
my last answer for you, if you are not a Cryptic member, stop telling me what to do and mind your own business?
you dont have to like or support my idea, nor do you have to comment them, your oppinion is your oppinion, and mine is mine, and everyone here has his own mind / oppinion to choose whether they like that idea or not, again not your business, you are not the one to decide for others.
Also, i dont think that Cryptic will now throw in one new Fed Carrier after another, so this might be the ONLY Chance to bring in this Idea, hoping that someone maybe will like it and consider taking it as another Option and let People Vote for it, as long as Cryptic does not Strictly say NO to alternatives, it is not yours to make that decision.
So go on please and dont bother me anymore.
You do realize that there are legal hurdles that Cryptic would have to clear with CBS in order to even get the ship into the game, so it's very unlikely. Please stop suggesting this.
Nothing is unlikely, the Vesta, Odyssey, Chimera, and i dont know how many other Ships are all Private Designs of People who participated in Ship Design Contests, so how is this Different? Cryptic only has to get in contact with the Designers of those Ships and ask them for their OK regarding this, and i cant see why they should not, i allready contacted both Designers and told them about my Idea to bring their Ships (maybe) into the Game with this Contest?
Waiting for their Answer, maybe they will be even contact Cryptic Directly? maybe sharing their Designs themself here in this Thread? So only thing left to do would be get the Green Light from CBS and TADA! its done, worked before so no reason why it shouldnt now.
I never gave my opinion on whether or not I like those ship designs. If you must know, I actually do like them. This just isn't the thread to suggest them.
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Spamming You may not create posts which contain:
"Excessive communications of the same phrase, similar phrases, or gibberish." - You posted those ship images several times in this thread, talking about how great they are, and encouraging people to vote for them. In other words, you're making multiple similar posts.
"Creation of petitions." - You keep trying to encourage people to vote for something that isn't officially sanctioned by PWE or Cryptic.
"Posting of off-topic comments, including but not limited to comments or discussions of a religious, or political nature." - Like I said, you're off-topic. This is about 2 ships to vote for, not a place to suggest "alternative ships".
It's perfectly fine if to say you don't like Cryptic's ship designs, but please post your suggestions for something different in the appropriate forums, such as General Discussion.
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At the very least there is hope that if we don't like these base designs as presented, the final product might be more to our liking. The "contest"/brawl or whatever this is claims that these are just the "intro" followed by a "design" phase where I am guessing we will get to vote on variations of different parts of the overall concept, then "build" might be the functional layout of the ship like boff stations, then the ship will be modeled and launched, so there's still hope even if people don't like any of these base concepts.
I don't think the naysayers of your suggestion are trying to crush your hopes and dreams just for the sake of the crushing, I think they know that there's all kinds of legal BS involved in cryptic taking designs that are not in-house which involves all sorts of expense and red tape that they aren't likely to undertake, especially considering cryptic has designers for a reason.
Not only does cryptic have to get permission from the creator, they have to try to track down whether or not the design is derivative of someone else's work, i.e. close enough that it could cause future legal trouble, or outright ripped off, they have to make sure it doesn't look too much like some other franchise's IP, they have to secure rights, and of course all of this has expenses attached, legal fees, copyright submissions, blah blah. They have to weigh the value of all that expense and effort against simply using their own designs (which will also have to go through much of this gauntlet anyway) and where that money could be going instead, like getting original cast to lend their voices to their in game characters. Not to mention it would render much of their design team redundant to stop using them.
There may have already been a post about this, but trendy might actually want to make that a blog post: "Why we don't routinely use fan designs" detailing all the TRIBBLE they have to go through compared to using in house designs and then pin that to the top of the forums so people can just be referred to it as to why their favorite fan-concept ships will likely never see life in this game.
But that aside, carrier or not, a nebula class configuration based on the ody, lets make this happen./end tangent :P
The Nebula-configured Odyssey needs to be a thing.
If you look closely, some of those designs seem to be based on already existing ships.
For example:
The "Delta" ship looks similar to the Constellation class (heavy cruiser refit from the c-store; skin can be used on all other heavy cruiser variants). It has a large round saucer with 2 nacelles on top and 2 on bottom, close together at the rear of the saucer, and disproportionately small compared to the saucer. There's pretty much no lower hull and the pylons and nacelles are attacked directly to the saucer, like the Constellation.
"Alpha" looks similar to the Dakota class (another ship skin of the heavy cruiser). The bottom nacelles are further forward than the top, like the Dakota. The saucer is also shaped similarly. The difference is the bottom nacelles are shorter than the top (when looking at the side view), compared to the bottom nacelles on the Dakota being slightly longer than the top (or possibly all nacelles on the Dakota are the same length).
"Sigma" looks similar to the Stargazer class (yet another skin variant of the heavy cruiser).
There is 1 model I do like, but it's not one to vote on in this poll. All others I don't really care for. I'll keep to myself which one I sort of like for now.
The Vesta needed CBS approval in order to be put into the game, as it was from the book series. I believe the Luna-class was also apart of this but because it was designed to be the ship that Riker was commanding, I think they got the okay to include it as part of the initial ships for the game. As for the Odyssey and Chimera, they were ship designs from the Design the next Enterprise contest, which CBS approved of. Cryptic liked the Chimera design so much that they decided to make it the Federation Veteran ship. What do all these have in common? CBS approval, mostly because they came outside of the tv and film canon.
Please understand that this thread is designed for people to vote on which CRYPTIC designs they like between the Alpha and Beta design. If you want to have people talk about alternative designs, take it to the general discussion forum instead of siderailing the thread.
If we're going to be able to vote on bridge officer stations, I'm calling it right now: Pilot will win by a landslide. The last couple or so ships they released had Command seating, 1 of which was the T6 Excelsior, and players were complaining that the T6 Excelsior should have had pilot seating. And the new Multi-Vector Assault Escort they just released, players complained about yet another ship having Command seating.
It's elongated width also makes sense for a carrier design.
Omega looks more like the Jupiter imo
I doubt form will have any affect on function. Apart from where the fighters launch from.