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  • burstorionburstorion Member Posts: 1,750 Arc User
    Anyone tried the Yoyo of doom yet?

    Mega grav well then a high yield torp with overwhelming strikes results in everything being pulled in, then blasted out by the overwhelming strikes photonic shockwave and then yanked back in by the gw...with the command torp power that gives a free hyt1 every four seconds, you can achieve some quite funny yoyo combinations...​​
  • plaztikman64plaztikman64 Member Posts: 725 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    So, since the topic is "maxed out gravity well" and since there are no real numbers (afaik) when it comes to the Starship Graviton Generators & Starship Particle Generators, the question which has been already asked here and remains the most important is:

    What are the actual values from which a gravity well starts pulling enemies?

    I am pretty new dealing with these science abilities, and right now, I'm at about 230 GravGen and after one quick test, all enemies at about 8km got pulled in. Again, this was just a basic test and I am still not sure if that is the maximum value for a GravGen @ 230. Aux power also is very important afaik, but I didn't really payed attention to my ships aux level at this point.

    I wonder, is there actually a way to make a proper, or even a roughly prediction for this ability?
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Hmm... I'm sure someone has a calculation for that... but I don't have one handy.
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  • makocallowaymakocalloway Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    It has to exist. I've seen formulas for just about every other power we have
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  • e30erneste30ernest Member Posts: 1,794 Arc User
    Closest I've seen for that info is here:

    http://www.amicushome.com/SkillPointEffects.htm

    The skillpoint effects to GravGens and GravWell radius is listed there.
  • makocallowaymakocalloway Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    That is super helpful! Thanks!

    Hum...if I'm reading this right (and I'm probably not, some one correct me), it looks like for every 99 points in GravGen = 3.75 km. So to get to this super GW of 20k would be...a whole hecka lot of points o_O
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  • darkdog13darkdog13 Member Posts: 209 Arc User
    That is super helpful! Thanks!

    Hum...if I'm reading this right (and I'm probably not, some one correct me), it looks like for every 99 points in GravGen = 3.75 km. So to get to this super GW of 20k would be...a whole hecka lot of points o_O

    I wonder if that chart is right i remember at one point Gravgens were not effecting gravity well correctly (having very little effect) and was fixed in a patch.
  • wakeoflovewakeoflove Member Posts: 103 Arc User
    That is super helpful! Thanks!

    Hum...if I'm reading this right (and I'm probably not, some one correct me), it looks like for every 99 points in GravGen = 3.75 km. So to get to this super GW of 20k would be...a whole hecka lot of points o_O

    Actually it says that 99 points took it from 3km to 3.75km, so just +.75km, lol. It would be impossible to get a giant well from the 400ish points one might be able to muster from an uber try hard build+skills/traits, and it's really annoying that the well's values don't change in the tool tip based on grav gens. LIke my grav well 3 always says +28 pull, that number doesn't go up or down with aux and it doesn't go up or down with particle gens. And even MORE helpful than a "pull" value would be a km radius of effect. -.- devs. (get on it)
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  • makocallowaymakocalloway Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    Yes, I know the thread is a little old, but I don't think the question has been accurately answered about what the math is for x amount of grav point = y km of GW radius. Is that doc indeed correct? And do the numbers increase as stated before in the previous post?
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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    It is a wildly complicated thing to work out, mainly because even stuff like combat log reader doesn't actually record the effect of crowd control, so you've got not real numbers to go on.
    Anything doing damage is easy enough to work out if you've got the raw data but distances, and push/pull effects are a nightmare.
    There are so many things that can affect the pull of your well, regardless of the size of it. How fast an enemy is going, their inertia, turn rate etc. Plus all those pesky abilities they may use like EptE and the like.

    Testing the whole thing is difficult to as you'd really need a controlled environment to set ships at proper distances, there's just too many variables in regular queues. You wouldn't be able to really get the NPC's to stay put whilst you shot them. Perhaps a foundry mission could be made for this sort of thing?
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Hehe, I remember my first time using Grav Well on Kazon.... Evasive maneuvers everywhere!
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  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    Hehe, I remember my first time using Grav Well on Kazon.... Evasive maneuvers everywhere!
    Kazon also use Aux2Damp which makes one immune to a gravity well (and TBR for that matter)
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    Hehe, I remember my first time using Grav Well on Kazon.... Evasive maneuvers everywhere!
    Kazon are OP. Nerf Aux2Dampeners.


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  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,943 Arc User
    I'm starting to think torpedo boat using an MVAE 4 taco consoles plus 3 graviton consoles....
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