Where are they now? Those wonderful NPC characters.

holyknight22

With the start of the Iconian War, we have been introduce to many new NPC characters. Kagran, Ramir, and others serve to move the plot along, but what happened to all those wonderful NPC's that we fought alongside before the war started? I mean the Federation efforts are being led by Captain Tom Paris, but where are the three other Admiral's beside Tuvok that lead fleets? Where are Jarod, Stass, and Worf during this period? Where the heck is Kurland because we always know when he is here. So here is a list of the dearly ignored, please feel free to add to it or discuss what you think happened to them.

Starfleet - United Federation of Planets
Admiral T'Nae - Commander of SB39 and flys flag from USS Loma Pires
Admiral D'Vak - Commander of Task Force Omega, formerly Commander USS Houston
Admiral Four of Ten - Commander Federation Component TSO and flys flag from USS Victory
Captain Kurland - Commander Deep Space Nine and commands the USS Defiant. Lets you know when he is here.

Klingon Defense Force - Klingon Empire
Ambassador Worf - Gin'tak of the House of Martok, Builder of the Mogh Battlecruiser
Ambassador Stass - Leading Ambassador of the Empire and Commander of KDF Operations out of Deep Space Nine
Captain Koren - Commander of the IKS Bortasqu
Captain Jarod - Leader of the House of Duras. Former commander of the KDF Seventh Fleet and flys flag from IKS Kang.

Republic Militia - Romulan Republic
Subcommander Nadel - Sees military operations under Admiral Kerenek

You could add Admiral Tuvok and Captain Kim to the list; however, I like to think that Tuvok commands Allied Forces in the Delta Quadrant outside of Kagrans control.

woodwhity

With luck Kurland got released from his sorry existence.

rattler2

Kurland is probably still commanding DS9, T'Nae is still at SB39 Sierra, both probably watching for Herald activity around their respective regions...

Ambassador S'tass is probably still at DS9.
Koren is still being a stubborn pain in the butt and commanding the Bortasqu.
Jarod is probably still hunting Tribbles.

Nadel is probably overseeing operations in Tau Dewa.

chiyoumiku

As long as kurland keeps his yap shut while I'm working in the new story arc, we're good.

baddmoonrizin

chiyoumiku wrote: »

As long as kurland keeps his yap shut while I'm working in the new story arc, we're good.

Awww... But it just won't be the same without "Kurland here."

farmallm

Like the rest of us. Waiting for this to end and get a new story going.

holyknight22

farmallm wrote: »

Like the rest of us. Waiting for this to end and get a new story going.

So are you implying that these characters have gone into the Vault until the end of the nuclea....I mean Herald Apocalypse?

protogoth

When her illogical hatred of Romulans and rejection of the principle of IDIC became more than simply blatantly obvious, T'nae was found to be an Undine infiltrator and assassinated by a black ops team sent by Franklin Drake.

potasssium

protogoth wrote: »

When her illogical hatred of Romulans and rejection of the principle of IDIC became more than simply blatantly obvious, T'nae was found to be an Undine infiltrator and assassinated by a black ops team sent by Franklin Drake.

+1

Now can we justify Drake killing Tovan Khev?

mjarbar

protogoth wrote: »

When her illogical hatred of Romulans and rejection of the principle of IDIC became more than simply blatantly obvious, T'nae was found to be an Undine infiltrator and assassinated by a black ops team sent by Franklin Drake.

That actually does raise the question of just what are S31 up to while the war is on going?

coupaholic

One of my favourite characters is Captain K'teng from the KDF mission Alpha. He's probably just fighting on the front lines like any other KDF captain but it would be cool to run into him.

Then there is that random MACO guy you help out in the Dust to Dust mission, in the trenches before reaching the temple. It's only a brief encounter but it's hinted that we may see him again in the future.

brian334

T'Nae was the best character in STO. I especially liked her back when you didn't level so fast. You would do a mission, then bum around for a day or two doing system patrols or whatever you could come up with, and then T'Nae would give you a call with another mission. It was more exciting then than today, where one mission follows the last in a two-week chain that ends abruptly at level 60 when you run out of missions.

gradii

protogoth wrote: »

When her illogical hatred of Romulans and rejection of the principle of IDIC became more than simply blatantly obvious, T'nae was found to be an Undine infiltrator and assassinated by a black ops team sent by Franklin Drake.

I don't hate her THAT much but I don't like her enough to disagree lol.

furiontassadar

mjarbar wrote: »

protogoth wrote: »

When her illogical hatred of Romulans and rejection of the principle of IDIC became more than simply blatantly obvious, T'nae was found to be an Undine infiltrator and assassinated by a black ops team sent by Franklin Drake.

That actually does raise the question of just what are S31 up to while the war is on going?

Being forgotten by the writing team, like the NPCs listed by the OP.

Which is particularly unfortunate, because Section 31 could prove to be a possible workaround for the whole moral quandary that is the Krenim temporal weapon. Starfleet and the rest of the Alliance might not be willing to risk the ramifications that might come from using such a weapon, but Section 31 would likely have no qualms whatsoever. The Devidian arc hinted that Section 31 might already muck about with time when they feel it necessary.

The temporal weapon aside, it's also jarring that, despite the fact that the Iconians supposedly represent the greatest threat the Federation has ever faced, Section 31 is nowhere to be seen. Not even in any of the Tales mini-stories.

mustrumridcully0

furiontassadar wrote: »

mjarbar wrote: »

protogoth wrote: »

When her illogical hatred of Romulans and rejection of the principle of IDIC became more than simply blatantly obvious, T'nae was found to be an Undine infiltrator and assassinated by a black ops team sent by Franklin Drake.

That actually does raise the question of just what are S31 up to while the war is on going?

Being forgotten by the writing team, like the NPCs listed by the OP.

Which is particularly unfortunate, because Section 31 could prove to be a possible workaround for the whole moral quandary that is the Krenim temporal weapon. Starfleet and the rest of the Alliance might not be willing to risk the ramifications that might come from using such a weapon, but Section 31 would likely have no qualms whatsoever. The Devidian arc hinted that Section 31 might already muck about with time when they feel it necessary.

Why not? Section 31 allegedly wants to protect the Federation. Time Travel always may have negative repercussions for that goal, so the risk is pretty much the same for Section 31 than for anyone else in the Alliance or Starfleet.

They might not have qualms about commiting genocide or whatever, but - that is pretty much the most likely option to completely alter everything we know about the galaxy and could easily mean no Federation.



And just because the writing team is not using a particular character or organization doesn't mean they forget that character or organization. It just means they haven't come up with a use for it in the story, and they may not come up for one in the current arc either. Doesn't mean they won't have a story with the character or organization at a later point. But there are only so many significant NPCs you can bring into a single episode.

Star Trek didn't have all that many episodes where Q, Lore, the Borg Queen, Dr. Soong, Khan and Dukat appaered at the same time...

protogoth wrote: »

When her illogical hatred of Romulans and rejection of the principle of IDIC became more than simply blatantly obvious, T'nae was found to be an Undine infiltrator and assassinated by a black ops team sent by Franklin Drake.

I am not convinced it's illogical for her to be very mindful of the Romulans. I am not sure how old she is exactly, but there are plenty of things to make a long-lived individual be very skeptical of the Romulans:
1) Romulans launching an attack on the Federation, violating the Neutral Zone.
2) Romulans conspiring with Klingon and Federation extremists to throw the Klingons and Federation into a war
3) Romulans launching attacks against the Federation's Klingon allies.
4) Romulans attempting to provoke a Federation/Romulan conflict by leaking false information about a secret military installation in Romulan space (thereby also sacrificing/entrapping a respected Romulan Admiral.)
5) Romulans helping orchestrate a Klingon Civil War with the goal of ending the Federation/Klingon alliance and replacing it with a Romulan/Klingon alliance.
6) Romulans attempting to use a Romulan/Vulcan unification movement to take over Vulcan.
7) Launching a failed Sneak Attack together with the Cardassians to destroy the Founders. (Quite possibly making the Dominion War inevitable.)
8) Romulans negoitating a non-agression treaty with the Dominion invaders in the Alpha Quadrant.
9) Arming a Bajoran moon against the will of the Bajoran government under the pretense of building a hospital.


Most "Hero" Starfleet Captains from the TV shows might be more open-minded and be wiling to overlook past behaviour for signs of improvement... But I think there is nothing irrational about her skepticism. And to call it "hatred" might simply be unwarranted.

And Franklin Drake woudn't need to send a black ops team to kill an Undine imposter. Starfleet would take her out if she was unveiled in any case. He might probably send a black ops team to turn her into a (wiling or not) agent.

angrytarg

I don't really care and long for new stories which are hopefully vastly different from those we have right now. In any case, though, I hope S31 gets deleted from the writer's inspirationl folder and franklin drake gets tossed out of the game alongside hurr-durr barbarian Klingons and overly nationalistic Romulans

koraheaglecry

I hope they kill off those characters at the end of this war. They talk about sacrifice and loss...But it seems the Federation, NPCs we know and have worked with, has lost very little to none.

It be nice if at the end of the war Cryptic put a 'memorial' up in ESD or at the Academy listing the names of different NPCs that died during the war.

veryth12

You have to keep in mind that just because there is a war on, does not mean people don't still have to do their job. Kurland, for example, is commander of DS9. So, he's going to be at DS9. During the Dominion war, the crew of DS9 basically stayed on DS9 during the war. There was a brief time they were running abouts like any other ship's crew might, but that was while DS9 was occupied by the Dominion, and so they did not have anything else to do. Once they took the station back, however, everything went back to "normal." The only people you can really wonder about, at the people who are in command of starships... what has the Enterprise been up to during the war?

svindal777

Is Temer still a 'Carpet Stain of Honor' in the Hall of Heroes?

kodachikuno

woodwhity wrote: »

With luck Kurland got released from his sorry existence.

yeah but then his ghost will haunt DS9 and randomly activate communicators and youll hear this holly tinny voice 'kurrrllaaannnd heeeerrreee' or 'thiisssss issss kurrrlaaanndd'

markhawkman

I'm more curious about Zelle. SHE'S STILL HERE! O_O'

Seriously... go to SB39, the Zelle NPC is still standing in T'Nae's office.

holyknight22

I did forget about one of the major Romulan Republic characters. Where is Obisek? Is he hiding in the Vault waiting it out? Is he leading the hunt for Sela? Is he setting up a horrible punch line for a joke?

So Stass, D'Vak, and Obisek walk into Quarks....

lucho80

Because of how they handle VO work, either Borticus goes into the actor's guild or Kurland gets thrown out the airlock.

lucho80

holyknight22 wrote: »

I did forget about one of the major Romulan Republic characters. Where is Obisek? Is he hiding in the Vault waiting it out? Is he leading the hunt for Sela? Is he setting up a horrible punch line for a joke?

So Stass, D'Vak, and Obisek walk into Quarks....

He went into the Reman section of New Romulus which we'll finally see in season 20 - The Andromeda Galaxy

kodachikuno

lucho80 wrote: »

He went into the Reman section of New Romulus which we'll finally see in season 20

optimist... no way itll be that soon

protogoth

holyknight22 wrote: »

I did forget about one of the major Romulan Republic characters. Where is Obisek? Is he hiding in the Vault waiting it out? Is he leading the hunt for Sela? Is he setting up a horrible punch line for a joke?

So Stass, D'Vak, and Obisek walk into Quarks....

In our fleet storyline, Obisek was named Fvillhu (Praetor) of the Khhiu'draao Mol'Rihan (New Romulan Land Army), with the rank of draao'Daeus (Field Marshal), and sits on the Continuing Committee.

farmallm

holyknight22 wrote: »

farmallm wrote: »

Like the rest of us. Waiting for this to end and get a new story going.

So are you implying that these characters have gone into the Vault until the end of the nuclea....I mean Herald Apocalypse?

Since the Iconian War is a joke. They all got tired waiting for action. And went to Risa.

shevet

I suspect Ja'rod is waiting for his redundancy notice.... It looked (to me) like he was being set up for some future Klingon-based story arc where he would challenge J'mpok for leadership of the Empire - but now it looks like there will be no more KDF-specific content, so that's out.

The mission where we first got to meet him (in the old Romulan arc) has been deleted. You can bet that the tribble-hunt mission will be among the casualties when Cryptic guts - err, I mean improves, of course - the Cardassian arc. All that will be left of Ja'rod is an optional objective in an STF. And people will say, "'Protect the Kang - what for?"

Zelle is another kettle of fish. Since the big reveal about her was also a casualty of the Romulan rewrite, she could have any role you like to think. She could be the real Admiral Zelle, now, or the world's least mobile and least useful Undine infiltrator. Or she could just be a waxwork or something. Who knows?

bernatk

farmallm wrote: »

Since the Iconian War is a joke. They all got tired waiting for action. And went to Risa.

erm.... me too lol...

markhawkman

shevet wrote: »

I suspect Ja'rod is waiting for his redundancy notice.... It looked (to me) like he was being set up for some future Klingon-based story arc where he would challenge J'mpok for leadership of the Empire - but now it looks like there will be no more KDF-specific content, so that's out.

The mission where we first got to meet him (in the old Romulan arc) has been deleted. You can bet that the tribble-hunt mission will be among the casualties when Cryptic guts - err, I mean improves, of course - the Cardassian arc. All that will be left of Ja'rod is an optional objective in an STF. And people will say, "'Protect the Kang - what for?"

Zelle is another kettle of fish. Since the big reveal about her was also a casualty of the Romulan rewrite, she could have any role you like to think. She could be the real Admiral Zelle, now, or the world's least mobile and least useful Undine infiltrator. Or she could just be a waxwork or something. Who knows?

To be fair, most people had no clue BEFORE the revamp either.

duncanidaho11

What about Tarkaram? He had more character in two minutes than we get from most story arcs. And you would think that the task force founded on studying ancient Iconian/Solonae technology would have had SOMETHING to do with stopping said Iconians.

But nooooo, we had to revert to TV fan-service instead of striving manfully out into the world of fiction and developing a self-consistent video game.

But hey, that's what the foundry's for. :P