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Heavy Escort Carrier- yet another fail
drakethewhite
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First they butchered the Excelsior with a extremely poor BOFF layout and the poor choice of a Command Hybrid instead of Pilot.
Now they release a T6 Heavy Escort Carrier, again with a poor BOFF layout (the hybrid seat should have been tactical/pilot and not Engineer pilot). Worse they passed on the chance to introduce it together with a new specialty- one for enhancing fighters in combat (CAG- commander air group is the term in today's world).
Given the extremely sloppy writing in the latest FE releases, they now can't even provide ships good enough to spend money on, even ones that were originally on my 'must buy' list.
Very unsettling and now there's no end in sight or anything to look forward to from what I can tell.
Now they release a T6 Heavy Escort Carrier, again with a poor BOFF layout (the hybrid seat should have been tactical/pilot and not Engineer pilot). Worse they passed on the chance to introduce it together with a new specialty- one for enhancing fighters in combat (CAG- commander air group is the term in today's world).
Given the extremely sloppy writing in the latest FE releases, they now can't even provide ships good enough to spend money on, even ones that were originally on my 'must buy' list.
Very unsettling and now there's no end in sight or anything to look forward to from what I can tell.
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Your father was captain of a starship for twelve minutes. He saved 800 lives, including your mother's, and yours.
I dare you to do better.
can I haz yer stuffs?
It all depends on how well you want to fly. By working with what the ship offers. Just because you can't fly her by refusal or can't adapt. Don't mean its a fail of a ship.
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Here we go again. This certainly advances the thread.
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l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
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Me too, what do you type in at the exchange to find the manuels to make a bridge officer a pilot?
Just like that
Specialization Qualification - Pilot
Anyways, you have a Lt Universal to slot into ENG if you do devote build space for Pilot BOFF abilities on the T6 Akira. Problem solved.
PADDs to teach your BOFFs Specializations are fairly inexpensive now on the exchange. Even Pilot, the newest one, has gone down considerably.
As for the BOFF layouts, those were the big difference makers between the 3 ships. IMO, I rank the usefulness of those layouts like this:
1. KDF Raptor HEC
2. Akira HEC
3. Ar'kif HEC
The Akira's BOFF layout isn't bad. It's not that great either and actually very uninspired. It's a fairly balanced out layout but you can't specialize into something hardcore.
The Ar'kif's layout is the worst. Two words: False Choice. If you don't use that Universal for ENG, you're leaving a serious weakness in build durability that most STO players can't deal with. Some can survive with next to no ENG capability. But the average STO gamer can't. Why do you think there were so many complaints about surviving in a T5 Defiant and Kumari?
Then there's the KDF one. Fabulous, flexible BOFF layout. You can take that Universal into TAC, ENG, or SCI and you will not leave any serious build gaps.
This is a rare case of the KDF actually getting the better ship between the factions in a similar release.
Every single ship they release nowadays is "great". There is no much margin to fail. Thats the reason we look for tiny differences, difference that will make you to buy the ship or not. That difference could be the one that makes that ship more than great. The only thin i know for sure is that the kdf raptor is a total failure. But i guess we are all used to rommie and kdf failures.
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While I agree with the op that the escort carriers are a little underwhelming this meme was great. ;-)
ESCORT CARRIERS -- wikipedea:
The escort carrier or escort aircraft carrier (hull classification symbol CVE), also called a "jeep carrier" or "baby flattop" in the United States Navy (USN) or "Woolworth Carrier" by the Royal Navy, was a small and slow type of aircraft carrier used by the Royal Navy, the Imperial Japanese Navy and Imperial Japanese Army Air Force, and the United States Navy in World War II. They were typically half the length and a third the displacement of larger fleet carriers. While they were slower, carried fewer planes and were less well armed and armored, escort carriers were cheaper and could be built quickly, which was their principal advantage.
Among their crews, CVE was sarcastically said to stand for "Combustible, Vulnerable, and Expendable". Magazine protection was minimal in comparison to fleet aircraft carriers.[9] HMS Avenger was sunk within minutes by a single torpedo, and HMS Dasher exploded from undetermined causes with very heavy loss of life. Three escort carriers—USS St. Lo, Ommaney Bay and Bismarck Sea—were destroyed by kamikazes, the largest ships to meet such a fate.
In summary, EXACTLY what I was expecting from Cryptic when I first read about the announcement on this latest release; I mean, what did you expect? A tier-6 with an "I ALWAYS WIN" starship mastery trait? For an Escort Carrier?
LOL LOL LOL
They both have the same hps, the same shields, the same turn rate.
But what the Qa'tel Flight Deck Raptor has over the Atila Heavy Cruiser is that the Qa'tel can cloak, and the Atila can't, and that the Qa'tel has a Lt. Com Universal slot where the Atila has to settle for a Lt. Tac slot which has both less flexiblity and is a straight up weaker slot, only Lt.
Honestly I think it'll be interesting to be able to launch fighters, then cloak and watch my fighters on they're own.
Only thats not possible. Nowadays there is a bug that makes you uncloak if your fighters are in the sight of your enemy. The first time we got a cloak capable pseudo carrier and it is a raptor.. lol, so great xD.
This makes the Qa'tel potentially the tankiest Raptor in the KDF, by a fair margin, and still has lots of fire power.
Or you can go a different way as the Qa'tel has a huge amount of flexiblity.
You can build a DHC ship, a Torpedo boat, a FAW beam boat ect... with this ship, a boarder line science ship by placing a sci in the Lt. Com Uni seat.
I can trap enemies with Elite Orion Inceptors, rob and blow them up with Elite Orion Slavers, Board and Sabotage them with Armoured Maurading Force Shuttles, drain they're shields with Orion Tachyon Drones, Shield Heal/Tank Shield Rapair Shuttles, Burn them With Elite Scorpians, and I have the flexible Boffs setup to back them up, plus a cloak.
Seriously I can have 8 tac/2 sci/3 enigeering abilities, 8 tac/2 Sci/3 Pilot abilties or a mix pilot/enigeering abilities, 5 Tac/6 Eng/2 Sci, 5 Tac/3 Pilot/3 Eng/2 Sci, 5 Tac/3 Eng/5 Sci, 5 Tac/3 Pilot/5 Sci. I don't think I missed anything.
Pretty obvious there huh captain?
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I agree with this. ANY cruiser really doesn't fit the idea of a Pilot ship as Cruisers are naturally slower. Pilot Spec is geared a bit more towards Escort style ships. Command fits better with Cruisers.
And before anyone says "But Captain Sulu"... Was Sulu at the helm of the Excelsior? No. He was commanding her. The only time there was a Sulu at the helm of an Excelsior class was his daughter on the Enterprise-B.
As to the OP... If you don't like the new ships, don't buy the new ships. They aren't going to just release a new Spec Tree without announcing one just because of one ship. And I would see a Spec Tree geared more towards carriers possible if we got more 2 hanger Full Carriers like the Atrox and Vo'Quv, and the Romulans got a full 2 hanger Carrier of their own. small pocket carriers like what they just released... they don't warrent a full on Spec Tree by themselves.
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I think a lot of players were expecting the t6 excelsior to have a pilot specialization because there were already several command cruisers and Intel cruisers so that would make the new excel unique. Also the excelsior was, until the release of the avenger, the most maneuverable fed cruiser.
I agree with your statement here. (only fed release, kdf is quiet allright)
My reaction is just different you know. Instead of “Aww! I love the Akira but they have ruined the tier 6 version” it comes down to “YES! If they even manage to mess up my most favourite Star Trek ship so I don’t get it, there is really no reason to waste 30 bucks on this horribly broken game ever again”.
Bad ship releases are a cause for joy within me by now. That’s sad but that’s just the way it is.
Edit: You know I got the DR operations pack, participated in the JHSS rip off. I’m close to done with new ships and this game makes it easy. 50k plus DPS record of mine in yesterdays ISA with the free Nandi with lots of room for further improvement, ground toons get the veteran destroyer and I even down-graded my Kling to his old tier 5-U recluse with double performance results compared to the tier 6 stuff he flew in between.
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