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Hello everyone
Last year MGM announced that they are rebooting Stargate. Do you think it is possible to continue the series of Stargate SG-1, Stargate Atlantis and Stargate Universe? I know it was planned for movies for SG-1, SGA and SGU but apparently they are not going to happen. Here is the petition for SGU https://www.change.org/p/ted-sarandos-save-stargate-universe.
Last year MGM announced that they are rebooting Stargate. Do you think it is possible to continue the series of Stargate SG-1, Stargate Atlantis and Stargate Universe? I know it was planned for movies for SG-1, SGA and SGU but apparently they are not going to happen. Here is the petition for SGU https://www.change.org/p/ted-sarandos-save-stargate-universe.
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SG-1 had an awesome run, and Atlantis still had potential for more seasons after S5 because of the Asgard in Pegasus. SG:U needed to try NOT being Battlestar Galactica with a Stargate.
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Atlantis was awesome, and still had plenty of potential for more seasons. Or movies. I would love to see a return to Pegasus.
SGU. I watched the first episode. I had to stop when they broke their own basic, most fundamental rule of Stargate. The point of origin is where you are. They used Earth as the point of origin. They were not on earth. What the hell? Sorry, but if you can't obay your own, most crucial rule of the show, then you clearly are not interested in furthering the franchise.
As for a reboot, I would love to see what the guys behind the original film had up their sleeves. I believe they envisioned a trilogy, with the second part being based on Arthurian legend. Ironically, the route the Ori went in SG1. I think they said the third part would be Babylonian. But not sure on that part.
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There is that, however if I remember correctly they did hadwave an explanation by saying that the 9 symbol address wasn't a set of coordinates, bit was a combination lock to access one specific Gate. While I agree that it does break the rules when it comes to gate addresses, the Destiny Gate is always moving so using the basic coordinate system would never work. Local gate travel works by identifying 6 points, and charting a course to the intersection of the six points with the Point of Origin. Intergalactic adds an extra symbol for a distance calculation. The 9 Symbol address was probably a passcode. However... the Icarus gate should never have had the symbol for Earth on it anyways. All gates have a unique symbol to identify the Point of Origin, meaning the Earth gate should have been the ONLY gate capable of dialing Destiny. Which in itself may be a problem as Earth did have the Antarctic gate that had a different symbol... which was retconned the next time we saw it...
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It was Destiny and the Seed ships that mapped the initial gate network then carried onto create new networks in the galaxies they travelled through.
The Destiny gate is the oldest of the gates, we know this because their is no DHD near the Destiny model of gate but it does follow the basic rules of it in range of six gates in it's radius, the crew even used it to gate onto a alternate Destiny
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And I don't think it was the seed ships that made the Milky Way Network, as the Milky Way gates are much more durable. Its possible that the seed ships did start the Milky Way Network, but they were later replaced with the design we're more familiar with. The Pegasus gates are I think the newest version.
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Then there's the fact that one of the ancients made a gate out of junk he found in Carter's basement, this gate had no chevrons or glyphs at all. Also some of the gates just had different symbols because they could. Also.... it's like using a different keyboard. It was a plot point that you did in fact need a computer capable of inputting the point of origin glyph for Earth. Not necessarily a gate with that symbol inscribed, but a dialing computer that had that symbol in it.
Actually the point-of-origin thing seems to have been a way that the ancients used to let the gate know what type of address was being used(6, 7 or, 8 and the point of origin).
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But yea... computers might be able to put in symbols that aren't actually on the gate. Might even be easier on a Pegasus gate, but I don't know if they are capable of dialing Destiny.
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I always thought some gates must have repeated symbols. For example, picturing that cube Jackson drew when explaining it, certain planets were probably used constantly as the corners of the cube to narrow down the sector block of the galaxy for the gate to make an address. So it would make sense for some symbols to be repeated, like having Earth on multiple gates. Because Earth was one of the most common used points for the cube. Did we ever see the symbols for a gate travel from not earth to not earth? I only remember seeing addresses when leaving earth.
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And I believe in the pilot episode of SG-1 Apophis did dial the Abydos gate to return to Chulak, and SG-1 was able to follow because one of the survivors saw the symbols. And if I remember correctly, the other symbols were not specific planets, but star constellations as seen from Earth.
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But as noted, the glyph for Earth's point of origin shouldn't have been on the gate. But this was far enough in the series that they could have used a remote dialing device for that. Those things are Tau'ri build computers that can input pretty much any glyph into the gate.
But yeah, non-point-of-origin glyphs are star formations of some sort. I'm not really sure they're constellations in the traditional sense.
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http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Glyph
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Except this falls apart when you remember that the Alpha gate, the one with the 'Earth' point of origin, wasn't actually from Earth. It was brought from some other planet to Earth by the Goa'uld. (Ergo, they would have had to use the Beta gate's point of origin symbol.)
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Though with the fickle way the Stargate network works, one could argue that it's the result of the automated update program built into the gates changing the symbol for Earth.
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compare: http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Glyph
with: http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Point_of_origin
Chulak's point of origin is the same as glyph 7. Icarus Base used #30. Klorel's Hatak used #24, The medieval planet used #15. Melia used #11. Pangar used #18, P2X-416, and Tagrea used #25. P34-353J used #37. P3R-233 used #21. P3X-562 used #14. P4M-328 used #33. P7S-441 used #29. Tollan used #2. P3X-99 and the planet from shades of grey used glyph 23.
Actually, most "point of origin" glyphs seen in the show weren't unique. Only four were actually special glyphs not seen on every gate; Abydos, Alpha and Beta gate, and P7J-989. But.... the address for Cimmeria apparently uses the Abydos PoO for chevron 6, and Dar Eshkalon uses it for chevron 2, Madrona uses it for 5, Orban uses it for 3, P2J-3X1 uses it for 5, P44-000 uses it for 3, P5F-5T2 uses it for 5, P9J-333 used it as 1, PX9-757 as 3. The address for Eskal used the PoO for Alpha Gate as chevron 2, M4C-862 used it for 6, P26-00J uses it for 4, PY3-948 as 5, Vyus as 2. So only the Beta gate, and P7J-989 PoO symbols are unique to them.
To make things more fun, PAS-A81 apparently used the same PoO as Alpha Gate.
for a list of addresses seen in the show: http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Stargate_Network
So... yeah, there's too many production inconsistencies with Stargate addresses to figure out how they "should" work.
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isn't that what constellations are? clusters of stars that ancient humans made patterns out of?
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Daniel Jackson was brought in to decipher the symbols on the gate in the orignial movie, and discovered that one of them was the star constellation Orion after looking at an airman's newspaper that showed Orion.
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What I have to wonder about is whether maybe Jackson's discovery was more coincidence than design? If the symbols were meant to represent groups of stars, then you can find matches just by looking at random parts of the sky.
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That's what I'm trying to say. The point of origin is unique to a planet, but not a gate. Which is why gates can be moved from one planet to another. It's like a telephone. You can have a telephone in a house on the landline, with it's own unique number, but parts of that number are used in various ways to dial another telephone in another house (like glyphs on the stargate). The point of origin is like the Caller ID. You can take a phone from another house and plug it into your landline. Then, when you dial out, the original Caller ID still appears despite having a new phone. Like how a Stargate's point of origin glyph changes depending on what planet it's on.
Of course, this is all for SG1. The movie handled some things differently and certain things were fudged for the series, so they can't be completely reconciled.
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