Could care less about DPS...better to think and strategize rather than to have a one "click" victory button...are we getting close to the "I win" button? guess might be closer than we think
They could connect it to a system like the one that added the purple delta after the names of deltalts during the delta event.
As u got higher DPS it would show the number, like 5k, 10k, 20k etc after ur name and also when ur k got higher it would change colors like a brown color for 10k and then a metal silver color for higher and a gold and then if u got it really high like make it animated flashing colors and maybe the top person gets every color in the rainbow pulsing and if u got more k then not just have the flashing colors but also make the font much bigger though and give special titles to go along with the colors and numbers like DPS master or samurai or or wizard and if u got high enough k for it to make you have the flashing numbers and the huge numbers font and the title of wizard then u could get some special clothing like a master chain for master and a samurai armor for samurai and a wizards robes for the top title which could be wizard!
all i would see if this title proves you have this and that, it would be a freaking e-peen contest over who has the best title. it would be encouraging elistism. no thanks.
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I still think it would be hilarious if as a "side effect" of "earning" the title, you get lifetime banned from pugging and have to go premade every time if you want to queue. And any new toons you may create in the future, because surely you're so awesome you can get to 100000 DPS with no help, right? Part of me almost likes that idea because we will never have to hear whining about PUGs from the DPSers again.
...of course realistically that would just accelerate the downward spiral of the public queues, so I would never seriously recommend it. Still, I find it amusing to imagine the reactions of DPSers realizing what happened.
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They could connect it to a system like the one that added the purple delta after the names of deltalts during the delta event.
As u got higher DPS it would show the number, like 5k, 10k, 20k etc after ur name and also when ur k got higher it would change colors like a brown color for 10k and then a metal silver color for higher and a gold and then if u got it really high like make it animated flashing colors and maybe the top person gets every color in the rainbow pulsing and if u got more k then not just have the flashing colors but also make the font much bigger though and give special titles to go along with the colors and numbers like DPS master or samurai or or wizard and if u got high enough k for it to make you have the flashing numbers and the huge numbers font and the title of wizard then u could get some special clothing like a master chain for master and a samurai armor for samurai and a wizards robes for the top title which could be wizard!
This is too childish..not for the serious gamer IMO
i dont know why so many people are hung up about the idea and referring to 'epeens'.
its not about epeens or bragging, its simply pragmatism. associate the dps with an accolade and title and then youre all set to gate advanced and elite queues from underperforming toons. and why do you think the choice of wearing the title would cause issues in-game? did 'kirks protege' cause a massive upswell in elitism?
the only people i would expect to get upset about such a system are those that rely on getting carried through the advanced queues.
The problem with DPS titles is that DPS is situational in terms of time to completion so there's no real consistency. Not to mention every time the game changed, it would have to be reset (as shown by the resets the league has done). So really, I don't think that's something Cryptic would ever want to implement since people would start crying about it changing, or not changing etc. DPS meter might be nice but really, that just gives the message that the game truly is all about DPS. I'd vote no to that as well.
i dont know why so many people are hung up about the idea and referring to 'epeens'.
its not about epeens or bragging, its simply pragmatism. associate the dps with an accolade and title and then youre all set to gate advanced and elite queues from underperforming toons. and why do you think the choice of wearing the title would cause issues in-game? did 'kirks protege' cause a massive upswell in elitism?
the only people i would expect to get upset about such a system are those that rely on getting carried through the advanced queues.
It's an activity that isn't officially tracked in the game and run 100% on the outside. The rankings, records, all kept track on the outside. Even the parser is not part of the game. And this rates having an in-game title?
Edit: If all this stuff were actually officially part of the game, then this would be an entirely different matter. But it isn't.
It's an activity that isn't officially tracked in the game and run 100% on the outside. The rankings, records, all kept track on the outside. Even the parser is not part of the game. And this rates having an in-game title?
Edit: If all this stuff were actually officially part of the game, then this would be an entirely different matter. But it isn't.
the combatlog is the important bit, and it is part of the game.
i dont know why so many people are hung up about the idea and referring to 'epeens'.
its not about epeens or bragging, its simply pragmatism. associate the dps with an accolade and title and then youre all set to gate advanced and elite queues from underperforming toons. and why do you think the choice of wearing the title would cause issues in-game? did 'kirks protege' cause a massive upswell in elitism?
the only people i would expect to get upset about such a system are those that rely on getting carried through the advanced queues.
First off, you think an accolade is going to keep people from "underperforming" in an STF? Obviously, you haven't seen my 6k Vesta...
Which could fly with at least the "DPS Bronze" / 10k "accolade" missions because I'm "in" that channel (accolade) group after making a run with my "cheesy" Mk XI Recluse w/advanced mesh weavers.
So I'll gladly keep getting carried through STFs...
And if I need that 30k accolade? Trying it with my Mk XIVs and/or finding a "real nice" nanny to boost my recluse - heck, I could just slot a BFaW III / AP-B Tac into my Cmdr Uni (cause I'm normally way too addicted to my Grav Well III) and well, 30k is an easy day for me.
Then I'll be back into my 6k Vesta running with ya all...
And you forgot how much "Kirk's Protege" was the "conversation stopper" back in the day. Remember, the whole "<flaunts title> Obviously I know what I'm talking about. Do you have this accolade? No?..."
Yeah, it didn't "promote" elitism. It was the key to elitism, back in the day...
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DPS folks aren't the problem. As much as we want tanks and mages, those who can go in for the kill have their place.
PVPers also aren't the problem. Some of us like to blame them for all from nerfing SSIII to global warming. I don't.
DPS trolls assume because they can do X0,000 DPS they have the right to ban all who don't. They don't challenge anyone to improve their game, and they certainly don't offer any helpful tips to that effect. They use the chat box to type "GTFO of advanced and stop ruining my runs, you f**kin nOObs"
It's an activity that isn't officially tracked in the game and run 100% on the outside. The rankings, records, all kept track on the outside. Even the parser is not part of the game. And this rates having an in-game title?
Edit: If all this stuff were actually officially part of the game, then this would be an entirely different matter. But it isn't.
the combatlog is the important bit, and it is part of the game.
I'm not aware of a program officially part of STO where it breaks down combatlog info without using some external program.
I'm not aware of a program officially part of STO where it gives DPS performance values that are thrown around, i.e. 10k bracket, 20k, etc.
STO does not maintain any sort of official ladder. Not ingame. Not on Cryptic's official STO website. Nothing. Not in PVE. And definitely not in PVP, and the PVP crowd had been asking for that years and years ago.
im not sure what your point is. sto generates the log, and sto could obviously be made to parse it. sto could even store the log in memory and parse it from there, negating the need for a log at all. i dont know what the dps league, brackets, or external parsers have to do with this.
It's an activity that isn't officially tracked in the game and run 100% on the outside. The rankings, records, all kept track on the outside. Even the parser is not part of the game. And this rates having an in-game title?
Edit: If all this stuff were actually officially part of the game, then this would be an entirely different matter. But it isn't.
the combatlog is the important bit, and it is part of the game.
I'm not aware of a program officially part of STO where it breaks down combatlog info without using some external program.
I'm not aware of a program officially part of STO where it gives DPS performance values that are thrown around, i.e. 10k bracket, 20k, etc.
STO does not maintain any sort of official ladder. Not ingame. Not on Cryptic's official STO website. Nothing. Not in PVE. And definitely not in PVP, and the PVP crowd had been asking for that years and years ago.
Shall I keep going?
The mechanics are in game though (how else could the rankings at the end of a Crystalline Catastrophe be generated?) but it isn't applied to other STFs. A similar system on other STFs that grant extra rewards to the instance's top performers would be nice, but not a general bracketing of the game population as the OP suggests.
im not sure what your point is. sto generates the log, and sto could obviously be made to parse it. sto could even store the log in memory and parse it from there, negating the need for a log at all. i dont know what the dps league, brackets, or external parsers have to do with this.
The point is Cryptic doesn't care, as a result, STO doesn't care. They've never cared for it in PVP. They've never cared for it in PVE. You get the combatlog. That's it. What you do with that is on your own. Whatever a community does with it is on their own.
The point is Cryptic doesn't care, as a result, STO doesn't care. They've never cared for it in PVP. They've never cared for it in PVE. You get the combatlog. That's it. What you do with that is on your own. Whatever a community does with it is on their own.
oh, i dont actually think cryptic is going to do this. it was simply a game of 'wouldnt it be nice'
A very good idea, I think. It's sad that some people in this game are so insecure about themselves that a little thing like a title can get them worked up. We don't really care if you 'don't care about dps,' some of us do, and we think this is a top notch suggestion.
I'm just thinking of those idiots that lagged the STF's just so no one can duplicate a "record" run.
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all i would see if this title proves you have this and that, it would be a freaking e-peen contest over who has the best title. it would be encouraging elistism. no thanks.
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...of course realistically that would just accelerate the downward spiral of the public queues, so I would never seriously recommend it. Still, I find it amusing to imagine the reactions of DPSers realizing what happened.
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This is too childish..not for the serious gamer IMO
its not about epeens or bragging, its simply pragmatism. associate the dps with an accolade and title and then youre all set to gate advanced and elite queues from underperforming toons. and why do you think the choice of wearing the title would cause issues in-game? did 'kirks protege' cause a massive upswell in elitism?
the only people i would expect to get upset about such a system are those that rely on getting carried through the advanced queues.
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It's an activity that isn't officially tracked in the game and run 100% on the outside. The rankings, records, all kept track on the outside. Even the parser is not part of the game. And this rates having an in-game title?
Edit: If all this stuff were actually officially part of the game, then this would be an entirely different matter. But it isn't.
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And it does an awful job at that...
First off, you think an accolade is going to keep people from "underperforming" in an STF? Obviously, you haven't seen my 6k Vesta...
Which could fly with at least the "DPS Bronze" / 10k "accolade" missions because I'm "in" that channel (accolade) group after making a run with my "cheesy" Mk XI Recluse w/advanced mesh weavers.
So I'll gladly keep getting carried through STFs...
And if I need that 30k accolade? Trying it with my Mk XIVs and/or finding a "real nice" nanny to boost my recluse - heck, I could just slot a BFaW III / AP-B Tac into my Cmdr Uni (cause I'm normally way too addicted to my Grav Well III) and well, 30k is an easy day for me.
Then I'll be back into my 6k Vesta running with ya all...
And you forgot how much "Kirk's Protege" was the "conversation stopper" back in the day. Remember, the whole "<flaunts title> Obviously I know what I'm talking about. Do you have this accolade? No?..."
Yeah, it didn't "promote" elitism. It was the key to elitism, back in the day...
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PVPers also aren't the problem. Some of us like to blame them for all from nerfing SSIII to global warming. I don't.
DPS trolls assume because they can do X0,000 DPS they have the right to ban all who don't. They don't challenge anyone to improve their game, and they certainly don't offer any helpful tips to that effect. They use the chat box to type "GTFO of advanced and stop ruining my runs, you f**kin nOObs"
I'm not aware of a program officially part of STO where it breaks down combatlog info without using some external program.
I'm not aware of a program officially part of STO where it gives DPS performance values that are thrown around, i.e. 10k bracket, 20k, etc.
STO does not maintain any sort of official ladder. Not ingame. Not on Cryptic's official STO website. Nothing. Not in PVE. And definitely not in PVP, and the PVP crowd had been asking for that years and years ago.
Shall I keep going?
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The mechanics are in game though (how else could the rankings at the end of a Crystalline Catastrophe be generated?) but it isn't applied to other STFs. A similar system on other STFs that grant extra rewards to the instance's top performers would be nice, but not a general bracketing of the game population as the OP suggests.
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The point is Cryptic doesn't care, as a result, STO doesn't care. They've never cared for it in PVP. They've never cared for it in PVE. You get the combatlog. That's it. What you do with that is on your own. Whatever a community does with it is on their own.
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I'm just thinking of those idiots that lagged the STF's just so no one can duplicate a "record" run.
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