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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    farmallm wrote: »

    I would take the Typhoon over the new Fed ship. At least it looks like a ship and not scrap bolted / welded together. This is why I'm liking the Concord. At least it looks like a good ship and similar to the Typhoon. My choice over a new Fed BC. It will be the far better Concord.

    Well, your preference aside.. the Typhoon will not be coming. I know a lot of people wanted it, I was one of them.. but most of us have just accepted that it's not going to happen. The Presidio/Concorde/Geneva are far more detailed models then the Typhoon was anyway, the Typhoon would have needed some pretty hefty re-skinning before it would have been a playable ship.

    I'm going to have to see the T6 Avenger in game to determine my exact opinion.. in that picture on the site it looks pretty ugly.
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  • chiyoumikuchiyoumiku Member Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    Have to say, I might grab the Arbiter Class over my planned Pathfinder. As for the Mogh's T6 version, it looks like it rann head irst into a tree trunk.
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  • angarus1angarus1 Member Posts: 684 Arc User
    Hot dang, that Arbiter is overdesigned.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    angarus1 wrote: »
    Hot dang, that Arbiter is overdesigned.

    Better than the Lego Brick that is the Avenger.
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  • antiquesroadshowantiquesroadshow Member Posts: 227 Arc User
    The Fed and Klingon ships are ugly as hell
  • crm14916crm14916 Member Posts: 1,535 Arc User
    The Arbiter's saucer section makes me want a Tier 6 Star Cruiser.

    Oh heck yeah!!
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  • kirimuffinkirimuffin Member Posts: 695 Arc User
    So this trait looks kind of ridiculously good, and I think I'll be wanting the ship pack just for that.

    But man, that Arbiter-class is one fugly-looking ship. I'll be changing it to the Avenger skin the second I get it.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,008 Arc User
    The Arbiter-type is not exactly pretty, but it looks okay-ish (considering the Avenger before it). The T6 Mogh, however, is terrible. TERRIBLE. I don't even... 0391e583591cb8712519f46629140571.gif
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  • farshorefarshore Member Posts: 353 Arc User
    I like the T6 trait, but I have enough cruisers.
  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    I like the trait, but yeah, the ships (Fed & KDF) have the looks only the designer could love..

    Will wait for a sale, ship burn out is for realz....
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  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    Well, one thing is for sure. Those new ships certainly layed waste to my eyesight.... :p
  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    farmallm wrote: »

    I would take the Typhoon over the new Fed ship. At least it looks like a ship and not scrap bolted / welded together. This is why I'm liking the Concord. At least it looks like a good ship and similar to the Typhoon. My choice over a new Fed BC. It will be the far better Concord.

    Well, your preference aside.. the Typhoon will not be coming. I know a lot of people wanted it, I was one of them.. but most of us have just accepted that it's not going to happen. The Presidio/Concorde/Geneva are far more detailed models then the Typhoon was anyway, the Typhoon would have needed some pretty hefty re-skinning before it would have been a playable ship.

    I'm going to have to see the T6 Avenger in game to determine my exact opinion.. in that picture on the site it looks pretty ugly.

    They could make bring it up to spec if they work on it. Plus with some variations. They could be phasing out the ship, since they are using other ships. However it might come back in the future who knows. I'm not accepting it won't never show up. I still will keep the faith it will. Until then the Concorde is the best option we have at the time.
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  • lordbrowaruslordbrowarus Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Kurak in Polish language means c**k or chicken lol
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,502 Arc User
    that explains why the dilithium exchange jumped 11 points overnight
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  • litchy74litchy74 Member Posts: 417 Arc User
    One quick question about the costume unlock, they've stated you can use the T5 costumes but I also have the fleet version, can I use the Fleet T5 costume unlock as well?
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  • bughunter357bughunter357 Member Posts: 588 Arc User
    hypl wrote: »
    It's gonna be really funny when T7 comes out, and they do this yet again... :D

    not going to happen there is no reason to go that high in tier for ships just like if they ever raised the lvl cap again what would be the purpose and what ranks would there be super fleet admiral no again not going to happen.

  • greyhame3greyhame3 Member Posts: 914 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    I think I'll stick with the Nandi and Andromeda.
    hypl wrote: »
    It's gonna be really funny when T7 comes out, and they do this yet again... :D

    not going to happen there is no reason to go that high in tier for ships just like if they ever raised the lvl cap again what would be the purpose and what ranks would there be super fleet admiral no again not going to happen.

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  • drakethewhitedrakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    I can see these being brought for the trait, can't say the same for the looks :/

    Indeed. The trait is very tempting and frankly looks OP, however I'm doing really well with the set of traits I have now. So there's no rush here.
  • martinihenriemartinihenrie Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    I can't but join the chorus about the Fed and Kink ships, nasty, but the Rommy one is nice.

    It's a shame as these were the only T6 ships I was waiting for, the other types left me a tad flat and considering I'm not a power player who has to Pokemon all the ships i feel a tad let down.

    Surely they must look to evolving ship designs, but this evolution looks like the checked out pre school colouring in books and ignored most of the other sources. A crying shame, YMMV, aesthetics are a personal thing so some may love them, just not me.
  • vivenneanthonyvivenneanthony Member Posts: 1,278 Arc User
    I want to know the design logic behind because it looks like if the goal was fugly. They hit the mark 2 out of 3. Explain the fuglyness.
  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    sqwished wrote: »
    themartian wrote: »
    The Arbiter is uglier than the new forums, so there's that.

    You wont get any argument from me on that one. The best looking one out the bunch is the Romulan one. Although the starship trait sounds interesting and might be worth a look. But 3000 zen for something that might not perform as well as it sounds or might be out performed by my current set of traits. It'll have to wait I'm afraid, especially given how butt ugly the ships are.

    I think I find myself in that post as well.

    Next lock box is due and so are 3 more escorts. I wait that one out easily.
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  • bendalekbendalek Member Posts: 1,781 Arc User
    I see a sad trend here ... First we got the gawd awful "Squashed Origami Chicken" Romulan Pilot Ships, the "Flavored Cracker Biscuit" Fed Pilot Ships and the "wuht tha?" Klingon pilot ships ... Not to mention the "D7 run over by a steamroller" Qib Intel cruiser <shudder> after which we go the "WTF?" with the backwards flying Nandi and now we have the new Fed and KDF Battlecruisers. <sigh>

    And TBH, the only reason why the Romulan one looks good, is because it's essentially a clone of the Mogai/Valdore, which was already a shmexy looking ship :) ... Yippee for small miracles I guess.

    Ship design and aesthetics seems to have taken a downwards turn lately for sure.
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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    bendalek wrote: »

    Ship design and aesthetics seems to have taken a downwards turn lately for sure.

    Most defiantly. Either Cryptic is setting some new folks at ship designing task which have a hard time keeping up or it’s all part of the marketing philosophy. In best case you are going to buy:

    - 4 Tier 6 ships for the traits you like to have
    - 1 Tier 6 ship you actually like to fly and end up but with but with an unfitting trait so you can use the other 4 on it
    - 1 Tier 5 predecessor variant of that ship to get it looking good.

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  • drakethewhitedrakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    bendalek wrote: »

    Ship design and aesthetics seems to have taken a downwards turn lately for sure.

    Most defiantly. Either Cryptic is setting some new folks at ship designing task which have a hard time keeping up or it’s all part of the marketing philosophy. In best case you are going to buy:

    - 4 Tier 6 ships for the traits you like to have
    - 1 Tier 6 ship you actually like to fly and end up but with but with an unfitting trait so you can use the other 4 on it
    - 1 Tier 5 predecessor variant of that ship to get it looking good.

    For 17k zen you get all your gaming and trek heart desires…

    The specialization traits might handle one or more of the Ship Traits you want, but that's a nitpick. This is indeed the truth of the matter and has been something I planned since they started the re-release of T5 ships as T6.

    Then to add insult to injury, if a new trait comes that is 'must have", you have to replace older purchased trait and the cost of course goes up. Heaven help you if it needs a set of different traits in addition to work at its best. That is the nature of the trait system that has been put in place.
  • goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
    New ships are a revenue stream. They're going to pump them out with little regard for aesthetics.
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  • chipg7chipg7 Member Posts: 1,577 Arc User
    bendalek wrote: »
    I see a sad trend here ... First we got the gawd awful "Squashed Origami Chicken" Romulan Pilot Ships...

    Those were actually based on Scimitar concept art for ST: Nemesis. Especially with the Tac and Eng variants, you can see the inspiration in the unique wing structure and the sharp lines.

    With very few exceptions, Cryptic knows how to design great-looking warbirds.
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  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,414 Arc User
    Either Cryptic is setting some new folks at ship designing task which have a hard time keeping up or it’s all part of the marketing philosophy.

    I doubt they are having a hard time keeping up with so many talented artists out there eager to fill their portfolio with something, anything.

    The great ship design potential is still there, like the Pathfinder, Romulan Command Ships, Andromeda, and the whole DR Pack (granted the latter is either you like it or hate it), but for some reason lately it is just all over the place, with a greater trend towards designs that are entirely uninspired, as if drawn by children who have no interest or talent in art, or downright illogical as with backwards-flying ships or paper-thin carriers that can't possibly house frigates.

    At first glance the Arbiter has some interesting lines, borrowing a bit from the Vestas, but then it looks much too big, contains completely disjoint hull features and textures (just like the Rom Pilots), and is topped off with an atrocious deflector "bone" that just sticks out like something out of a horrible injury.

    Otherwise, will try to reserve judgment on the Arbiter until I see it in 3D, see how the parts fit (or fail to fit) with my Avenger (which I think is one of the best looking ships in the game), and hopefully there's an option to completely remove that deflector beam part.

    Don't care for Kurak, they can keep their ugly Klingon design trend, or for this constant stream of cruiser upon cruiser while Rom & KDF get nothing for Science.

    Also, why is the Morrigu getting a 4/3 layout? Same with the Aelahl fleet variant getting a Sci console of all things.
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