So lock box ships should be superior to the actual faction ships?
Superior to faction leveling ships? Absolutely. That is how it works with the other factions.
If you are talking Faction C-store ships, they don't have to be identical to the Lock box ships. They can release different variants.
Do all Dominion Dreads have to be carriers? Do they have no intermediate ships between that and the Escorts? Still plenty of room to play around with, without stepping on existing ship toes.
Why would they build inferior ships? There mass production ships and there are more customized variants. The leveling ships would fit the mass production.
yhe dominion themselves have claimed their own area of the gamma quadrant as their own
Where? Quote where they have claimed the whole of the Gamma quadrant. They have only staked out their portion which more than likely was in route to the rest from the wormhole.
Sorry but you have no show, game, or even book cannon to support that.
based in part on what was mentioned, the dominion forces are at least a number of lightyears from the wormhole entry point
Again your scale is way off. Quadants are HUNDREDS of light years across.
Again look at the maps. Look how large Klingon space is on the big map, then look at the smaller quad map and how little it takes up in the Alpha Quadrant.
so clearly the domion have a potentially large area of space,
Who is saying they don't take up a large area. Again Klingon space takes up a large area, but relative to the quadrant and galaxy isn't that big.
They can dominate a large area without dominating the whole of the Quadrant.
They don't say anything specific, just mention possibilities, including the Co-operative, Cardassian, and Dominion, and Mirror Universe. It is around 1:15:00.
And they say there is nothing in the immediate future as a new faction.
Not really in comparison to some of the other ancient races in Star Trek. And not from their own quotes from the shows.
"The Dominion has endured for over two thousand years, and will continue to endure long after the Federation has crumbled into dust." Weyoun 4, 2372 ("To the Death")
Vash commented that some of the cultures she had encountered in the Gamma Quadrant had histories spanning millions of years. (DS9: "Q-Less")
My guess is Sela has encountered one of the races that drove the Iconians out of the galaxy the first time. This mystery race may have been waiting in the depths of the beta quadrant for in for their rivals to return They would almost certainly be advanced enough to hide from us young'ins to avoid appearing like an overlord like their despised enemy.
Wasn't it already more or less confirmed the next playable species would be liberated Borg ? I seem to recall the last podcast hinted at there already existing playable Borg ships inhouse to test .
Wasn't it already more or less confirmed the next playable species would be liberated Borg ? I seem to recall the last podcast hinted at there already existing playable Borg ships inhouse to test .
Kinda sorta.
They have already tested pieces of content related to playable Borg ships, but the plans to do so (with Delta Rising) were abandoned.
That doesn't mean that it's the only road they could go down.
Right, but doesn't the doff mission eventually lead to him returning to the Gamma Q?
I don't remember an episode that said the Founders were ever physically any different than they are now. they used to be more peaceful, but...
I am not sure if Laas is returned to the GQ or not. However he is found not there, but in the AQ and he is removed from 'The New Link', at which point you fight and capture him.
Yes that's true, I believe in that same conversation, the Female Changeling does make mention of them once being solids. I'd need to watch The Search again to be sure. IF that's even the right episode.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
Where? Quote where they have claimed the whole of the Gamma quadrant. They have only staked out their portion which more than likely was in route to the rest from the wormhole.
alright then, you tell me, where did the dominion come from, and how did they amass such a large force, you tell me how they have the resources to build such a ruthless effecient and disciplined force.
oh and please forget the search part 1 and 2 when a detailed map used by the karemma is transmitted visually to the defiant bridge as to some area of dominion space mostly to find the omarian nebula. im sure that has nothing to do with it :P.
Again your scale is way off. Quadants are HUNDREDS of light years across.
Again look at the maps. Look how large Klingon space is on the big map, then look at the smaller quad map and how little it takes up in the Alpha Quadrant.
using mem alpha which is mostly hard canon referenced material. it is stated on there clearly that the wormhole is 70k ly from bajor into the gamma quadrant, idran system. unless you forgot the first episodes of season 1. however mem alpha puts the wormhole there, then idran is 40k ly away from the galactic core. considering how far in the alpha quadrant the wormhole is, and the galactic core, it can be used to reference that the wormhole itself is mostly in the middle of the gamma quadrant. considering it takes voyager 75 years to get home from the outer edge of the delta quadrant under normal power, it would be half that time to reach into the alpha quadrant, so 37.5 years under normal conditions. you may also want to consider that the milky way galaxy is 100k ly wide.
my scale is not the problem, its the fact your not bothering to research this stuff first to bust my hand at the poker table first.
Who is saying they don't take up a large area. Again Klingon space takes up a large area, but relative to the quadrant and galaxy isn't that big.
They can dominate a large area without dominating the whole of the Quadrant.
that was just guess work on that part to assume what the dominion would be like when cryptic creates something to that effect as to how the dominion maintains such a large presence in the gamma quadrant.
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Well feel free to dig up the original poll posted by Cryptic...I'd have no idea where to look if it still even exists but Romulans were 1st and Cardassians 2nd.
Though not official his poll says the same thing...Cardassians are the next most popular.
Well feel free to dig up the original poll posted by Cryptic...I'd have no idea where to look if it still even exists but Romulans were 1st and Cardassians 2nd.
Though not official his poll says the same thing...Cardassians are the next most popular.
While my unofficial poll does in fact show Cardassians as the most popular first choice at this point, that is not the "same thing" as what Cryptic's previous faction poll showed. Why? Because a single poll(Cryptic's) only shows what people's first choice is, which was Romulan on that poll. But what a single poll does not show you is what all the people who voted for their first choice would want next. So the only way to accurately determine the most popular choice after Romulans would be to have a new poll without Romulans as the option. Then all the people who voted for Romulans on the last poll could vote for their next choice
PS: I have a feeling it would still be Cardassian, but the above is still true.
Actually, that is not what that poll showed. A single poll only shows what people's first choice is, which was Romulan on that poll. The only way to determine what the second most popular choice would be, after Romulan, would be to have a new poll without Romulan as an option. That way all the people who voted for Romulan could vote for their second choice. Those results would actually show you what the second most popular choice would be, after Romulan.
PS: I have a feeling it would still be Cardassian, but the above is still true.
I was also talking about the polls you hosted and not just the Cryptic one...my point is Cardassian and Liberated Borg both seem to be coming up over Dominion.
I was also talking about the polls you hosted and not just the Cryptic one...my point is Cardassian and Liberated Borg both seem to be coming up over Dominion.
Hopefully Cryptic will have another official poll, which will get far more voters than anything I post. Unless, of course, they are planning on going with an option that is not the clear first choice, and don't want to have an official poll showing that fact.
1)If it is the dominion you will play a vorta max (unless theres a c store changeling)
2)Alot of new races as we don't know many of the non combat dominion races) so here may be new ships not jemhadar style.
3)it will probably have an uber pack for lots of money for anything cool.
I would like it to happen but I want someone to be the bad guys again. We don't have any atm not even the Klingon. No more wishy washy factions, the dominon is basically the anti federation it has unfinished business (Breen deserves a whooping) it will fight but only to preserve itself.
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Superior to faction leveling ships? Absolutely. That is how it works with the other factions.
If you are talking Faction C-store ships, they don't have to be identical to the Lock box ships. They can release different variants.
Do all Dominion Dreads have to be carriers? Do they have no intermediate ships between that and the Escorts? Still plenty of room to play around with, without stepping on existing ship toes.
Why would they build inferior ships? There mass production ships and there are more customized variants. The leveling ships would fit the mass production.
Where? Quote where they have claimed the whole of the Gamma quadrant. They have only staked out their portion which more than likely was in route to the rest from the wormhole.
Sorry but you have no show, game, or even book cannon to support that.
Again your scale is way off. Quadants are HUNDREDS of light years across.
Again look at the maps. Look how large Klingon space is on the big map, then look at the smaller quad map and how little it takes up in the Alpha Quadrant.
Who is saying they don't take up a large area. Again Klingon space takes up a large area, but relative to the quadrant and galaxy isn't that big.
They can dominate a large area without dominating the whole of the Quadrant.
They don't say anything specific, just mention possibilities, including the Co-operative, Cardassian, and Dominion, and Mirror Universe. It is around 1:15:00.
And they say there is nothing in the immediate future as a new faction.
Not really in comparison to some of the other ancient races in Star Trek. And not from their own quotes from the shows.
"The Dominion has endured for over two thousand years, and will continue to endure long after the Federation has crumbled into dust." Weyoun 4, 2372 ("To the Death")
Vash commented that some of the cultures she had encountered in the Gamma Quadrant had histories spanning millions of years. (DS9: "Q-Less")
There are pretty specific in show quotes on both.
And that 30 year date sets them expanding, not that far from the worm hole in recent time.
Again look at the maps. The idea that there is no other faction in the Gamma Quad is far fetched given the scale.
nope but i did stay at a holiday inn express last night
all jokes aside im a fan of the original 1984 version of dune i cant get enough of that movie watch it when ever i can
Kinda sorta.
They have already tested pieces of content related to playable Borg ships, but the plans to do so (with Delta Rising) were abandoned.
That doesn't mean that it's the only road they could go down.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1447091
There is that one...then the original one that Cryptic launched...1st place went to Romulans and 2nd went to Cardassians
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I am not sure if Laas is returned to the GQ or not. However he is found not there, but in the AQ and he is removed from 'The New Link', at which point you fight and capture him.
Yes that's true, I believe in that same conversation, the Female Changeling does make mention of them once being solids. I'd need to watch The Search again to be sure. IF that's even the right episode.
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And memory alpha also puts existing cultures still present in the Gamma quad at over a million years old.
Your so what applies to your own argument using your own logic there.
Same here. I want them before Borg or Dominion.
alright then, you tell me, where did the dominion come from, and how did they amass such a large force, you tell me how they have the resources to build such a ruthless effecient and disciplined force.
oh and please forget the search part 1 and 2 when a detailed map used by the karemma is transmitted visually to the defiant bridge as to some area of dominion space mostly to find the omarian nebula. im sure that has nothing to do with it :P.
using mem alpha which is mostly hard canon referenced material. it is stated on there clearly that the wormhole is 70k ly from bajor into the gamma quadrant, idran system. unless you forgot the first episodes of season 1. however mem alpha puts the wormhole there, then idran is 40k ly away from the galactic core. considering how far in the alpha quadrant the wormhole is, and the galactic core, it can be used to reference that the wormhole itself is mostly in the middle of the gamma quadrant. considering it takes voyager 75 years to get home from the outer edge of the delta quadrant under normal power, it would be half that time to reach into the alpha quadrant, so 37.5 years under normal conditions. you may also want to consider that the milky way galaxy is 100k ly wide.
my scale is not the problem, its the fact your not bothering to research this stuff first to bust my hand at the poker table first.
that was just guess work on that part to assume what the dominion would be like when cryptic creates something to that effect as to how the dominion maintains such a large presence in the gamma quadrant.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Well feel free to dig up the original poll posted by Cryptic...I'd have no idea where to look if it still even exists but Romulans were 1st and Cardassians 2nd.
Though not official his poll says the same thing...Cardassians are the next most popular.
While my unofficial poll does in fact show Cardassians as the most popular first choice at this point, that is not the "same thing" as what Cryptic's previous faction poll showed. Why? Because a single poll(Cryptic's) only shows what people's first choice is, which was Romulan on that poll. But what a single poll does not show you is what all the people who voted for their first choice would want next. So the only way to accurately determine the most popular choice after Romulans would be to have a new poll without Romulans as the option. Then all the people who voted for Romulans on the last poll could vote for their next choice
PS: I have a feeling it would still be Cardassian, but the above is still true.
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I was also talking about the polls you hosted and not just the Cryptic one...my point is Cardassian and Liberated Borg both seem to be coming up over Dominion.
Hopefully Cryptic will have another official poll, which will get far more voters than anything I post. Unless, of course, they are planning on going with an option that is not the clear first choice, and don't want to have an official poll showing that fact.
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Join Date: Sep 2008
1)If it is the dominion you will play a vorta max (unless theres a c store changeling)
2)Alot of new races as we don't know many of the non combat dominion races) so here may be new ships not jemhadar style.
3)it will probably have an uber pack for lots of money for anything cool.
I would like it to happen but I want someone to be the bad guys again. We don't have any atm not even the Klingon. No more wishy washy factions, the dominon is basically the anti federation it has unfinished business (Breen deserves a whooping) it will fight but only to preserve itself.