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Marvel outs one of their X Men to be TRIBBLE

moonshadowdarkmoonshadowdark Member Posts: 1,899 Arc User
edited April 2015 in Ten Forward
And no, it's not Cyclops, so go cry about your LoganxJean ship somewhere else.
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  • oldschooldorkoldschooldork Member Posts: 426 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    And we are supposed to care about this because............?
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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Funny thing is that the SJWs that Marvel is trying to impress don't generally read comic books.
  • moonshadowdarkmoonshadowdark Member Posts: 1,899 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    oldschooldork wrote: »
    And we are supposed to care about this because............?

    Mostly because it's funny when Iceman straight up owns Jean Grey about her insane ability to attract the male mutants like crazy.
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  • dave18193dave18193 Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Normally Im all for introducing equality and diversity to all franchises, X men included.

    But I found the Bobby/Rouge pairing too adorable in the movies. Dont retcon it, Marvel!!

    There should be more bi and TRIBBLE superheroes though. Bring the equality dudes.
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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Not sure why this needs to be in every comic or why this is really a big thing/
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  • cptjhuntercptjhunter Member Posts: 2,288 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I knew it. It was only a matter of time.

    Let me guess which one.


    Its the one in the spandex bodysuit?:P
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    Not sure why this needs to be in every comic or why this is really a big thing/

    My guess is a cheap way for publicity. Any publicity is good publicity and brings attention to you.

    Oh, Cyclops isn't TRIBBLE. He's just a ***** :D
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    My guess is a cheap way for publicity. Any publicity is good publicity and brings attention to you.

    Oh, Cyclops isn't TRIBBLE. He's just a ***** :D
    This.... it's not like they haven't had stories with various characters that used that plot element before.... it's just that this is the first time it was one of the big five...

    And it has about as much shock value as a lead balloon has lift....
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  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    dave18193 wrote: »
    Normally Im all for introducing equality and diversity to all franchises, X men included.

    But I found the Bobby/Rouge pairing too adorable in the movies. Dont retcon it, Marvel!!

    Bobby and Rouge weren't a couple in the comics. Gambit or magneto have been her main love interests.
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  • spockout1spockout1 Member Posts: 314 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Hurray! Diversity. Now they can all pat themselves on the back.
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  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,166 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    oldschooldork wrote: »
    And we are supposed to care about this because............?

    It is a semi-controversial topic(although it shouldn't be), so I guess someone is hoping to start some drama.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    thegrandnagus1 wrote: »
    It is a semi-controversial topic(although it shouldn't be), so I guess someone is hoping to start some drama.

    It's controversial as yet another retcon...which falls into the same category as various remakes and reboots...which gets into the New Coke discussion. ;)
  • moonshadowdarkmoonshadowdark Member Posts: 1,899 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    thegrandnagus1 wrote: »
    It is a semi-controversial topic(although it shouldn't be), so I guess someone is hoping to start some drama.

    It'd be controversial if it was someone actually important, like Beast or Sabertooth or one of the headliners of X Men. Iceman is more like the second string auxiliary X Man, despite being one of it's founding members.

    Seriously, ask people to name the X Men, they name Cyclops, Jean Grey, Storm, Beast, Wolverine, Rogue, Gambit and even Jubilee. Iceman? "I thought he was Spiderman's friend."
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  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,166 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    moonshadowdark wrote: »
    It'd be controversial if it was someone actually important, like Beast or Sabertooth or one of the headliners of X Men. Iceman is more like the second string auxiliary X Man, despite being one of it's founding members.

    Hence the "semi" part. I'm sure there are some hard core "ice-heads"(made that up, but it might be a real term for them) out there who will be arguing about it :P
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Ought to make Northstar happy. He was kind of pining over Iceman for a while.

    Y'know, folks, this isn't the first TRIBBLE character in Marvel. Hell, it's not even the first TRIBBLE X-Man! What's the big deal? And it does open up some interesting storytelling possibilities for what was, let's be honest, a pretty bland character.
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  • rambowdoubledashrambowdoubledash Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Reminds me a bit of the time Karen Traviss wrote a TRIBBLE Mandalorian into one of her books and the collective reaction of the Star Wars fandom was "oh, okay." So then in one of the later books she gave him a larger part.

    I think she was expecting some kind of huge reaction and controversy.

    "OMG MANDALORIANS CAN'T BE TRIBBLE THEY'RE MANLY WARRIOR MEN!"

    That kind of thing. Didn't happen. Doesn't seem to be happening here, either: the fandom has a resounding reaction of...

    "Oh, okay."
  • cptjhuntercptjhunter Member Posts: 2,288 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I was going to say Alpha Flight member Northstar has been TRIBBLE for almost 20 years now. So it's not new ground for Marvel.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    jonsills wrote: »
    Ought to make Northstar happy. He was kind of pining over Iceman for a while.

    Y'know, folks, this isn't the first TRIBBLE character in Marvel. Hell, it's not even the first TRIBBLE X-Man! What's the big deal? And it does open up some interesting storytelling possibilities for what was, let's be honest, a pretty bland character.
    IMO the most interesting story with Iceman was the one where Mystique was.... I'm not sure if it was twisted flirting or her actually trying to kill him, either way I was kinda expecting them to make out....
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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I have a very split opinion on this... On the one hand: TRIBBLE character... I seriously couldn't care less. It's neither shocking nor interesting for someone (fictitious or factual) to be a homosexual, thus it's only 'something new', because it's a revision of a known character, which brings me to my actual issues with it... i) If they wanted to have a TRIBBLE X-Man, why not just create a new character? Why revise an existing one? Oh, that's right, it's because people don't come up with anything new any more, they just reimagine everything to suit their needs. On that basis alone, it's a f*cking weak attention-grab by the editors/writers. My other beef, is inVerse. Had Bobby walked in with a male date, all well and good, but for Jean to be reading his thoughts, and then tell him that he's TRIBBLE, no, utterly unacceptable. Who is she to make him confront that just because she has the power to read his thoughts? It's as disrespectful as if Counsellor Troi was to suddenly jump up from her chair, turn to Captain Picard, and exclaim: "You're in love with Beverley!"

    "Oh, well, yes, Counsellor, we were trying to keep it on the down-low for Wesley's sake, but now that you bring it up..."

    "You're in love with my Mom?!?!"

    "As you were, Mister Crusher, if you want to keep that field comission..."

    "Aye, Captain..."

    Forays into fanfic aside, the only person who should be announcing that Bobby's TRIBBLE, is Bobby himself...

    At least I now know he was never really after Firestar all along, and I don't have to feel bad about a childhood crush being another guy's gal :D
  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,166 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    marcusdkane wrote: »
    If they wanted to have a TRIBBLE X-Man, why not just create a new character? Why revise an existing one?

    I think the answer is that they want to have a TRIBBLE character that people actually care about, and people care more about existing characters than a newly created character no one has ever heard of before. I'm not saying I think it's the best thing to do, but I think that is *why* they do it.
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  • moonshadowdarkmoonshadowdark Member Posts: 1,899 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    nabreeki wrote: »
    Seriously lol at the Trek Fans (a franchise based on tolerance and acceptance) riled up at a TRIBBLE X-man.

    I think you've confused the Trek franchise with My Little Pony. Trek is ASTOUNDINGLY prejudice against everyone who isn't a Fed, like Cryptic is.

    Klingons are brutes! Romulans are sneaky! Borg are emotionless! Federation for the win!

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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    thegrandnagus1 wrote: »
    I think the answer is that they want to have a TRIBBLE character that people actually care about, and people care more about existing characters than a newly created character no one has ever heard of before. I'm not saying I think it's the best thing to do, but I think that is *why* they do it.

    I completely reject that notion. People might be completely apathetic towards an existing character, but be immediately captivated by a new one...

    As I said upthread, it's a lazy attention grab, and not even a well-written or meaningful one...
  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    nabreeki wrote: »
    Seriously lol at the Trek Fans (a franchise based on tolerance and acceptance) riled up at a TRIBBLE X-man. I personally think this isn't terrible news -- as stated above, the benefit here is that there are more people invested in a long-running character than simply creating a new one from scratch.

    The only unfortunate facet to this whole announcement that being TRIBBLE is still newsworthy and controversial. In a perfect world, one could simply read the comic, find that the character is outed as TRIBBLE, say "huh, didn't know that," and move on unperturbed. But, people tend to get all bothered over other peoples' life choices, even if said people are fictional characters that have even less bearing on your life than real people. Go figure.

    Riled up by a TRIBBLE X-Man? As upthread, I seriously could not care less... Irritated at an industry(s) which revises, retcons and reimagines rather than coming up with new and innovative material, absolutely so... Irritated by poor writing which takes away someone's dignity of self-identification, absolutely so...
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    marcusdkane wrote: »
    Riled up by a TRIBBLE X-Man? As upthread, I seriously could not care less... Irritated at an industry(s) which revises, retcons and reimagines rather than coming up with new and innovative material, absolutely so... Irritated by poor writing which takes away someone's dignity of self-identification, absolutely so...

    Think it gets into folks liking to make it out as if somebody is some member of some hate group, rather than it being the simple thing of what you've said there. It's just all the retcon/remake/reboot TRIBBLE done with crappy writing with obvious marketing under/overtones.

    It would be the same /facepalm if they were to redo the Birdcage with a straight couple, were to redo Shaft with Luke Wilson, were to redo Cagney & Lacey with two guys, were to redo pretty much anything where they changed some fundamental aspect of how it had been.

    It's not about hate...it's about derp.
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  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,166 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    nabreeki wrote: »
    Seriously lol at the Trek Fans (a franchise based on tolerance and acceptance) riled up at a TRIBBLE X-man.

    Who is "riled up"? Or are you just BSing to try to get people "riled up"?
    marcusdkane wrote: »
    I completely reject that notion. People might be completely apathetic towards an existing character, but be immediately captivated by a new one...

    Look, we all know there are exceptions to every "rule". Of course there are going to be some people who fall in love with a new character, and it becomes their new fave. But generally speaking, people are going to care more about characters they have a history than one they have never heard of before. Why do you think Marvel and DC are making movies about their well-known existing characters than inventing brand new ones to make movies about? The answer is obvious; because they know people are more likely to care enough to go see a movie about a well known character.
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  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,166 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    valoreah wrote: »
    Following that logic, let's make Superman into a Middle Eastern trans sexual midget with Aspberger syndrome because no one will care about anyone else.

    Why stifle creativity by using the same old characters over and over again?

    I never said I agree with the logic, I'm simply explaining it.
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