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Hi I have a theory on the next Expansion Pack gonna be actually a couple of theories my first one is more of a production it will be based on a new Borg Threat here is why in an artecal we see a cube heading for DS9 so that makes think after the Iconian War we are gonna deal with the Borg and might actually finish the fight with them. Also will have Cardassians Arc as well as well playable Cardassian and Dominion characters. The Second Theory is more of a Wish is to have a Multiverse Expansion as well that can Deal with the a Terran Empire were they did not fall or with the JJvers
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Playable Cardassian and Dominion ain't happening because of Lockbox ships.
Mirror Universe... well we know the Terran Empire came back already so that's possible, but we're not getting anything from the reboot movies due to contractual stuff. Cryptic has a contract with CBS, who have the rights to everything from Nemesis back to TOS. Paramount has the rights to the reboot movies.
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pretty much this^^^
which just makes me wanna quit i actually started playing STO with hopes playing as a cardassian and since it is not gonna happen i sometimes wonder why im still playing
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*sigh* yeah i know but its just not the same as having a cardassian and being able to go to cardassia prime and walk around.
i suppose the day i completley give up all hope of cardassians being put in game is the day i delete my toons uninstall and walk away
Why do you think there will only be one more expansion?
Playable Dominion isn't very likely considering we have had 3 of their ships in either related to lock box or a promo pack.
They have shown that they can rename stuff as they see fit, judging by the XIndi lock box. What's to say they won't make the Cardassian Galor you can get from the lock box renamed "True Way Cardassian Galor" so they can make a Cardassian faction?
actually pretty much not that post. As we've seen today, Cryptic is capable of renaming assets as they see fit. As I stated above, the Galor they give in the lock box can simply be a True Way Galor, allowing them to still have a Cardassian faction.
Not true... Cryptic have indicated they would like to add playable Cardassians and it would likely occur in-line with new Gamma Quadrant content - content which Cryptic have also indicated is very likely...
There is a single Cardassian Lockbox ship...
Though it complicates matters, it doesn't rule them out completely, especially given that an easy solution would be to make the Cardassian Faction Galor an exclusive T6 vessel and leave the T5U Lockbox version to everyone else...
Dominion is a little more tricky given there are 4 Dominion vessels, one of which is a Lobi Store vessel of course...
Has cryptic ever stated that they're looking at a joint Cardassian/Dominion faction or just a Cardassian? They only allied in the later seasons of DS9, there's no official connection between them in STO now (its only the True Way), and the Bug ships are the biggest carrot Cryptic has to throw at us right now. Why risk compromising that draw (and any chance of shifting a very timely Dominion lock box #2 for a GQ expansion) when you could choose to focus on other aspects of Gamma-related trek for a DS9-related faction (such as what the hell the Ferengi have been up to)?
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Or offer a T5U Galor with a different BOff layout.
Yup. Cardassians are going to happen eventually. I'm hoping for a very personal story, much like the one for the Romulans.
9 Episodes = 30+ episodes...?
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It's pronounced "S.T.O." "Stow" sounds idiotic! lol
Like it has been suggested in the past...maybe could give the lock box Galor a special skin and call it the True Way Galor.
I just don't see the Dominion for many reasons, including the fact just about every single Dominion ship short of the Battlecruiser is obtainable by players.
... why is it that difficult to consider the possibility of Cryptic simply offering better versions of lockbox ships for those particular factions, if they come to life?
Because of the outrage it would cause if they did? The players have already decided they do not care. They will rebuy their ships anyway at full price (and sometimes even more).
Cryptic could just rename the current Galor the "Prototype Galor", and offer a Fleet T6 "Tactical Carrier Intellicommand Galor Battlecruiser Dreadnought Retrofit" with better everything, and players will eat it up like candy.
Same goes for Dominion ships. If they wanted to create a Dominion faction, they'd just release better versions of the lockbox ships with special exclusive frills only players of the Dominion faction can use.
And players will climb over each other to see who can get their Jem'Hadar or Vorta player Captain to 60 first so they can try it out.
It is established fact Cryptic has very little interest in how much we have invested in our ships. If we love those ships that much, we are going to be expected to pay for them at full price over and over again if we want them to stay at the top of their class.
By offering lockbox ships in the form of different factions with exclusive shinies attached to them, the only kind of moral or ethical regret they would have is wishing they had done the same thing with Romulan ships before Legacy of Romulus.
nonsense. cryptic can build a cardassian faction without the original galor in its fleet, just make the galor mk II :P. an upgraded version of the original that acts more like a warship then a minor pest like the original. there is nothing stopping them from bypassing the galor to make the cardassian faction.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Add content to match new ships instead of ridiculously increasing the hp and adding near impossible timers on existing queues.
Just remove the cloaks from the KDF/rom ships with the explanation that it was destroyed in battle...... Would also be a good time to offer a battle scarred hull option.
That picture was actually nothing to do with STO, unfortunately.
That said it is seeming less and less likely and we never seem to get any response from the development team if this is even something they are considering.
The problem with expecting a response from the dev team on a cardassian faction is if they do say it's happening, people will want to know When. If you've noticed from previous releases that they said something is coming, they don't give dates. That's because they know if they do, they get a backlash when it doesn't get completed when they say.
That said, playable Cardassians are easily done. Cardassia joins the Federation, malcontents say 'the heck with this' and find the Empire and Republic welcoming them with open arms, and every faction gets a Cardassian race and their very own sets of Galors and Kaidans and whatever else.
Or at the very least, Cardassians and Galors in the c-store.
Establishing a 'separate' faction to the actual faction in the franchise lore. The Romulan Republic seems like such a watered down version of what the Romulan faction could have been. Had Cryptic cared to give the playerbase anything more than a Green UIed Federation in Romulan clothing. I might actually have cared to play a Romulan.
Now understandably the current Cardassian Faction is a bunch of farmers. But with the threat of say anotther Dominion War. The people of Cardassia, facing the inevitable return of the Dominion, might return to their old ways.
A revitalization of the Obsidian Order and the toe the line attitude towards the Cardassian people. And of course, out of fear, the people do what they find comfortable in times like this. They toe that line.
I dont think theyll do this. The fact they have no interest in spending time creating Klingon and Romulan specific content. And forcing them to play through Fed content to get to max level. A part of me hopes they never get time to introducing the Cardassians.
By treaty, the Cardassian government is only allowed to field a small Defense Force. Nothing along the lines of a faction sized military anymore.
How would a full faction work?
Faction specific damage type? Can't use Disruptors. That's KDF. Can't use Phasers. That's Fed. They never used Tetryon. Polaron was used by the Dominion. Plasma is taken by the Romulans, and Antiproton... again they never used that. In game, the Cardassians use Phasers, and Spiral Wave Disruptors on the Galor.
Territory: The Romulans pretty much have all of Tau Dewa. The Cardassians would only have half of Beta Ursae at best due to the location of DS9 and the recent new member of the Federation: Bajor. Expand into the neighboring sector blocks? Overrun with Terran Empire and True Way. They'd be fighting a civil war they don't have the resources to maintain against the True Way and the Terrans would eat them for breakfast.
Development time: Would now be split between not only new content, but the Federation, Klingons, AND Romulans. And since Star Trek has always been Fed centric, Cardassians would technically have it worse that the Klingons and Romulans for development time. Also, they would have to introduce them pretty much the same way as Romulans, as a faction that has to ally with either Fed or KDF.
Ships: Limited by treaty with the other Alpha Quadrant powers after the Dominion War, and most of them are under the control of the True Way. The most iconic ship was in a lockbox, and Cryptic admitted that was a shot in the foot for them, as they once said that they would not release a faction who's iconic ship was in a lockbox for everyone, hence why I said earlier that simply renaming it wouldn't work. That would be like renaming the Jem'Hadar Attack Ship just to get a Dominion faction. The bugship was a Promo, and the iconic ship of the Dominion. What would you name the bugship? The SALVAGED Jem'Hadar Attack Ship?
Also... customization options? Slap a couple extra bits on a Galor and you got a Keldon. How would you customize a Galor besides just simple color change? And what about C-Store options? Can't use the Kessok hybrid ships from Bridge Commander BECAUSE its from Bridge Commander. Can't use any designs from Armada 2 BECAUSE they're from Armada 2.
Species: The Romulans at least have 2 (Not counting alien), Romulans and Remans. A Cardassian faction would have... 1. Cardassians.
So as I said before... other than unlockable C-Store addon race like Fed Klingons and Joined Trill... I don't see Playable Cardassians happening.
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That said it is a good point that the Cardassian faction alone would not be sufficient. It would really need to be a Dominion/Cardassian faction. Now in a perfect world this would no doubt be what we would have, the star trek universe would be vast and multiple factions all with unique dialogue options, that is when my Cardassian looking alien encounters Cardassians doesn't feel that there was no surprise the Dominion abandoned them. Little rough going but then its no different from the other species where my Gorn is often mistaken for a puny Klingon.
But the problem with the Dominion faction its kind of just had one of its ships offered as a reward. So its unlikely that will happen. So the knock on effect is that Cardassians are unlikely to be a faction in their own right.
So I just have the development team say we kind of painted ourselves into a corner with what the faction could offer. But come the Cardassian revamp, new cardassians have signed up with the feds/romulans/Klingons to join the battle in the Delta Quadrant.
They don't have to have different damage types. The Federation and KDF both use photon torpedoes. They could let them use polaron if they wanted it to be different. Because of their time as allies of the Dominion, they may have developed some weaponry based on what they learned from them, much as the Romulan Republic uses plasma energy weapons, likely borrowed from the Borg (they used plasma torpedoes in TOS, but they never used plasma beams in any of the shows; they used disruptors).
9 Episodes = 30+ episodes...?
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Ship interiors. Missions on ship interiors. Travel on ship interiors. The world aboard your ship.
That's dramatically what you do in comic books after defeating an unbeatable foe. You cut immediately to personal stories and soap opera. And build back into the next unbeatable foe. But immediately following a hero's triumph over the gods, you kind of have to take things down to a very personal level.
Barring ship interiors?
Have us get stranded in a remote system. We have impulse (otherwise space would be impossible). We have a few planets in the system. But an entire expansion that just fleshes out this ONE SYSTEM, with each season perhaps expanding the main planet. Take things down to the micro level.
Or have an adventure zone set aboard one ship that keeps taking us back to this one ship. (Man. I have some mechanical ideas there.)
I think you really have to take things in some kind of "lower decks" direction.
If this is not the best idea that I have ever heard for expansion. Taking things to personal level, a lot of troubling choices, and even more troubling consequences. One ship as a hub...that actually is a Star Trek I remember. Fully fleshed characters and their stories, and a role of a small man in a big universe. Please Cryptic listen to this, or at least consider it!
So if they listen, or at least consider it. Take it to a personal level Cryptic. Give as a deep and profound Star Trek. A ship as a campaign, with away teams as missions within a campaign. An ability to flesh more our characters. Perhaps to explore his/her past, or some bad thing done during the career, which now is coming back and haunting him/her. Something in lieu of TNG Pegasus episode. That would be great, and very TREK.