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blairbrianblairbrian Member Posts: 24 Arc User
I understand that a challenge is better than no challenge! But this is ridiculous! I can no longer even damage a romulan ship anymore! I am firing 8 weapons on the thing and nothing! And in no time I get destroyed! The last time I played this game was about nine months ago. And I could do just fine against the romulan ships. But now they have made the game impossible! A game that used to be fun is now irritating! I have no idea why they decided to this TRIBBLE! You idiots might think this is great, But not everyone likes to be killed before they can even get a shot off. This is a shame too! I really liked this game! I worked hard and got all the top tier ships. But now my top tier ships may as well be shuttle crafts! I will never spend money or waste my time on this TRIBBLE of a game ever again unless they change this back to the way it used to be! Otherwise it is just a waste of space on my harddrive.
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Are you sure your weapon power is set to 100? Are you using your bridge officer powers to boost shields and repair hull and shields? Have you set your difficulty to Normal?
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  • ailmereailmere Member Posts: 238 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Are you sure your weapon power is set to 100? Are you using your bridge officer powers to boost shields and repair hull and shields? Have you set your difficulty to Normal?

    All key things, as well as up to date weapons.
  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    cryptic is apart of the Illuminati.
    That is all.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    blairbrian wrote: »
    I understand that a challenge is better than no challenge! But this is ridiculous! I can no longer even damage a romulan ship anymore! I am firing 8 weapons on the thing and nothing! And in no time I get destroyed! The last time I played this game was about nine months ago. And I could do just fine against the romulan ships. But now they have made the game impossible! A game that used to be fun is now irritating! I have no idea why they decided to this TRIBBLE! You idiots might think this is great, But not everyone likes to be killed before they can even get a shot off. This is a shame too! I really liked this game! I worked hard and got all the top tier ships. But now my top tier ships may as well be shuttle crafts! I will never spend money or waste my time on this TRIBBLE of a game ever again unless they change this back to the way it used to be! Otherwise it is just a waste of space on my harddrive.
    So you have not played the game in 9 months but you "really like this game"? :)

    For the record I have not played in almost 4 months and I am blowing through Romulans like they are made out of tissue paper. It would seem to me that you have either forgotten how to do something or you have something incorrectly set. The normal difficulty did not change in any way.

    The only things which have changed in the last 9 months are Advanced and Elite queues - what used to be Elite is now called Advanced. Maybe you are just playing on the wrong setting?
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • mackbolan01mackbolan01 Member Posts: 580 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    looks like the OP is spewing TRIBBLE like a broken sewer pipe..........*phew*
  • divvydavedivvydave Member Posts: 184 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Us idiots have no trouble kerb stomping a whole fleet of npcs (rom or otherwise), so who's the idiot?:D
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  • rahmkota19rahmkota19 Member Posts: 1,929 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    This appears to be a clear case of "this game is no longer for you". Nothing to worry about, there are thousands of other games out there. Not trying to force you away, but if something made for entertainment irritates you, don't participate in it. Just like how I refuse to level chars from 50 to 60 atm through Delta patrols.

    Also, mandatory "Can I haz your stuff" comment.


    EDIT: Nothing to see here, just another troll thread. Now why don't you take your attitude and shove.... I'll stop right here.
  • bobsled624bobsled624 Member Posts: 267 Bug Hunter
    edited April 2015
    blairbrian wrote: »
    I understand that a challenge is better than no challenge! But this is ridiculous! I can no longer even damage a romulan ship anymore! I am firing 8 weapons on the thing and nothing! And in no time I get destroyed! The last time I played this game was about nine months ago. And I could do just fine against the romulan ships. But now they have made the game impossible! A game that used to be fun is now irritating! I have no idea why they decided to this TRIBBLE! You idiots might think this is great, But not everyone likes to be killed before they can even get a shot off. This is a shame too! I really liked this game! I worked hard and got all the top tier ships. But now my top tier ships may as well be shuttle crafts! I will never spend money or waste my time on this TRIBBLE of a game ever again unless they change this back to the way it used to be! Otherwise it is just a waste of space on my harddrive.

    Yeah....I'm going to repeat the advice of my peers here.

    First: Check your weapons. Are they Level appropriate (i.e.: You're not going through lvl 30 or 40 content with MkII phasers?)

    Second: Your weapon power setting should be at 100, with engines being your 2nd priority. Unless you have a need to have aux power, drop it right to zero and leave it there.

    Third: BOFF abilities. Rommies are notorious for their plasma torps and their science abilities. Make sure you have Emergency -> Shields I & II both slotted on your Engineer boff. Ideally, Tachon beam and Science team on your Science BOFF and loads off weapon buff abilities on your Tac BOFFs.

    Fourth: Piloting - Unless you are in a beautiful tank build, don't just sit there and try trading shots with a D'Deridex...you will lose. Try slotting your Evasive Manouvers and Attack Pattern abilities. Don't forget, when you're turning and want to make a rapid change of course, drop to hald impulse. Once you're done with the turn, lash the throttle back to full.

    Fifth: Consoles - If you're not going for your Fleet Elite consoles, don't bother with anything other than these three:

    Console - Tactical – [WEAPON TYPE] Relay – As high Mk as you can carry and as many
    Console - Science - Field Generator – Same as above
    Console - Engineering - Neutronium Alloy – Same as above.


    Once you have a good baseline using this configuration, start swapping out some of the consoles you have the most of for your special consoles.


    Sixth: Traits and Skills - Are your traits still slotted? I know that I have issues from time to time that these reset. Are yours still slotted? If not, that may be having a huge effect on you.

    Skills: Have you spent your skil points wisely? There's a ton of builds on the STO Academy builder that give you skill point layouts as well.


    Hope this is of some assistance.

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  • koihimenakamurakoihimenakamura Member Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    blairbrian wrote: »
    I understand that a challenge is better than no challenge! But this is ridiculous! I can no longer even damage a romulan ship anymore! I am firing 8 weapons on the thing and nothing! And in no time I get destroyed! The last time I played this game was about nine months ago. And I could do just fine against the romulan ships. But now they have made the game impossible! A game that used to be fun is now irritating! I have no idea why they decided to this TRIBBLE! You idiots might think this is great, But not everyone likes to be killed before they can even get a shot off. This is a shame too! I really liked this game! I worked hard and got all the top tier ships. But now my top tier ships may as well be shuttle crafts! I will never spend money or waste my time on this TRIBBLE of a game ever again unless they change this back to the way it used to be! Otherwise it is just a waste of space on my harddrive.

    While I've had that happen to me, I usually find that keeping evasive manuevers and FAW is a godsend for that kind of situation. (Or, if I'm on my main, preemptively launching fighters and setting to Intercept..)
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    bobsled624 wrote: »
    Skills: Have you spent your skil points wisely? There's a ton of builds on the STO Academy builder that give you skill point layouts as well.
    Yeah, a tree reset means he probably has zero in all his skills.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I've been having great fun with my delta recruit. As I near level 50 though I'm feeling a little daunted at the idea of making this a full character (which is what the game should want us to do).

    Did a borg sector invasion with level 8 gear on the T4 defiant. This reminded me of how that played as a finished character 2 years ago.

    The gap to get to the current endgame ship is pretty big. The reputation is doable. The ship you can buy. However earning 300,000+ fleet credits to get the fleet tac consoles and a few other things is pretty tough with most fleets finished. Even giving away all of it in dilithium will be a challenge to find. And, honestly, playing without that equipment is unpleasant.

    Then of course there are the 45 spec points to gain - 3 or 4 months to be able to play properly (if you can find a fleet to slot projects).

    To me it seems that the system really needs a new holding to give new characters a chance, along with reducing the spec point grind in half or quarters.
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  • frontline2042frontline2042 Member Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    On the new fleet holding thing, why not just keep running provision missions? Is there a cap on how many you can have stockpiled?
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  • blairbrianblairbrian Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    So you have not played the game in 9 months but you "really like this game"? :)

    For the record I have not played in almost 4 months and I am blowing through Romulans like they are made out of tissue paper. It would seem to me that you have either forgotten how to do something or you have something incorrectly set. The normal difficulty did not change in any way.

    The only things which have changed in the last 9 months are Advanced and Elite queues - what used to be Elite is now called Advanced. Maybe you are just playing on the wrong setting?

    Yes I liked the game! And no I did not play it in nine months! If you are trying to play lawyer, You would also take into consideration that people sometimes have problems with hardware crashes. Also just because I like a game, does not mean I need to spend my whole life playing it. I can also like a car too, And keep it in the garage and not drive it. So is this all that forums are now? Whenever someone complains about a game, Instead of having a open mind, People on the forum just pound on the comment. This is also another problem. And this is also why games today are getting so bad. Nobody can think for themselves anymore. And in almost every forum all you have is just a forum full of mindless fanboys, That do nothing but defend TRIBBLE, Or moderators moderating moderators. Oh'well, You would think Star Trek fans would have more sense than this. But apparently the idiocy has cought on everywhere!
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    blairbrian wrote: »
    Yes I liked the game! And no I did not play it in nine months! If you are trying to play lawyer, You would also take into consideration that people sometimes have problems with hardware crashes. Also just because I like a game, does not mean I need to spend my whole life playing it. I can also like a car too, And keep it in the garage and not drive it. So is this all that forums are now? Whenever someone complains about a game, Instead of having a open mind, People on the forum just pound on the comment. This is also another problem. And this is also why games today are getting so bad. Nobody can think for themselves anymore. And in almost every forum all you have is just a forum full of mindless fanboys, That do nothing but defend TRIBBLE, Or moderators moderating moderators. Oh'well, You would think Star Trek fans would have more sense than this. But apparently the idiocy has cought on everywhere!
    It is not about people here having an open mind or defending. It is about you saying it does not work without giving us any details as to how it is not working. So as is usual on a gaming forum: blame anyone for your problem but yourself.

    When you go into a doctor's office do you just say "it hurts?" Saying "it hurts" does not tell the doctor where it hurts, what you are doing when it hurts, etc.

    The solution is in the details, not in the nerd rage post you made originally.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • koihimenakamurakoihimenakamura Member Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Son, this is bait. :<
  • blairbrianblairbrian Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    rahmkota19 wrote: »
    This appears to be a clear case of "this game is no longer for you". Nothing to worry about, there are thousands of other games out there. Not trying to force you away, but if something made for entertainment irritates you, don't participate in it. Just like how I refuse to level chars from 50 to 60 atm through Delta patrols.

    Also, mandatory "Can I haz your stuff" comment.

    Because I do not want advice! especially from a fanboy who only wants to believe the great creators can do nothing wrong!
  • knuhteb5knuhteb5 Member Posts: 1,831 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    This does seem like a bait thread. The best we can do is ignore him and move on folks.
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  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Aka "I suck at the game and want to blame the developers instead".
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  • jstewart55jstewart55 Member Posts: 412 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    knuhteb5 wrote: »
    This does seem like a bait thread. The best we can do is ignore him and move on folks.

    More like a 'bate thread. :cool:
  • begeracbegerac Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Got problem? Just FAW it!
  • divvydavedivvydave Member Posts: 184 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    blairbrian wrote: »
    Because I do not want advice! especially from a fanboy who only wants to believe the great creators can do nothing wrong!

    Then your trolling, no?
  • knuhteb5knuhteb5 Member Posts: 1,831 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    begerac wrote: »
    Got problem? Just FAW it!

    How many boffs would a starship seat to accomplish FAW, would a starship seat to FAw, would a starship seat, could seat, should seat for FAw?
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    blairbrian wrote: »
    Instead of having a open mind, People on the forum just pound on the comment. This is also another problem. And this is also why games today are getting so bad. Nobody can think for themselves anymore. And in almost every forum all you have is just a forum full of mindless fanboys, That do nothing but defend TRIBBLE, Or moderators moderating moderators. Oh'well, You would think Star Trek fans would have more sense than this. But apparently the idiocy has cought on everywhere!

    You're hilarious. You come here spewing insults at people and then cry because people are hurting your precious feelings because they don't have an 'open mind.'
    blairbrian wrote: »
    Because I do not want advice!!

    And that there is your problem sparky. You don't want help, you don't want to fix the problem, you're just here to TRIBBLE and moan like a baby, so you get treated like one.

    Most people here are happy to help a struggling player, it's amazing how far people here will go to offer help. Heck you can get people on this board to do your entire build for you and post you a link to follow.. but the issue is, you don't want help. You're just here to cry and make a big scene.

    Well fine then, you had your moment in the sun. Now accept that you suck and go play something else. No one here cares about your pathetic little cry baby rant.
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Not excusing the OP's method of expressing their frustration, but I think I know what happened.

    There's a portion of one of the storylines, sorry I don't remember the title, but you suddenly encounter some Romulan D'Ds (or is it Mogai's, or both?) that like to tractor you then throw a volley of HY plasma torps at you. There are strategies to counter this, but it is really jarring to the first time player (or even the returning player) who, up to that point could solve all their problems with pew-pew-pew.

    To the OP: it gets easier after a couple missions again, either you'll level into a tougher, harder hitting ship, or you'll figure out how to cope, or eventually the strategy goes back to pew-pew-pew. Soon enough, it'll be a distant memory and you too will be able to grump at people who are throwing a fit in the forums, forgetting that you too, had the same issues.
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  • reynoldsxdreynoldsxd Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I've been having great fun with my delta recruit. As I near level 50 though I'm feeling a little daunted at the idea of making this a full character (which is what the game should want us to do).

    Did a borg sector invasion with level 8 gear on the T4 defiant. This reminded me of how that played as a finished character 2 years ago.

    The gap to get to the current endgame ship is pretty big. The reputation is doable. The ship you can buy. However earning 300,000+ fleet credits to get the fleet tac consoles and a few other things is pretty tough with most fleets finished. Even giving away all of it in dilithium will be a challenge to find. And, honestly, playing without that equipment is unpleasant.

    Then of course there are the 45 spec points to gain - 3 or 4 months to be able to play properly (if you can find a fleet to slot projects).

    To me it seems that the system really needs a new holding to give new characters a chance, along with reducing the spec point grind in half or quarters.

    fleet marks are easy: all choice of mark ques reward them and most go quite fast. Normal diifficulty is enough. You can run fleet alert, colony invasion, CE and azura rescue easy in the time fleet alert needs to reset.


    To get spec XP, the dyson space zone combines undine marks with decent xp due to the constant scaling spawns.


    In honest review: the only thing truly separating My DR from my 5 yea old main are spire tac consoles and a decent warpcore. For all other gear there is ample and easy to get substitutions. arguably, the set bonuses of all the new sets (be it solanee, kobali, jem hadar or the rep sets) make fleet deflector/engines/shields undesirable for normal play.

    So where are you left really? Lock box traits? They are good, sure but do you need them for the new char? He's not just a copy of your old, is he?

    I think this is the perfect opportunity to raise alts. The exchange has plenty cheap kit-mods like polaron barrage, bulwark protection, psionic etc. The Sela episode hands you a very decent ground set with an armor that boost secondary shot damage, allowing for some mob clearing alpha strikes.

    Your old char has a repertoire of options due to all the stuff that has accumulated, but your DR can catch up quite decently if you focus your gearing.



    My plan is:

    Level the reps to full on the side via boosted daily projects
    Grab fleet marks via trolling the normal queues.
    Make sure to keep my dil refine topped of on all my older chars (at 14 chars, thats some work but it will deliver the needed dilithium to the DR) and buy the spire consoles i need and decide on a warpcore If i want on and am not using a set.


    Upgrades are build by my older chars, and dili is provided in sufficient quantity.


    That really leaves only the onee shot traits from lockboxes that make a difference. Evrythign else... is more an issue of the time gating ^^
  • minababeminababe Member Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    OP is clearly suffering from this medical problem: First World Problems
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  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    blairbrian wrote: »
    Because I do not want advice! especially from a fanboy who only wants to believe the great creators can do nothing wrong!

    A number of the people you're saying this kind of thing to do almost nothing on this forum EXCEPT whine about what Cryptic's done with the game.

    You, meanwhile, have mentioned none of those things, only things that have not changed and which are 100% within player control.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    reynoldsxd wrote: »
    fleet marks are easy: all choice of mark ques reward them and most go quite fast. Normal diifficulty is enough. You can run fleet alert, colony invasion, CE and azura rescue easy in the time fleet alert needs to reset.

    Fleet Marks are easy to get, he's talking about Fleet Credit which is next to impossible to get. Flooding the system with bonus marks is making it even harder. Fleets only need so many marks, they fill up instantly and then projects sit there and wait for people to fill the remaining items.. like Dilithium.

    The Fleet system flat out sucks. Fleet Marks are worthless because they're next to impossible to cash in. The last few fleet consoles I wanted, i had to trade Dilithium for Credits even though I have thousands of Marks. I can't give those stupid things away.
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    reynoldsxd wrote: »
    fleet marks are easy: all choice of mark ques reward them and most go quite fast. Normal diifficulty is enough. You can run fleet alert, colony invasion, CE and azura rescue easy in the time fleet alert needs to reset.


    To get spec XP, the dyson space zone combines undine marks with decent xp due to the constant scaling spawns.

    In honest review: the only thing truly separating My DR from my 5 yea old main are spire tac consoles and a decent warpcore.


    That really leaves only the onee shot traits from lockboxes that make a difference. Evrythign else... is more an issue of the time gating ^^

    The problem isn't fleet marks it's fleet credits. Most of my characters have some 10,000 fleet marks. And I am happy to gain new marks for my new character. It's just I'm in 4 different fleets and none slot projects anymore (and 2 of these are only t4 starbase). I find it hard to believe other fleets aren't the same way.

    To me those spire consoles if I get the phantom - means 5 consoles or 250,000 fleet credits. It's a daunting task.

    However the main point I was trying to make is that there really is a gulf between the powercreep today and 2 years ago. What I'm saying is that the current t4 defiant with purple 8 roughly = back then's top gear and ship.
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