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Starship Buyer's Remorse
drakethewhite
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Hindsight, it's 20-20 but if you wait long enough to get it- you've passed the point when the action would matter.
But man, I wish I could take back some of my C-Store purchase decisions...
These for example:
The Guardian Cruiser- yes, it's not a bad ship and its BOFF layout is excellent which is way I got it. But I'll never buy another cruiser with less than 4 TAC consoles again. Can't even make use of its trait which is subpar compared to other options.
The Odyssey Bundle- What a whale. At first I thought it looked... well OK. Not outstanding, but OK. But it was such a slug. And the consoles looked exciting, but in the end were so underwhelming. And the more I used it, the more ugly it became.
The Kumari Bundle- I actually played this one for quite a while and enjoyed it on my main. However in the end it became a poor choice for the role that the Scimitar does so much better at, and gave up too much in order to be what it was. I likely shouldn't list it here as it was successful for me and really only ruined by later developments, and that always happens in the end with an MMO. But I think the fact that I had to go looking for a 'alien' ship to find what I enjoyed to play (inside of using a true Federation ship) is why I don't look back on it as fondly as I do.
Galaxy X- It was what? The first special ship offered wasn't it? For getting another player to join? Then it went to the C-Store. I have no idea why I got it (or even how I got it, memory fades). Perhaps it was because the game was young and everything seemed worth trying out (there wasn't that much yet). I think I flew it twice or something like that.
Nebula- Again early in the game. Brought it for my science alt. Never really used it. Ugly, and not very effective unless you completely focused on abilities that I didn't find to be very Star Fleet like.
Tempest- Got it, liked it, played it, and then shortly after buying it the whole T6 thing hit, and now it's just sitting mothballed in the hanger never to be used again.
If only I could sell these back, even at a fifth of the original cost. Oh well, hindsight.
The one nice thing about the T6 ships going forward, even if you mothball the ship you still have access to the trait. And even if useless now (like the Guardian's) compared to others, it might become key in later build you want.
Disclaimer: The above was subjective and reflects only my views. I don't expect everyone or anyone to agree. If I slammed your favorite ship, it's not personal just how I reacted to them.
But man, I wish I could take back some of my C-Store purchase decisions...
These for example:
The Guardian Cruiser- yes, it's not a bad ship and its BOFF layout is excellent which is way I got it. But I'll never buy another cruiser with less than 4 TAC consoles again. Can't even make use of its trait which is subpar compared to other options.
The Odyssey Bundle- What a whale. At first I thought it looked... well OK. Not outstanding, but OK. But it was such a slug. And the consoles looked exciting, but in the end were so underwhelming. And the more I used it, the more ugly it became.
The Kumari Bundle- I actually played this one for quite a while and enjoyed it on my main. However in the end it became a poor choice for the role that the Scimitar does so much better at, and gave up too much in order to be what it was. I likely shouldn't list it here as it was successful for me and really only ruined by later developments, and that always happens in the end with an MMO. But I think the fact that I had to go looking for a 'alien' ship to find what I enjoyed to play (inside of using a true Federation ship) is why I don't look back on it as fondly as I do.
Galaxy X- It was what? The first special ship offered wasn't it? For getting another player to join? Then it went to the C-Store. I have no idea why I got it (or even how I got it, memory fades). Perhaps it was because the game was young and everything seemed worth trying out (there wasn't that much yet). I think I flew it twice or something like that.
Nebula- Again early in the game. Brought it for my science alt. Never really used it. Ugly, and not very effective unless you completely focused on abilities that I didn't find to be very Star Fleet like.
Tempest- Got it, liked it, played it, and then shortly after buying it the whole T6 thing hit, and now it's just sitting mothballed in the hanger never to be used again.
If only I could sell these back, even at a fifth of the original cost. Oh well, hindsight.
The one nice thing about the T6 ships going forward, even if you mothball the ship you still have access to the trait. And even if useless now (like the Guardian's) compared to others, it might become key in later build you want.
Disclaimer: The above was subjective and reflects only my views. I don't expect everyone or anyone to agree. If I slammed your favorite ship, it's not personal just how I reacted to them.
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That's a bit unreasonable, do you regret owning that old computer or car you replaced a few years (or sooner) down the line?
No, you made use of it at the time and year's worth of play is a year's worth of play. So if you enjoyed it, I wouldn't be that bitter about it.
On the other hand, if you didn't like playing those ships for a year, or if it was only a month or two... yeah. It's more justifiable then IMO.
--Red Annorax
I got the Delta Pack, and really love every ship in it... except the Dauntless. The Dauntless was a miserable chore to fly.
Other than that? I adore all my ships. I haven't bought any 3- or 9-packs (though that's changing with the Command Bundle - I'm grabbing that for sure). But I love all my ships.
I enjoyed exploring game mechanics, mostly through PVP (because DPS is the only thing needed for PVE). I bought a lot of ships, built a lot of toons, then one day woke up and they were all obsolete, no longer usable for the same content they had been very usable with the day before.
So do all the old Tier 5 ships,
I've been doing PVEs on my Tier 5 Exploration cruiser retrofit it's not even a fleet version, just because a vessel can't do 30,000 DPS doesn't make it obsolete.
Also, insulting people is a great way to get them to agree with you. People like you are absolutely not why I avoid PvP content in basically every game I play.
I share your feelings.
I purchased the Tac Oddyssey, but I never really warmed up to it. Too slow and not at all exciting. The Aquarius pet was pathetic.
I also bought a Dyson destroyer (bad). Kar'Fi (obselete). Right now the Avenger, Mogh, and Scimitar are the only C-Store ships I still use.
I'm agonizing over purchasing a command ship, but statistically they don't seem to be a whole lot different that the Kobali ship or the T5U Risa Cruiser - and the specialization abilities are only mildly interesting. The Breen Carrier is a tough ship that offers enough abilities for my science characters. You might get a little more power to weapons or science by getting a command ships, but I'm not sure it's worth $30, $60, or more to outfit my different faction characters.
Maybe he'd enjoy it better if not for his attachment to things outdated, I'm sure STO would run better if he replaced his 386 computer with something more modern.
In general however, I don't think newer and better stuff coming along is much of a reason for Buyer's Remorse unless the turnover is real short (less than a 3 months perhaps). Although I do understand that this was a different game for five years where stuff just didn't get replaced as much. Things have changed.
But it's still not that bad, I was playing my Excelsior until the beginning of this month and doing fine. The worse impact has not be the new ships, but rather the impact on the PvE Queues.
Oh it appears I was mistaken, I thought I was talking to an adult
but since you are so egotistical and arrogant to consider anyone else's point of view it's quite obvious you're just a child I'm afraid you are the one who belongs in a kiddie pool and once you remove your head from your own TRIBBLE you will be ready to get out.
Science wise, the Vesta Pack and the Voth Palisade were good buys and I got both. I actually weighed the pros and cons of each ship/pack before getting it. The only time I bought junk was the Tac Odyssey, and I still regret buying that thing, but that was my first bought ship and I didn't think it through.
The new T6 ships are a double edged sword. Some are good with crappy traits and others are horrible with good traits. I want the Scryer for instance, but only for its trait. The Command pack would be nice to build a shield drainer (Using the Tachyon Console and 4 piece set), but I don't like trying to use cruisers as science ships. Yet again there, they stuck a nice trait in one of them (AHOD).
I've been hoarding EC for a while, because, most often than not, the good science ships come in either lockboxes or the lobi store (Wells and Palisade). Hoping the devs finally get out of their endless Escort/Cruiser/Bad sci ship cycle and actually make a science ship with:
1) Great universal science based console and layout like the Voth Palisade
2) Great sci ship trait on it.
Until then, I'll hold my purchases. I'd rather farm dil and get the two ship traits I need off the C-Store for free.
To the devs: You really need to use your "let's build something overpowered" thinking you use so creatively with DPS and do something similar science wise.
But they aren't the best out there, same with your ships...they aren't top of the line but there is no way you can say they're unplayable.
I legitimately laughed out loud at that question. At work. Oops.
I don't want to talk you into something unsuited to you...
But I wasn't interested in the Command Ships either and so didn't jump on them. I got the TAC command cruiser, phantom and eclipse just to have the traits to make my Excelsior sing using birthday money.
And while I hated the Kobali ship, I love the TAC Command Ship. Inspiration, good trait, hanger bay, and enough turn rate to not feel like pig. And the looks grew on me instead of decaying.
It's the first STO designed ship that feels to me like a future (i.e. 25th century) starship. Enough of the old concepts, and enough new in the right balance.
I'm still keeping my Excelsior around however.
The end-game in STO was arbitrarily changed for the purpose of shaking the money tree. All my builds were no longer competitive, not from neglect or anything on my part.
I agree with you, I'd like to see it and I doubt it will ever happen.
But wouldn't it make a great event?
"Fly, tow, or push your old starships down to our lot! We'll give you top trade in value this week and this week only!
Old clunker can't perform anymore? We don't care!
Things uglier than my brother Jed? We don't care!
Bring it on down! And this week, this week only get <insert Event Ship> in trade"
I vote for a new freighter of some type
My Vesta is as useable and fun as it was pre-DR, and I've seen nothing from T6 that makes me want to buy one to replace it.
Have you ever considered that at least part of the problem is you and your attitude to things?
Wish you people would stop projecting your objectives onto mine
If you hate that ship, you must be using it wrong. That damn thing is a healing tank.
Nit-pit- no, the ship isn't. It's console, trait and the Kobai set are and those can be used with different ships.
For me it was the look, the color, its sluggish turn rate, and general lack of spark. There was nothing there that made me like it. Other than that, It's a good ship, in stats and BOFF mush like the Ambassador class and I loved that ship.
Sometimes what one likes or dislikes isn't very rational.
T5 Vesta or T5-U Vesta?
T5-(F)U is not T5.
T5-(F)U gets additional scaling.
ISA, for example, has buffed NPCs compared to old ISE, so your Vesta is not as usable now as it was comparatively.