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TY PVP For bringing the nerf hammer to SS
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This is from red shirt patch notes:
Surgical Strikes:
Resolved an issue that was causing some Disruptor Cannons to benefit less from this power than intended.
Plasma, Phaser, and Disruptor Quad Cannons now use correct FX and Icons when using this ability.
Accuracy and Critical Hit bonuses reduced:
Rank 1 = unchanged 20%
Rank 2 = reduced from +30% to +26%
Rank 3 = reduced from +40% to +32%
Damage multipliers reduced:
Rank 1 = base multiplier reduced by ~10%
Rank 2 = base multiplier reduced by ~16.8%
Rank 3 = base multiplier reduced by ~21.5%
I understand an accuracy reduction but a damage reduction as well?
Surgical Strikes:
Resolved an issue that was causing some Disruptor Cannons to benefit less from this power than intended.
Plasma, Phaser, and Disruptor Quad Cannons now use correct FX and Icons when using this ability.
Accuracy and Critical Hit bonuses reduced:
Rank 1 = unchanged 20%
Rank 2 = reduced from +30% to +26%
Rank 3 = reduced from +40% to +32%
Damage multipliers reduced:
Rank 1 = base multiplier reduced by ~10%
Rank 2 = base multiplier reduced by ~16.8%
Rank 3 = base multiplier reduced by ~21.5%
I understand an accuracy reduction but a damage reduction as well?
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I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
It was a PvP issue
But instead of making the changes verses player
He made the changes verses all
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
They have adapted..., Most of them left.
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
Yes PvP'ers brought it to their attention.
But what got SS so heavy nerfed was PvE parsing by the devs. :P
It does show just how out of touch they are with there own product doesn't it
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
But you missing the point, it should of just been changed against players which can be done, on several weapons this change exists, but now it changes it for everyone.
Wrong, they changed it because its overperforming period, in both PvE and PvP.
This is the standard development cycle. New thing is OP, people point out it's OP for months, once they're a couple weeks away from releasing the next OP thing they "fix" it, next OP thing is released, repeat.
It happens all the time but it seems that most people are too dense to see the process. I can't wait for all the tears over some Intel powers being given to NPCs...
This is what the 5th thread making the same baseless assumption? Please continue your ignorant raging, let me get some popcorn.
Yup, and I just ran out of kettle corn
Honestly its pretty dumb to think Intel ships are useless because on power got nerfed.
There are still crazy powers like OSS3 that can push Intel ship firepower and performance way above that of non-intel ships.
Not to mention their cloak and stealth bonuses and integrated powers.
and honestly ss dmg was stupidly high maybe now they will bring some hp numbers down a tad but cryptic wants us to spend 1 hour in an stf so here ya go pve reason to nerf it.
Just because SS has been normalized does not mean the other old methods of DPS have.
This is true
did a intel ship using SS3 even come close to being a top DPS maching ?....no
A scimitar with CritDx4 anti protons does approx. 100% ??? more DPS than a phantom in the record books
so the problem isn't and never was a PvE DPS problem
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
Tl; dr incase this is hard to grasp. The pvp community can't get **** nerfed when none of us play anymore outside of forum pew.
It's like we've time travelled back to 2011 or sth.
"PvP isn't dead you know, as long as we remember to blame it"
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1405441
But the thread got silently closed.
The right way to balance Surgical Strikes
But those NPCs that do nothing ARE SO HARD!!!
Your sarcasm despite, whilst doing 'nothing', they're still sitting on millions of HP.
Given the current state of STO PvP, the idea that you think Cryptic "listened to PvPers" and made such a changed based on comments of their miniscule number of players actively trying to keep any STO PvP actually going is amusing as hell.
Blame Cryptic data mining and metrics because that's the only thing that causes change in STO. They want you to spend X amount of minimum time killing certain types of MOBs (so you gain XP ONLY at a rate Cryptic is happy with.) If a power causes X to be too small in Crytic's eyes, out comes the Nerf bat.:eek:
PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."
but not as hard as Noob Stomping in PvP is it ?
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
It's still the truth. And nothing that a bit of teamwork can do outside of raw DPS.
Unlike PVE, unless you know specifically the target you're about to fight, you never truly know how good the other guy is. They could be noobs you pop real easy. They could be that someone that will give you a good run for the money. They could also be that person that will grab you, throw you over the table, and have their way with you.
You never know.
However, unlike PVP, in PVE, you will ALWAYS know what the enemy is capable of (little). They follow the EXACT same set of patterns. When X happens, Y will then occur. Always. To a "T."
So, in PVP, the enemy has at least that chance because they can do something that you're not prepared for regardless of the instance. In PVE, it's always the same formula. No variation. The same dumb NPCs that do next to nothing, measuring yourselves against TRIBBLE NPCs that do nothing.
Not so amusing when you realize it's true.
Psychologically, Devs, in any MMO, are inclined to listen to PvP-ers only. That's because Devs are technically knowledgeable, and so are decent PvP-ers. So, there's always a natural tendency to listen to the PvP community, exclusively almost, and to ignore the scrubs. It's, psychologically, a sort of 'peer-to-peer' deal between Dev and PvP-er.
So, to formulate it correctly, it's not so much PvP-ers per se the Devs choose to listen to, but 'other knowledgeable peope.' And the latter just happen to be PvP-ers (generally spoken).
A Dev, however, should always remain his professional objectivity, and realize it's that other 99% of the game he's really writing code for. If not, well, see major SS nerf.