that will be in late spring, but who knows it could be part of it.
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please, its cryptic, we know already that it will be 1/2 finished, buggy as hell and just a scheme to sell SOMETHING
I am inclined to agree with this statement. Cryptic has a habit of releasing half-finished content and then scrambling about to pick up the pieces when it does inevitably explode.
This is good for new players, and any existing ones willing to go through the trouble of grinding a new character.
Till DR, I never had a main. I have 13 characters, and played on all of them the same. However, with the release of DR, which is excessively grind focused, and NOT alt friendly.
If you are not going to waste the time grinding another character, just to play through the same missions again, then it is pointless.
Personally, till they fix the major game pley problems with DR, I am not going to waste time with another alt. They even said that most of the things you will be doing is what you do anyway playing the missions. All that means is that you will be grinding another character through the exact same content as before.
If they are not willing to fix the game play problems, then at least make new content, instead of trying to find ways to bribe players to replay the same content they have already done.
Besides, if you want to start a new character, even without the bonus xp event, it only takes less than 48 hours to reach level 50. The real problem is getting to 60, and getting the spec points. Everything else is just putting glitter on the same old stuff to get people to play it so they don't have to fix stuff, or put out new content.
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Well I think this will be interesting. Can't wait to get that temporal trait... and some of that *cough* gear And its now on us the player to do your dailies/play the game to earn xp buffs for the whole population... excellent! Trolls be damned.
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Seems like its mostly just a way to get hours-of-play metric up
It certainly doesn't do anything for established accounts. Most of the (active) accounts probably only have 1-2 toons though.
And we got a winner! This event is so they can claim DR is the best expansion ever and the metrics prove it thanks to having to grind through episodes to get account wide rewards.
This is just what I needed to start a few new characters!
I have backstories already worked out for Federation and Romulan characters, so now I get to think like a Klingon (once again).
I'm still not clear why the KDF is even in the Delta Quadrant fighting Star Fleets wars. If anything we should be subjugating all the weak spineless Delta species.
Seems like its mostly just a way to get hours-of-play metric up
It certainly doesn't do anything for established accounts. Most of the (active) accounts probably only have 1-2 toons though.
But that's where it gets tricky, because we know that it does do something for established accounts...
Like I posted in the PvP forums earlier in the day...
Delta Recruits will be playing a parallel story to that of their chosen faction. They have a list of goals that they can achieve at any time, and completing these goals will see them rewarded with equipment, Marks, and other rewards beneficial not just to the Delta Recruit, but to all characters on the same account.Completing the story arcs of your chosen faction will reward you with a unique Starship Trait for all characters on your account: Temporal Insight. This trait will proc a Damage Immunity when you use any Hull Heal on your starship.
...they list the Temporal Insight trait - but will there be other things?
Basically, this toon - this disposable toon - that we'll be creating to pad their metrics, are we going to be doing so out of a feeling of need to get various goodies for the account?
This isn't like the Rep, R&D, Specialization stuff where we can say it will get done when it gets done. This isn't like an "Event' where it might take 5 minutes a day.
I'm curious and put off at the same time about just what grinding out this disposable toon is going to provide my actual guy.
Disposable toon...lol...I'll have to roll a red shirt.
edit: Course, as much as the whole thing is leaving me feeling like uninstalling...I still find myself wanting to make a joke about "If the badge fits.." and clipping of combadges with the breast slider.
edit2: I'm just having a hard time not picturing this as some continuing Starship Troopers crossover. There's Bug Hunt, there's the trench warfare, a recruitment drive...
Have 14 characters, 6 I play, rest I just doff on. So that really is more than enough.
At the same time, been wanting to create a Ferasan Engineer, my main is a KDF Eng, and I find that class the most fun for storyline playing.
Mostly KDF player, so looks like I'll be making a Ferasan Engineer, with three weeks to come up with a name.
By the time that event wraps up I should be just about hitting 1000 days, so that toon can settle into my Veteran Destroyer.
In the end Its one more toon to maurader on, as I normally Doff level my toons from 11-50. Even my doffing toons are hitting level 56 now. That will make it 10 KDF, to 5 feds (4 of which just sit as ESD turning in Contrabands.
Sorry not ready to jump on the hate train yet.
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War with the Iconians. Delta Recuits. This sounds like the beginning of the end of Star Trek Online. If I remember correctly, Branflakes mentioned that STO had a few years of life in it before he left. With the way things are going, one has to wonder if this will be the end.
I don't think its a hate train. Its more of a "WHY????????? train.
Its only one of to things.... it was the lazy way to add some of the content and took the least amount of programming or its all part of a larger scheme to sell something.
War with the Iconians. Delta Recuits. This sounds like the beginning of the end of Star Trek Online. If I remember correctly, Branflakes mentioned that STO had a few years of life in it before he left. With the way things are going, one has to wonder if this will be the end.
It's been the end of STO since February 2010. I think Delta Recruits will just be another way STO is going to be ruined forever.
Since I recently just created a new character I am not particularly fond of creating another new one. Basically I'm playing my new character right now and suddenly feel he is worthless now. But I will continue playing him, because I already invested several ressources into him. When DR goes live I might try it out for the story and the account unlocks, but I highly doubt that my Delta Recruit will ever get played again after this. Like many others before me I would have prefered to turn an existing character in a Delta Recruit instead haveing to begin from the scratch. I don't really see a reason why only new characters should be that special and why old characters shouldn't be able to get into the fun by replaying old content.
It's just kinda sad, that probably most Delta Recruits won't make it that far ingame, as I believe people with existing accounts might want to stick to established characters and aren't particularly fond of continuing to play new characters from now on.
I feel the potential of interesting, new content is kinda wasted by restricting it to new characters only. While this probably is something great for new players, I feel that there should be something similarly rewarding for old players without forcing them to roll new characters to experience the new stuff.
Well, we'll see how this will turn out in the end.
You know, had this "event" been tied to, oh, say a complete PvP rebuild?
I'd be singing it's praises across the internets.
As it sits now, may I remind you that three years of advertising and STO's free to play status - on top of the first two years of "subscription only" status has probably had just about every Star Trek fan with a computer and inkling to play an MMO based on Star Trek roll a character and check the place out.
This isn't like Champions Online where you can throw an event like this in an attempt to suck in genre (superhero) fans with promises of "shinies, competitiveness, and able to play with the old guard in two months".
This is a game where the Name, and therefore License, are the draws. As I've said, you've pretty much tapped everyone of them already. They might have left years ago over Dilithium and/or F2P. Or Fleet Bases. Or Reputations.
Those are the players you need to re-engage. And if the current forumbase is any indication, many many of them won't come back based on what they see and hear from their friend(s) who may have stuck it out longer than them - or might even be amongst us right now...
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Delta Recruits are specifically designed to rapidly close the gap that exists between new characters and characters that have been in Star Trek Online for years
There really isn't a "gap". It all boils down to much $$ you spend. The only benefit I have from time is the fact I have just had longer to collect stuff. But your grandma could start playing today and if she spent her SS check on zen she could be just as badass as you, maybe more so.
You also made all of us all equal in Delta Rising (ITBEEAPLI). We all had to get 60, grind spec points and upgrade everything. Again someone who just started last week, if they spend enough $$ can have better stuff than me.
One way you could close the gap is to just slash most all the c store prices by 1/2
You know, had this "event" been tied to, oh, say a complete PvP rebuild?
I'd be singing it's praises across the internets.
As it sits now, may I remind you that three years of advertising and STO's free to play status - on top of the first two years of "subscription only" status has probably had just about every Star Trek fan with a computer and inkling to play an MMO based on Star Trek roll a character and check the place out.
This isn't like Champions Online where you can throw an event like this in an attempt to suck in genre (superhero) fans with promises of "shinies, competitiveness, and able to play with the old guard in two months".
This is a game where the Name, and therefore License, are the draws. As I've said, you've pretty much tapped everyone of them already. They might have left years ago over Dilithium and/or F2P. Or Fleet Bases. Or Reputations.
Those are the players you need to re-engage. And if the current forumbase is any indication, many many of them won't come back based on what they see and hear from their friend(s) who may have stuck it out longer than them - or might even be amongst us right now...
also to add that, a lot of "new" players really aren't trekkers per se. the ip isn't really that important to them. they are mostly concerned which torp is the most bugged atm giving the most dps. so the ip suffers and that turns off older players.
It's been the end of STO since February 2010. I think Delta Recruits will just be another way STO is going to be ruined forever.
Buffy was good at having a seasonal big bad - but the writers here have written themselves into a corner with a very big big bad. Hard to come back from beating them.
My friend pointed out though that the war might last 2 years, which is something I hadn't considered - so I'm remaining optimistic for now.
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Buffy was good at having a seasonal big bad - but the writers here have written themselves into a corner with a very big big bad. Hard to come back from beating them.
My friend pointed out though that the war might last 2 years, which is something I hadn't considered - so I'm remaining optimistic for now.
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that will be in late spring, but who knows it could be part of it.
"Our history, our past, our present and our future is now forever changed. All we can do is preserve what is left and continue onwards. This is not a surrender nor defeat, we will continue the fight. This is our last hope, our last chance... for victory."
Vlasek D. Lasor - 4.19.3580
Star Trek Online: Foundry Storyline Series
please, its cryptic, we know already that it will be 1/2 finished, buggy as hell and just a scheme to sell SOMETHING
I am inclined to agree with this statement. Cryptic has a habit of releasing half-finished content and then scrambling about to pick up the pieces when it does inevitably explode.
Till DR, I never had a main. I have 13 characters, and played on all of them the same. However, with the release of DR, which is excessively grind focused, and NOT alt friendly.
If you are not going to waste the time grinding another character, just to play through the same missions again, then it is pointless.
Personally, till they fix the major game pley problems with DR, I am not going to waste time with another alt. They even said that most of the things you will be doing is what you do anyway playing the missions. All that means is that you will be grinding another character through the exact same content as before.
If they are not willing to fix the game play problems, then at least make new content, instead of trying to find ways to bribe players to replay the same content they have already done.
Besides, if you want to start a new character, even without the bonus xp event, it only takes less than 48 hours to reach level 50. The real problem is getting to 60, and getting the spec points. Everything else is just putting glitter on the same old stuff to get people to play it so they don't have to fix stuff, or put out new content.
It certainly doesn't do anything for established accounts. Most of the (active) accounts probably only have 1-2 toons though.
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I have a MAIN toon. That is my PRIME reason for logging in.
My alternates are not my reason for logging in.
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"It's easy to cling to principles when you're standing on a vessel with its bulkheads intact, manned by a crew that's not starving."
And we got a winner! This event is so they can claim DR is the best expansion ever and the metrics prove it thanks to having to grind through episodes to get account wide rewards.
You just had a whole expansion custom made for devotees of the way of the One True Main, what do you have to complain about?
I have backstories already worked out for Federation and Romulan characters, so now I get to think like a Klingon (once again).
The only good Kobali is a dead Kobali.
will these delta recruit rewards be worth levelling another character doomed to never be used again
You Sir, win the internet for the day.:D
But that's where it gets tricky, because we know that it does do something for established accounts...
Like I posted in the PvP forums earlier in the day...
...they list the Temporal Insight trait - but will there be other things?
Basically, this toon - this disposable toon - that we'll be creating to pad their metrics, are we going to be doing so out of a feeling of need to get various goodies for the account?
This isn't like the Rep, R&D, Specialization stuff where we can say it will get done when it gets done. This isn't like an "Event' where it might take 5 minutes a day.
I'm curious and put off at the same time about just what grinding out this disposable toon is going to provide my actual guy.
Disposable toon...lol...I'll have to roll a red shirt.
edit: Course, as much as the whole thing is leaving me feeling like uninstalling...I still find myself wanting to make a joke about "If the badge fits.." and clipping of combadges with the breast slider.
edit2: I'm just having a hard time not picturing this as some continuing Starship Troopers crossover. There's Bug Hunt, there's the trench warfare, a recruitment drive...
At the same time, been wanting to create a Ferasan Engineer, my main is a KDF Eng, and I find that class the most fun for storyline playing.
Mostly KDF player, so looks like I'll be making a Ferasan Engineer, with three weeks to come up with a name.
By the time that event wraps up I should be just about hitting 1000 days, so that toon can settle into my Veteran Destroyer.
In the end Its one more toon to maurader on, as I normally Doff level my toons from 11-50. Even my doffing toons are hitting level 56 now. That will make it 10 KDF, to 5 feds (4 of which just sit as ESD turning in Contrabands.
Sorry not ready to jump on the hate train yet.
I don't think its a hate train. Its more of a "WHY????????? train.
Its only one of to things.... it was the lazy way to add some of the content and took the least amount of programming or its all part of a larger scheme to sell something.
It's been the end of STO since February 2010. I think Delta Recruits will just be another way STO is going to be ruined forever.
This. For the win.
It's just kinda sad, that probably most Delta Recruits won't make it that far ingame, as I believe people with existing accounts might want to stick to established characters and aren't particularly fond of continuing to play new characters from now on.
I feel the potential of interesting, new content is kinda wasted by restricting it to new characters only. While this probably is something great for new players, I feel that there should be something similarly rewarding for old players without forcing them to roll new characters to experience the new stuff.
Well, we'll see how this will turn out in the end.
I'd be singing it's praises across the internets.
As it sits now, may I remind you that three years of advertising and STO's free to play status - on top of the first two years of "subscription only" status has probably had just about every Star Trek fan with a computer and inkling to play an MMO based on Star Trek roll a character and check the place out.
This isn't like Champions Online where you can throw an event like this in an attempt to suck in genre (superhero) fans with promises of "shinies, competitiveness, and able to play with the old guard in two months".
This is a game where the Name, and therefore License, are the draws. As I've said, you've pretty much tapped everyone of them already. They might have left years ago over Dilithium and/or F2P. Or Fleet Bases. Or Reputations.
Those are the players you need to re-engage. And if the current forumbase is any indication, many many of them won't come back based on what they see and hear from their friend(s) who may have stuck it out longer than them - or might even be amongst us right now...
To rob a line: [quote: Mariemaia Kushrenada] Forum Posting is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever. However, opinions will change upon the reading of my post.[/quote]
There really isn't a "gap". It all boils down to much $$ you spend. The only benefit I have from time is the fact I have just had longer to collect stuff. But your grandma could start playing today and if she spent her SS check on zen she could be just as badass as you, maybe more so.
You also made all of us all equal in Delta Rising (ITBEEAPLI). We all had to get 60, grind spec points and upgrade everything. Again someone who just started last week, if they spend enough $$ can have better stuff than me.
One way you could close the gap is to just slash most all the c store prices by 1/2
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also to add that, a lot of "new" players really aren't trekkers per se. the ip isn't really that important to them. they are mostly concerned which torp is the most bugged atm giving the most dps. so the ip suffers and that turns off older players.
Buffy was good at having a seasonal big bad - but the writers here have written themselves into a corner with a very big big bad. Hard to come back from beating them.
My friend pointed out though that the war might last 2 years, which is something I hadn't considered - so I'm remaining optimistic for now.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
2409 started in 2010...2410 started in 2014. It could be 2018 before 2411 and 2022 before 2412. Lasting 2 years would be highly optimistic.