Wish Feds and KDF could get the Rom's Disrupting Photons...not Disruptor Energy, no...but a Photon with a Disruptor proc is fun.
And well, to be honest, there are so many drawbacks to the torp - I'm still trying to figure out who would want it. It's not a good fit for a Kinetic person and it's not really a good fit for an Energy person...it reads more like just a fun goofball thing for somebody that's not really into any sort of performance. There are just way too many things that will not buff it...it's just AP and All Damage. There's all the traits that just won't affect it, but would affect an actual Projectile or Energy weapon. Going to run PWO DOFFs for it...what other torps...and if you're doing the AP consoles for it, then what about the other torps?
I'm having a hard time seeing it other than anything that might just look "cool" as opposed to being worthwhile...
Kind of like I'm flying around with the Ferengi Rapid Fire Missile and the Vaadwaur Polarons...all sorts of a failgasm going on there; but damn if it just doesn't look so completely cool in the process.
Without the damage dropoff from increased range. OMG...
You know whats really game breaking the fact that this torp doesn't do 50 percent more damage against the crystal entity. Shame on you for not applying this mod. We need the crystal entity dead before all 10 players warp in dammit. Pvers CRY RISE UP
Enough is enough, goodbye guys, it was a pleasure to PvP on your side.
I hope Star Trek Excalibur comes out as soon as this crappy mix of mechanics dies.
welcome to the club. too bad you probably blew a bunch of dough on upgrades before you couldn't take it anymore.
seriously, what is this torp for, other then to make pvp worse? the beemers that pve have no use for it, its only a credit to the spike damage meta, which only exists in pvp, and no one that wants a meaningful pvp experience would want something like this.
thats what my old STO time gets devoted to nowadays. and if i think something is imbalanced, i can just fix it myself! and there's no grinds! no pay walls!
Just rename the damn thing already..lets see. OP black hole destroyer. The Q killer. No. wait I got it. Lets name it Tiffany. Why? becasue thats my x-wifes name. A sucubus from hell from witch there is no return. FIRST!!!! you will feel the pain and finally in the end. when you relize there is NOTHING you can do. You will die. Yes. Tiffany it is. Name yours what you will but my one hit wonder will be named Tiffany.
Just rename the damn thing already..lets see. OP black hole destroyer. The Q killer. No. wait I got it. Lets name it Tiffany. Why? becasue thats my x-wifes name. A sucubus from hell from witch there is no return. FIRST!!!! you will feel the pain and finally in the end. when you relize there is NOTHING you can do. You will die. Yes. Tiffany it is. Name yours what you will but my one hit wonder will be named Tiffany.
Damn hate when woman won't let you play STO while they are home. What a *****!
welcome to the club. too bad you probably blew a bunch of dough on upgrades before you couldn't take it anymore.
seriously, what is this torp for, other then to make pvp worse? the beemers that pve have no use for it, its only a credit to the spike damage meta, which only exists in pvp, and no one that wants a meaningful pvp experience would want something like this.
thats what my old STO time gets devoted to nowadays. and if i think something is imbalanced, i can just fix it myself! and there's no grinds! no pay walls!
Upgrades? Nah, I only upgraded some consoles and a couple sets of DHCs. Good thing I know how to limit myself. Thanks for the link though, I'll have a look into it. STE is planned for this year stating devs, hopefully they'll maintain the promise.
Why, instead of creating new illogical and stupid stuff, devs don't try to create something to get OLD and CLASSIC stuff back to life ?
Why do they create an antiproton/neutronic/hyper-mega-galactic torpedoes instead of creating something to improove photon/quantum torpedoes ?
People like canon stuff, why do the devs don't make people happy ?
it would be easy ...
I understand that a society needs to earn money to stay alive, but they could make money without creating ridicoulus things ... they could make money by simply creating new versions of canon weapons.
Why the hell do we even care after all? We (with some exclusions) should just leave this game to rot. Let them have their powercreep more, and more, and more until they get bored for how easy NPCs are to kill and leave thinking how stupid they were to not think of gsme balance in the first place.
After CE hits, this piece of software will sign its death sentence. It's not like it didn't do it already, but it confirms it. Star Trek Excalibur is going to be the killer, and I can't wait for that day.
Why the hell do we even care after all? We (with some exclusions) should just leave this game to rot. Let them have their powercreep more, and more, and more until they get bored for how easy NPCs are to kill and leave thinking how stupid they were to not think of gsme balance in the first place.
After CE hits, this piece of software will sign its death sentence. It's not like it didn't do it already, but it confirms it. Star Trek Excalibur is going to be the killer, and I can't wait for that day.
Wait a minute ... what is this Star Trek Excalibur? Another Star Trek MMO ?
Wish Feds and KDF could get the Rom's Disrupting Photons...not Disruptor Energy, no...but a Photon with a Disruptor proc is fun.
And well, to be honest, there are so many drawbacks to the torp - I'm still trying to figure out who would want it. It's not a good fit for a Kinetic person and it's not really a good fit for an Energy person...it reads more like just a fun goofball thing for somebody that's not really into any sort of performance. There are just way too many things that will not buff it...it's just AP and All Damage. There's all the traits that just won't affect it, but would affect an actual Projectile or Energy weapon. Going to run PWO DOFFs for it...what other torps...and if you're doing the AP consoles for it, then what about the other torps?
I'm having a hard time seeing it other than anything that might just look "cool" as opposed to being worthwhile...
Kind of like I'm flying around with the Ferengi Rapid Fire Missile and the Vaadwaur Polarons...all sorts of a failgasm going on there; but damn if it just doesn't look so completely cool in the process.
This is going to be like the Pre-LOR Beam Overload "Double Tapping." Before LOR, with a little clever play, you could fire 2 Beam Overloads (Marion required back then for this) in very quick succession. The devs nerfed this by putting that shared abilities CD when one ability of a type is used... I.e. all cannon abilities go black for a while after one is used.
I see this torp as the return of that capability.
1. Due to the changes from the BO revamp a little while ago, it no longer drains power and always crits, though not the high magnitudes of the original BO.
2. Torps can get to high damage numbers on a critical spike.
Combine the 2 in succession, all while DHCs are still blazing (cannon, beam, torp abilities don't throw each other into shared CDs), and we are exactly back into a new form of "Beam Overload Double-Tapping" but with something else filling in for the 2nd BO. A bunch of folks around here were quite a bit annoyed by the BO Double Tap.
Why the hell do we even care after all? We (with some exclusions) should just leave this game to rot. Let them have their powercreep more, and more, and more until they get bored for how easy NPCs are to kill and leave thinking how stupid they were to not think of gsme balance in the first place.
After CE hits, this piece of software will sign its death sentence. It's not like it didn't do it already, but it confirms it. Star Trek Excalibur is going to be the killer, and I can't wait for that day.
I seriously don't see what all the fuss is about.
I seriously don't. This is a noob weapon. This is a weapon they have designed for people that invested heavily in antiproton beams and dual beams and plasma doping embassy consoles that they took of in one nice swoop from them.
You know for certain that torp people won't use it, you also know that FAW people won't use it, let alone BO/CRF people, only ones that will and will benefit from it are people that have 0 clue about energy weapons and torpedos anyway.
I mean this is the stupidest torpedo ever, but it won't change anything for PvP. I just don't see it.
But still i will reserve my judgement until i see what TS and HY on this thing do.
I seriously don't see what all the fuss is about.
I seriously don't. This is a noob weapon. This is a weapon they have designed for people that invested heavily in antiproton beams and dual beams and plasma doping embassy consoles that they took of in one nice swoop from them.
You know for certain that torp people won't use it, you also know that FAW people won't use it, let alone BO/CRF people, only ones that will and will benefit from it are people that have 0 clue about energy weapons and torpedos anyway.
I mean this is the stupidest torpedo ever, but it won't change anything for PvP. I just don't see it.
But still i will reserve my judgement until i see what TS and HY on this thing do.
lol, this will be as powerful as broken neutronic spread 3, at least! noob weapon, not worth a fuss, wont change anything for pvp, HA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ya. oh and if you don't use this with like TS3 along with BO and CRF, you must hate free, guarantied kills.
Also, aside from all of that, it's really freakin' pretty. Seriously - you guys should see this thing in action, it's gorgeous.
...and it just being a "teehee, pretty" sort of thing.
For the folks talking about the return of the 2x BO from using a BO and HY with this...
...guess they haven't been running SS, HY/TS Neut, Isokinetic, Isometric, Refracting, Protonic and all the rest. How about some old fashioned Elachi CRF, EWO BO Pen, and a HY E-Bio, yeah? The list goes on and on and on and on full of things.
Ya know the funny thing? This torpedo, when run with antiproton boosters, will be exactly what those who wanted torps to be as devastating as they were in canon wanted. It even looks close enough to be a photon torp if you squint a little.
Just think - a torpedo that slams both shields and hull equally in a single large payload. Aka canon-style.
No particular opinion on how it will affect things, though. New shiny. I'll just get it for the cosmetics.
Ya know the funny thing? This torpedo, when run with antiproton boosters, will be exactly what those who wanted torps to be as devastating as they were in canon wanted. It even looks close enough to be a photon torp if you squint a little.
Just think - a torpedo that slams both shields and hull equally in a single large payload. Aka canon-style.
No particular opinion on how it will affect things, though. New shiny. I'll just get it for the cosmetics.
You know, that's an interesting way to look at it. I was one of those clamoring for "canon" level torpedoes. It would have been simpler to get rid of the inherently high kinetic resists shields have.
It's probably going to pave the way for other types. Disruptor, Phaser, etc.
It's why I asked for a buff for it in that main thread. There have been several folks that have outright done the wtf/facepalm at it.
I still think it comes down to what Bort said here...
...and it just being a "teehee, pretty" sort of thing.
For the folks talking about the return of the 2x BO from using a BO and HY with this...
...guess they haven't been running SS, HY/TS Neut, Isokinetic, Isometric, Refracting, Protonic and all the rest. How about some old fashioned Elachi CRF, EWO BO Pen, and a HY E-Bio, yeah? The list goes on and on and on and on full of things.
This torp screams goofball..."teehee, pretty!"
We will see, i need to know the modifier for TS. Can be a goofball, base for MK XIII weapon is lower then grav, bio, quantum, neutronic by nearly 1k.(it's blue but still)
but if its pretty... lol
@DDIS i don't know what you see in that torp that makes it teh best torp ever, it's not even a torp.
This has no AoE drain component that made neutronic such a killer. You should check neutronic now, you can hardly kill a decent player with it now that drain can be resisted and dmg is normal.
and how can AP torp change pvp when it will be available to obtain for not even a whole month? and it only benefits from AP consoles, while neutronic needed no consoles to do its dirty deeds.
What is so special about it?
I killed players for 100k+ Bio HY or 150k Thalaron pre DR.
People shot people with 100k BO since forever.
Im yet to see someone threaten to leave teh game because of above mentioned lol.
We will see, i need to know the modifier for TS. Can be a goofball, base for MK XIII weapon is lower then grav, bio, quantum, neutronic by nearly 1k.(it's blue but still)
but if its pretty... lol
Thing is, they haven't told us what the base is. We've got no idea what skills/gear were equipped on the ship that the tooltip picture was taken.
3584.2 with a Rare Mk XIII torpedo...but what else is going on there, yeah?
Say there were no skills/AP boosts involved for the image.
Rare would be 0.05 and the Mk XIII would provide 1.2 and 0.4 for 1.6, giving us a 1.65 Strength boost in play. That would be a 2172.2 base.
But what are the odds that there were 9 Starship Weapon Training and Starship Projectile Weapons in play there (if SPW boosts it, they still haven't updated the tooltip). That would mean another 0.495 for each, giving us 0.99 to add to that 1.65 - giving us a 2.64 Strength boost. That would be a 1357.7 or so base.
Which gets into the realm of figuring that there was some rounding going on there...and...well, 1352 is the base for Photons. So it's likely that a Photon was the "template" torp for this, and that 1352 is the actual base for it, yeah?
With that in mind, we can go through and work out the potential numbers for it from there...mostly.
Crystalline Energy Torpedo Launcher Mk XIV [Ac/Dm][CrtD][CrtH][???][???]
Depends on the mods at VR/UR...and also whether it keeps the AP's innate CrtD which would be another [CrtD], yeah?
Likely to show as 8555.9 in the tooltip sort of thing. Will skip the potential Bonus boosts for a moment to look at the standard HY3/TS3 boosts and what that would mean...
Course, that would need to be multiplied by any Bonus boosts (including if it Crits)...as well as going back to work in [AMP] if it was in play. Would have to reduce it if there were only 3 or 4 of the AP Locators, etc in play. Then again, if it was a SS vape build...might actually be Exploiters in play instead.
Gets a bit complicated as one could get into all the various scenarios there.
edit: Course, Bort's told us that the tooltip's not quite right...so until they drop out the right one...
and how can AP torp change pvp when it will be available to obtain for not even a whole month? and it only benefits from AP consoles, while neutronic needed no consoles to do its dirty deeds.
What is so special about it?
why would you ask questions that stupid, as if you were some clueless pve noob?
availability? irrelevant, 21 days to get 14 tokens. no one that wants it has a chance of not getting it.
this is the first torp you can use with an otherwise energy build that doesn't make your build a rainbow, or relays on a deeply bugged item.
this deals energy damage, it does not deal with an over 90% shield resistance. it doesn't need to deal 150k damage to barely kill a damaged target with a 40k hitpoint pool, like a HY bio.
I killed players for 100k+ Bio HY or 150k Thalaron pre DR.
People shot people with 100k BO since forever.
Im yet to see someone threaten to leave teh game because of above mentioned lol.
this torp is another one of those '100k hits' to pile on, and at the same time synergizes perfectly with an all energy build. god, the meek have inherited pvp if this seriously has to be explained.
Just rename the damn thing already..lets see. OP black hole destroyer. The Q killer. No. wait I got it. Lets name it Tiffany. Why? becasue thats my x-wifes name. A sucubus from hell from witch there is no return. FIRST!!!! you will feel the pain and finally in the end. when you relize there is NOTHING you can do. You will die. Yes. Tiffany it is. Name yours what you will but my one hit wonder will be named Tiffany.
Funny, that's my ex-wife to a T... including the name...
Have to wait and see. Just the lack of power drain will make it better, if it does comparable DPS. The ability to spike also has a lot of potential. If it sucks on either or both, nobody will care.
I seriously don't see what all the fuss is about.
I seriously don't. This is a noob weapon. This is a weapon they have designed for people that invested heavily in antiproton beams and dual beams and plasma doping embassy consoles that they took of in one nice swoop from them.
You know for certain that torp people won't use it, you also know that FAW people won't use it, let alone BO/CRF people, only ones that will and will benefit from it are people that have 0 clue about energy weapons and torpedos anyway.
I mean this is the stupidest torpedo ever, but it won't change anything for PvP. I just don't see it.
But still i will reserve my judgement until i see what TS and HY on this thing do.
This torp does seem pretty nutso and it feels like a slap in the face as a torp lover myself.
I'm at a loss of words at the moment...I was really starting to like some of the effort they were putting into the game the last few weeks then *this*. I don't know...the ship I truly want is out of reach...the torps I love constantly ignored...and now this thing.
Can't have a honest conversation because of a white knight with power
If the Torpedo cooldown Doffs effect it, things could get hilarious. No double taps allowed, but a tap per second for the 10 or so seconds your alpha lasts? That is fine!
Old Neutronic buffed by energy consoles, has no drawbacks for equipping, blasts through shields.
Old Neutronic had a broken TS3 mod and a base damage higher than Quantum's.And not forget about radiation component.Ok it kind of paid with longer time between shots.
This torpedo is interesting at least will make PVP more lively at least by bringing something new in old builds.
I think it has low base damage tough and what is the time between shots for it?.You will need a tactical seat as high LTC for using it with TS3.It can be a very bad torpedo if it has lets say something like 5 minute between shots
FBP people will love this torpedo ,PVE people will love ,some PVP-ers will love it too and some (mostly flying Vesta's) probably will hate firstly .
My guess is that for next 3 months it will be a nice plaything after that it will be outclassed by next OP thing or "adjusted" to oblivion as anything new in this game.
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Without the damage dropoff from increased range. OMG...
Wish Feds and KDF could get the Rom's Disrupting Photons...not Disruptor Energy, no...but a Photon with a Disruptor proc is fun.
And well, to be honest, there are so many drawbacks to the torp - I'm still trying to figure out who would want it. It's not a good fit for a Kinetic person and it's not really a good fit for an Energy person...it reads more like just a fun goofball thing for somebody that's not really into any sort of performance. There are just way too many things that will not buff it...it's just AP and All Damage. There's all the traits that just won't affect it, but would affect an actual Projectile or Energy weapon. Going to run PWO DOFFs for it...what other torps...and if you're doing the AP consoles for it, then what about the other torps?
I'm having a hard time seeing it other than anything that might just look "cool" as opposed to being worthwhile...
Kind of like I'm flying around with the Ferengi Rapid Fire Missile and the Vaadwaur Polarons...all sorts of a failgasm going on there; but damn if it just doesn't look so completely cool in the process.
You know whats really game breaking the fact that this torp doesn't do 50 percent more damage against the crystal entity. Shame on you for not applying this mod. We need the crystal entity dead before all 10 players warp in dammit. Pvers CRY RISE UP
welcome to the club. too bad you probably blew a bunch of dough on upgrades before you couldn't take it anymore.
seriously, what is this torp for, other then to make pvp worse? the beemers that pve have no use for it, its only a credit to the spike damage meta, which only exists in pvp, and no one that wants a meaningful pvp experience would want something like this.
as far as filling your need for trek, the armada 3 mod is definitely the best way to scratch the itch
http://www.moddb.com/mods/star-trek-armada-3
thats what my old STO time gets devoted to nowadays. and if i think something is imbalanced, i can just fix it myself! and there's no grinds! no pay walls!
Damn hate when woman won't let you play STO while they are home. What a *****!
Upgrades? Nah, I only upgraded some consoles and a couple sets of DHCs. Good thing I know how to limit myself. Thanks for the link though, I'll have a look into it. STE is planned for this year stating devs, hopefully they'll maintain the promise.
Why, instead of creating new illogical and stupid stuff, devs don't try to create something to get OLD and CLASSIC stuff back to life ?
Why do they create an antiproton/neutronic/hyper-mega-galactic torpedoes instead of creating something to improove photon/quantum torpedoes ?
People like canon stuff, why do the devs don't make people happy ?
it would be easy ...
I understand that a society needs to earn money to stay alive, but they could make money without creating ridicoulus things ... they could make money by simply creating new versions of canon weapons.
After CE hits, this piece of software will sign its death sentence. It's not like it didn't do it already, but it confirms it. Star Trek Excalibur is going to be the killer, and I can't wait for that day.
Wait a minute ... what is this Star Trek Excalibur? Another Star Trek MMO ?
If it's even half the game this is with pvp you can kiss this one goodbye.
It's an unlicensed indie project where they hope being non-commercial won't have the lawyers knocking at the door.
Is that what Jorf is working on?
This is going to be like the Pre-LOR Beam Overload "Double Tapping." Before LOR, with a little clever play, you could fire 2 Beam Overloads (Marion required back then for this) in very quick succession. The devs nerfed this by putting that shared abilities CD when one ability of a type is used... I.e. all cannon abilities go black for a while after one is used.
I see this torp as the return of that capability.
1. Due to the changes from the BO revamp a little while ago, it no longer drains power and always crits, though not the high magnitudes of the original BO.
2. Torps can get to high damage numbers on a critical spike.
Combine the 2 in succession, all while DHCs are still blazing (cannon, beam, torp abilities don't throw each other into shared CDs), and we are exactly back into a new form of "Beam Overload Double-Tapping" but with something else filling in for the 2nd BO. A bunch of folks around here were quite a bit annoyed by the BO Double Tap.
I seriously don't see what all the fuss is about.
I seriously don't. This is a noob weapon. This is a weapon they have designed for people that invested heavily in antiproton beams and dual beams and plasma doping embassy consoles that they took of in one nice swoop from them.
You know for certain that torp people won't use it, you also know that FAW people won't use it, let alone BO/CRF people, only ones that will and will benefit from it are people that have 0 clue about energy weapons and torpedos anyway.
I mean this is the stupidest torpedo ever, but it won't change anything for PvP. I just don't see it.
But still i will reserve my judgement until i see what TS and HY on this thing do.
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lol, this will be as powerful as broken neutronic spread 3, at least! noob weapon, not worth a fuss, wont change anything for pvp, HA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ya. oh and if you don't use this with like TS3 along with BO and CRF, you must hate free, guarantied kills.
It's why I asked for a buff for it in that main thread. There have been several folks that have outright done the wtf/facepalm at it.
I still think it comes down to what Bort said here...
...and it just being a "teehee, pretty" sort of thing.
For the folks talking about the return of the 2x BO from using a BO and HY with this...
...guess they haven't been running SS, HY/TS Neut, Isokinetic, Isometric, Refracting, Protonic and all the rest. How about some old fashioned Elachi CRF, EWO BO Pen, and a HY E-Bio, yeah? The list goes on and on and on and on full of things.
This torp screams goofball..."teehee, pretty!"
Just think - a torpedo that slams both shields and hull equally in a single large payload. Aka canon-style.
No particular opinion on how it will affect things, though. New shiny. I'll just get it for the cosmetics.
You know, that's an interesting way to look at it. I was one of those clamoring for "canon" level torpedoes. It would have been simpler to get rid of the inherently high kinetic resists shields have.
It's probably going to pave the way for other types. Disruptor, Phaser, etc.
We will see, i need to know the modifier for TS. Can be a goofball, base for MK XIII weapon is lower then grav, bio, quantum, neutronic by nearly 1k.(it's blue but still)
but if its pretty... lol
@DDIS i don't know what you see in that torp that makes it teh best torp ever, it's not even a torp.
This has no AoE drain component that made neutronic such a killer. You should check neutronic now, you can hardly kill a decent player with it now that drain can be resisted and dmg is normal.
and how can AP torp change pvp when it will be available to obtain for not even a whole month? and it only benefits from AP consoles, while neutronic needed no consoles to do its dirty deeds.
What is so special about it?
I killed players for 100k+ Bio HY or 150k Thalaron pre DR.
People shot people with 100k BO since forever.
Im yet to see someone threaten to leave teh game because of above mentioned lol.
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Thing is, they haven't told us what the base is. We've got no idea what skills/gear were equipped on the ship that the tooltip picture was taken.
3584.2 with a Rare Mk XIII torpedo...but what else is going on there, yeah?
Say there were no skills/AP boosts involved for the image.
Rare would be 0.05 and the Mk XIII would provide 1.2 and 0.4 for 1.6, giving us a 1.65 Strength boost in play. That would be a 2172.2 base.
But what are the odds that there were 9 Starship Weapon Training and Starship Projectile Weapons in play there (if SPW boosts it, they still haven't updated the tooltip). That would mean another 0.495 for each, giving us 0.99 to add to that 1.65 - giving us a 2.64 Strength boost. That would be a 1357.7 or so base.
Which gets into the realm of figuring that there was some rounding going on there...and...well, 1352 is the base for Photons. So it's likely that a Photon was the "template" torp for this, and that 1352 is the actual base for it, yeah?
With that in mind, we can go through and work out the potential numbers for it from there...mostly.
Crystalline Energy Torpedo Launcher Mk XIV [Ac/Dm][CrtD][CrtH][???][???]
Depends on the mods at VR/UR...and also whether it keeps the AP's innate CrtD which would be another [CrtD], yeah?
Base: 1352
+9 Starship Weapon Training: + (0.495 * 1352) = + 669.24 = 2021.24
+9 Starship Projectile Weapons: + (0.495 * 1352) = + 669.24 = 2690.48
+Uncommon->Ultra Rare: + ((0.025 * 4) * 1352) = + 135.2 = 2825.68
+Epic: + (0.05 * 1352) = + 67.6 = 2893.28
+Mk 0->XII: + ((0.1 * 12) * 1352) = + 1622.4 = 4515.68
+Mk XIII: + (0.4 * 1352) = + 540.8 = 5056.48
+Mk XIV: + (0.7 * 1352) = + 946.4 = 6020.88
5x G14 AP Locators: + ((0.375 * 5) * 1352) = + 2535 = 8555.88
Likely to show as 8555.9 in the tooltip sort of thing. Will skip the potential Bonus boosts for a moment to look at the standard HY3/TS3 boosts and what that would mean...
HY3 (296.8%): 8555.88 * 2.968 = 25393.85184
TS3 (230%): 8555.88 * 2.3 = 19678.524 (each target)
Course, that would need to be multiplied by any Bonus boosts (including if it Crits)...as well as going back to work in [AMP] if it was in play. Would have to reduce it if there were only 3 or 4 of the AP Locators, etc in play. Then again, if it was a SS vape build...might actually be Exploiters in play instead.
Gets a bit complicated as one could get into all the various scenarios there.
edit: Course, Bort's told us that the tooltip's not quite right...so until they drop out the right one...
it uses torp skills, torp skills like TS3. the kinetic beam doesn't even use beam skills, this is more a torp then that is a beam.
the drain was never noticeable, being instantly killed was. nerfed, i imagine HY bio is the most deadly torp again.
why would you ask questions that stupid, as if you were some clueless pve noob?
availability? irrelevant, 21 days to get 14 tokens. no one that wants it has a chance of not getting it.
this is the first torp you can use with an otherwise energy build that doesn't make your build a rainbow, or relays on a deeply bugged item.
this deals energy damage, it does not deal with an over 90% shield resistance. it doesn't need to deal 150k damage to barely kill a damaged target with a 40k hitpoint pool, like a HY bio.
this torp is another one of those '100k hits' to pile on, and at the same time synergizes perfectly with an all energy build. god, the meek have inherited pvp if this seriously has to be explained.
Hence my earlier comment that we are now going to return to the days of the Pre-LOR BO Double-Tapping
Funny, that's my ex-wife to a T... including the name...
Fleet Defiant Kinetic Heavy Fire Support | Fleet Manticore Kinetic Strike Ship | Tactical Command Kinetic Siege Refit | Fleet Defiant Quantum Phase Escort | Fleet Valiant Kinetic Heavy Fire Support
Turning the Galaxy-X into a Torpedo Dreadnought & torpedo tutorial, with written torpedo guide.
"A good weapon and a great strategy will win you many battles." - Marshall
I knew using Kinetics would be playing the game on hard mode, but what I didn't realize was how bad the deck is stacked against Kinetics.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=22607441&postcount=80
Any way you slice it, it's an insult to everyone who doesn't use AP.
Fleet Defiant Kinetic Heavy Fire Support | Fleet Manticore Kinetic Strike Ship | Tactical Command Kinetic Siege Refit | Fleet Defiant Quantum Phase Escort | Fleet Valiant Kinetic Heavy Fire Support
Turning the Galaxy-X into a Torpedo Dreadnought & torpedo tutorial, with written torpedo guide.
"A good weapon and a great strategy will win you many battles." - Marshall
I knew using Kinetics would be playing the game on hard mode, but what I didn't realize was how bad the deck is stacked against Kinetics.
I'm at a loss of words at the moment...I was really starting to like some of the effort they were putting into the game the last few weeks then *this*. I don't know...the ship I truly want is out of reach...the torps I love constantly ignored...and now this thing.
How the hell can you possibly defend that torpedo. ._."
DDIS already explained why, and I'm going to repeat it.
Old Neutronic buffed by energy consoles, has no drawbacks for equipping, blasts through shields.
Old Neutronic had a broken TS3 mod and a base damage higher than Quantum's.And not forget about radiation component.Ok it kind of paid with longer time between shots.
This torpedo is interesting at least will make PVP more lively at least
I think it has low base damage tough and what is the time between shots for it?.You will need a tactical seat as high LTC for using it with TS3.It can be a very bad torpedo if it has lets say something like 5 minute between shots
FBP people will love this torpedo ,PVE people will love ,some PVP-ers will love it too and some (mostly flying Vesta's) probably will hate firstly .
My guess is that for next 3 months it will be a nice plaything after that it will be outclassed by next OP thing or "adjusted" to oblivion as anything new in this game.
I refuse to be content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwI0u9L4R8U