While dusting off an Alt on the Kdf side I discovered that they have way better DOff missions generating tons of Commodities and prisoners for Dill along with multiple "turn in prisoners for Dill" missions.
Because the Federation slaps people on the hand and sends them home without lunch. They don't take prisoners and then dump them on a frozen moon to mine until death parts them from the ore. They also don't ambush freighters and pillage outposts.
Captain Jean-Luc Picard: "We think we've come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches, it's all ancient history. Then - before you can blink an eye - suddenly it threatens to start all over again."
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Also you can get a lot more dilithium and cryptic will never ask you to pay for anything.
They release bad ships once a year.
Your zen can just build up.
not completly sure sicne kdf is so underpopulated so it can fall under radar, but yeah threads like this just bring unwanted attention.
so just play kdf and be silent, and posibly cerate more kfd chars so we will have bigger chance for new kdf content.
Captain Jean-Luc Picard: "We think we've come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches, it's all ancient history. Then - before you can blink an eye - suddenly it threatens to start all over again."
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
not completly sure sicne kdf is so underpopulated so it can fall under radar, but yeah threads like this just bring unwanted attention.
so just play kdf and be silent, and posibly cerate more kfd chars so we will have bigger chance for new kdf content.
I'm pretty sure mine isn't the first post about this subject as I remember posts about the superior amounts of Contraband harvestable by the KDF.
While dusting off an Alt on the Kdf side I discovered that they have way better DOff missions generating tons of Commodities and prisoners for Dill along with multiple "turn in prisoners for Dill" missions.
Oh no, KDF has fun. Nerf it to death. Nobody enjoys KDF. Never. Ever.
The dil was good during the dil bonus... but I probably got at least as much doing the Undine Battlespace. It is nice to double dip on the dil grind, of course.
Yeah, you get Prisoners (which can clog up your Mission Log if you get too many) and Commodities (which definitely clog up inventory). Prisoners convert into Dil or Latinum, and I keep a rare Vorta Prisoner on hand for the occasional Interrogation missions (especially since I haven't gotten level 60 yet).
The Commodities thing kind of stinks when you're well into space & a ton of Missions wrap up, and then your inventory becomes overflowing with junk Provisions & Medical Supplies.
While dusting off an Alt on the Kdf side I discovered that they have way better DOff missions generating tons of Commodities and prisoners for Dill along with multiple "turn in prisoners for Dill" missions.
true, on the contriband and prisoners, and once you buy a ship you get an endless supply of plasmonic leech
but
these things have apparently not been much of an incentive
kdf is sitting at 16% and if you include kdf-roms it's probably 18-19%
that's a staggering difference
kdf also has less ships, which I'm fine with - parsing through fed ship lists is the worst, too many to choose from, but the artwork is nice
kdf also has less content I believe, I remember playing through fed side, it was like walking through all the tv episodes
but I imagine creating kdf content is difficult, lets face it, they vital and important and the original main villain, but are secondary characters in the show
but ... with the rise of thug-diplomacy again (russia) perhaps there will be some more development inspiration for klingons
While dusting off an Alt on the Kdf side I discovered that they have way better DOff missions generating tons of Commodities and prisoners for Dill along with multiple "turn in prisoners for Dill" missions.
belive me, it doesn't worth what feds have.
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Playing STO spamming FAW is like playing chess using always the computer's suggested moves
What?! Someone playing STO and having fun while doing so? How dare you! The audacity! I cannot believe the sheer gall it takes to do something like this and then come in here to brag about it!
You're in big trouble, mister. Big trouble! When Geko reads this, he's gonna go ballistic! The game's gonna get nerfed so hard, even your great aunt Matilda's funeral won't have a nanogram of fun left it!
Get yer butt back over to Argala and start grinding again with the rest of the untermenshen, err... players!
And I mean right now!
Fun while playing STO! Whoever heard of such a crazy idea? Kids these days...
A six year old boy and his starship. Living the dream.
So, Feds have Diplomacy and get warm fuzzy feelings from talking, KDF get Marauding and gain profit/contraband from taking what is rightfully theirs (because they were able to take it from whomever...). Feds still have some missions that also give them diplomacy CXP and one that gives that plus 480 dilithium without ever having to fire a shot (rescue deferi prisoners), while kdf have no missions that give marauding CXP and can do the same deferi mission but have to kill all the breen to get credit and the 480 dilithium reward and no marauding CXP.
Doffing for the KDF is the last little bit of immersion we still have. We go to do anything since, well, a long time back, and the "agnostic" missions treat us like we are all feds, with occasional (but not often) changed wording. In the DR storyline if I act like a Klingon I get criticized by a former borg for doing what the mission requires I do...WTF? If you want to play a Fed and have all the shinies that Cryptic throws out there for you (including most things the KDF once had), play a Fed and deal with the doff missions you have. If you enjoy the KDF doff missions, then play a KDF character and make due with the rest of what we have to offer and enjoy the game more.
Doffing for the KDF is the last little bit of immersion we still have. We go to do anything since, well, a long time back, and the "agnostic" missions treat us like we are all feds, with occasional (but not often) changed wording. In the DR storyline if I act like a Klingon I get criticized by a former borg for doing what the mission requires I do...WTF? If you want to play a Fed and have all the shinies that Cryptic throws out there for you (including most things the KDF once had), play a Fed and deal with the doff missions you have. If you enjoy the KDF doff missions, then play a KDF character and make due with the rest of what we have to offer and enjoy the game more.
Yeah, well put. Oddly enough as it sounds it feels fun and klingon-ish to run around and set the marauding doff missions and other sorts of tough-guy missions. They are a good reflection of the sphere/genre I made the character for. And reward is a part of that. I'd be sorry to see it get re-orged for whatever reason, especially when the game is so biased to fed.
Anyone fed-side actively complaining about this (I believe) is a bad influence on the conversation about this game. It's like "ok, I have 80% of all the cookies but that's not enough, give me 90/100!!!". ((((op doesn't appear to be doing this, just having a hey-look-at-this moment, but I'm sure some people would))))
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
They release bad ships once a year.
Your zen can just build up.
So the kdf is the ultimate f2p experience.
What Happens in Two Months?
It gets nerfed. Because of metrics... and of course stupid threads like those.
so just play kdf and be silent, and posibly cerate more kfd chars so we will have bigger chance for new kdf content.
Revamp of sector space.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
I'm pretty sure mine isn't the first post about this subject as I remember posts about the superior amounts of Contraband harvestable by the KDF.
Oh no, KDF has fun. Nerf it to death. Nobody enjoys KDF. Never. Ever.
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Yeah, you get Prisoners (which can clog up your Mission Log if you get too many) and Commodities (which definitely clog up inventory). Prisoners convert into Dil or Latinum, and I keep a rare Vorta Prisoner on hand for the occasional Interrogation missions (especially since I haven't gotten level 60 yet).
The Commodities thing kind of stinks when you're well into space & a ton of Missions wrap up, and then your inventory becomes overflowing with junk Provisions & Medical Supplies.
Still, it's more fun than Fed DOffing.
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I hope some s*it happens in Delta, and Jmpok snaps out of his madness...
Know the difference
It could save your life...
Feds don't raid or deal in contraband hence the lack of such missiong for that faction.
true, on the contriband and prisoners, and once you buy a ship you get an endless supply of plasmonic leech
but
these things have apparently not been much of an incentive
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9065123-star-trek-online-5-year-anniversary-infographic
kdf is sitting at 16% and if you include kdf-roms it's probably 18-19%
that's a staggering difference
kdf also has less ships, which I'm fine with - parsing through fed ship lists is the worst, too many to choose from, but the artwork is nice
kdf also has less content I believe, I remember playing through fed side, it was like walking through all the tv episodes
but I imagine creating kdf content is difficult, lets face it, they vital and important and the original main villain, but are secondary characters in the show
but ... with the rise of thug-diplomacy again (russia) perhaps there will be some more development inspiration for klingons
well, one would think so
but
it's not used/abused by people, probably only 18% of captains are kdf
so
it would be like nerfing something that's seldom used
no upside
only downside
No different than the "evil Mark Hoarding", that just got nerfed ... "Abuse" is what Cryptic tells you ...
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Delta Rising is the best expansion ever , and the players love
Have a nice Day
*The nerf hits and the fun KDF Doff missions dissapear*
I don't want it nerfed I want in on it on my other factions!
But they could do something else that gives them the equivalent rewards or would that be impinging on the KDF's uniqueness like Feds having cloaks?
belive me, it doesn't worth what feds have.
Playing STO spamming FAW is like playing chess using always the computer's suggested moves
You're in big trouble, mister. Big trouble! When Geko reads this, he's gonna go ballistic! The game's gonna get nerfed so hard, even your great aunt Matilda's funeral won't have a nanogram of fun left it!
Get yer butt back over to Argala and start grinding again with the rest of the untermenshen, err... players!
And I mean right now!
Fun while playing STO! Whoever heard of such a crazy idea? Kids these days...
I was just surprised at the rewards.
Doffing for the KDF is the last little bit of immersion we still have. We go to do anything since, well, a long time back, and the "agnostic" missions treat us like we are all feds, with occasional (but not often) changed wording. In the DR storyline if I act like a Klingon I get criticized by a former borg for doing what the mission requires I do...WTF? If you want to play a Fed and have all the shinies that Cryptic throws out there for you (including most things the KDF once had), play a Fed and deal with the doff missions you have. If you enjoy the KDF doff missions, then play a KDF character and make due with the rest of what we have to offer and enjoy the game more.
Yeah, well put. Oddly enough as it sounds it feels fun and klingon-ish to run around and set the marauding doff missions and other sorts of tough-guy missions. They are a good reflection of the sphere/genre I made the character for. And reward is a part of that. I'd be sorry to see it get re-orged for whatever reason, especially when the game is so biased to fed.
Anyone fed-side actively complaining about this (I believe) is a bad influence on the conversation about this game. It's like "ok, I have 80% of all the cookies but that's not enough, give me 90/100!!!". ((((op doesn't appear to be doing this, just having a hey-look-at-this moment, but I'm sure some people would))))
All those outfits and the Feds still want Orion clothes.
Ships on ships on ships Fedside and most of them are dirt next to the KDF lineup.
All that Sector Space to fly around in for doff missions and the KDF gets the better ones.