i agree there. hannibals post was ad hominem over the top.
but its not like you're not poking, right
That's another reason why I've distanced myself from this pathetic game: Besides the intense grinding, there are only a bunch of ingrateful cry babies left who are only capable of carrying out destructive instead of constructive critizism. In fact, they weren't even willing to support pvp-events in order to maintain activity in STO PvP. It's totally counterproductive and everything left from an once glorius community which I knew, too bad all of them are gone forever...
The amount of grind has become absurd. Not even pouring ridiculous $$$ solves the problem.
If it wasn't for the hefty time cost attached to DR, I am convinced some PvP fleets would still be alive and kicking.
So much intelligence, knowledge and passion snuffed out....
it had so much potential, ant is WAS so good. but of course, anyone who would voluntarily make and run something as toxic as an mmo, couldn't be trusted not to utterly ruin it with absurd grind and pay walls.
That's another reason why I've distanced myself from this pathetic game: Besides the intense grinding, there are only a bunch of ingrateful cry babies left who are only capable of carrying out destructive instead of constructive critizism. In fact, they weren't even willing to support pvp-events in order to maintain activity in STO PvP. It's totally counterproductive and everything left from an once glorius community which I knew, too bad all of them are gone forever...
....few seconds to elaborate.
Ok. I agree on the fact that most of the epic community we were part quitted after DR. Their legacy was picked up by random kids who, by using stuff that now is getting hit with nerf hammer, felt entitled to call themselves "PvPers". I couldn't get one of these yesterday to PvP 1v1 me Contortrix vs Tempest because he couldn't get off its (note: I'm not using him or her willingly) Manasa.
The stroking reply was "if I unload viral and intel it is just a contortrix"... if we don't count sci ship shields, way more maneuverable, the added boff slot. Latter was he just got facecritted by a 70k Nadion Bomb. Just one of the few examples of how they're good for nothing when they face reality.
Another example, a Surgical/Ionic spamming Faeht trying to countlessly (failed) vaping my Tempest. After being repeatedly smashed by a well placed Beam Overload he started moaning of how his character was still new, things like that. Just another wannabe PvPer.
Let's say it. Ionic, Viral, Neutronic, Armor Penetration, Surgical were the things that made many of the legendary PvPers leave. Ionic is going to be bare useless now, Viral we shall see but the double tap fix is good, Neutronic less powerful than my biomolecular now, Armor Penetration that was killing through shields. Surgical is the only one left. I think that if it gets addressed as well, many will return. And if they do, well I'll enjoy the newcomers, cheese-powered idiots being kicked left and right to their PvE reign.
That's another reason why I've distanced myself from this pathetic game: Besides the intense grinding, there are only a bunch of ingrateful cry babies left who are only capable of carrying out destructive instead of constructive critizism. In fact, they weren't even willing to support pvp-events in order to maintain activity in STO PvP. It's totally counterproductive and everything left from an once glorius community which I knew, too bad all of them are gone forever...
Let's not act like PvP was all about constructive criticism before as opposed to today. we all had our circles where things were dandy, but in clash of fleets, teams, pugs it was always like your exchange with beammedown, let's not kid ourselves.
Only difference: rage could be settle in the battlefield.
Upcoming major fixes(now on tribble) will maybe bring some of community back.
surgical strike got a fix on the tribble notes, wont be able to fire it from cloak here pretty soon so thats a good thing
but lets face facts here, they are going to chip away at some of the broken stuff from t6 over the next couple months and even if they do all that the dino players are still not going to be happy because its not escorts online anymore and never will be again
the claim to fame in the past was:
most the boff powers sucked/didnt work good for pvp OR pve- so you had this knowledge divide between the vets and the rookies, those that knew already what worked great and pvp and flew it vs those noobs that were wasting time trying to make junk boff combos work and getting killed in the cues daily for it, (sure, sure, the noobs would bump into other noobs and see their "boff combo" result in a kill or two, but in the end, the game was so broken from the start that if you didnt do the cookie cutter escort/ heal boat/ off-heal sci and ran a team with it, short of 2-3 subnukes your team was unstoppable in the cues vs the pugs)
pay to win was never better- get a bug, that simple, learn to fly a bug, even easier, apply cookie cutter build and get on a team that knows how to cross heal= win vs all but other likewise teams (and then the match would drag on for hours LOL thats a big F for fun), teamfortress, recluses, adapted battle crabs, timeships, all those did were re-enforce the abuse of the heal mechanics in the game and take advantage of a superior escort with no peer, THIS went on by the way for years in this game
lets give a hand for pug stomping!- its funny how you can track the amount of pug stomping that was going on nightly with the enthusiasm of most of the dino players, they would get in a few matches a night, most of those matches was a walk in the park, they got to high five over how great they were nightly with the occasional 5v5 that was fleet-made/friend-made that actually were set up right, then they would have their long, dragged out, hard fought match walking away with a sense of pride that they felt like they did something and it was a good fight (reality is, if all you can do is wait for the cooldown of 2-3 subnukes to get a kill in the match, then really how the hell is that anything close to a balanced system of powers and abilities in the game, OR what? wait for the other team to slip up after 45 minutes strait, AGAIN, how is that strategy? YOU were never in control of the match if that was the primary ways of getting a kill, "general, we are going to keep pouring troops on the field until the enemy FINALLY screws up, and then hopefully sir, we then may be able to take the hill" BUT HEY! these guys got to push buttons, fly around for a bit, feel like their doing something- they got their wins nightly off the pug stomps so that I guess, is all that it took to keep their interest in the game, TO HELL with options, TO HELL with diversity, TO HELL with fresh players having the tools and the ability to create something that works, TO HELL with all of that, the dino players wanted a cookie cutter pvp experiense where they could build to 1 obvious build, one obvious team makeup, and take it into match after match after match without having to change a thing
FINAL PART : LOL, kids, these guys that cry and complain every flipping day have been doing it for a few years now, ask anyone of these guys: should a tac captain do good in a sci ship for damage? should a sci captain do good in an escort? should a cruiser be able to do good damage? should there be cloakers in 5v5 matches? BETTER yet, should an engineer captain be able to do good dps? all of these above they will say no, or give some "well, not as good as a tac captain in an escort" answer- fact is these guys want tons of ships in the game, but they also want their to be just 1 good ship for each class, 1 good build for each class, and that those builds CUT through everything else, tac in a scort, eng doing healing in a cruiser, sci worthless except for being an off healer in a sci ship- thats their dream for this game, thats what they want to go back to- they want noobs flying all the junk ships so that they have something to shoot at and ridicule nightly- and when cryptic started to drift away from that junk balance in the game, when these dino players started getting poped in the cues left and right- they spazzed out and most quit the game (can you blame them? its like your a knight, you fight in armor with a sword, and then I come along with a gun and shoot you, cause its not the dark ages anymore, its modern warfare, and the knight, all hes ever known is how to fight with the sword, he cant adapt, all he can do is complain, AGAIN I really dont fault them for it, we are all products of our own eras, but in the same stroke theirs the powers balance issue, and if anyone tells ya it was more balanced in the past, YA it was balanced for escorts, and escorts alone)
balancing this game for escorts alone was in the end what killed pvp for this game years ago, I know plenty of die hard pvpers that walked away that spent good money in this game getting ships, learning about powers, and in the end walked away cause they saw the only thing that mattered for damage in pvp was a bug ship, and that all the other powers were junk, and the only way to run a solid team is do off healers and healers for the bug ships, AND god save you if you dont have at least 2 sci captains in their somewhere cause then it doesnt even matter, you will never get a kill LOL
couple came back, asked me what changed, I would tell them, "well now you can go into a cruiser and do damage, OR now you can make a romulan and cloak" but by the time they stated fixing the sci powers (and they still havent fixed all of them, let alone anything damage wise out of eng) I havent seen these guys back sinse, and can you blame them? how many years can you expect players to wait around until you get your act together with a powers tweak/balance pass? LOL
anyways, the games going full steam t6 and not looking back, and the rate they are bug fixing it will be the rapture before everything is sorted out correctly- BUT to try and paint a rosie picture that old seasons prior were WAY better is delusional, it only ment that once you knew what you were doing you did alot of no dying nightly and pug stomping sprinkled with some high-end fights that illustrated how worthless half the powers in the game really are
what was so great about the past was that your friends still played, that you still had excitement for the game, that everything still felt a little bit new and rough
its the same in any other mmo, these things are not built to be played for decades LOL, their designed to grab your attention for a year, maybe 2 tops, anyone that stays in beyond that will ALWAYS turn slowly into a jaded, angry, gamer- cause you want those old feelings back and theres NOTHING on this earth that can make them come back, so at least you can vent all the time to feel better:)
I know that I have stopped playing this game since like Thanksgiving... I do check back every once in awhile to see if they got their heads out of their aft thrusters, but I still see people complaining...
oh well, they aren't getting my money anymore... and that hurts them more than anything I could ever say on these forums..... doesn't it, cryptic??
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I know that I have stopped playing this game since like Thanksgiving... I do check back every once in awhile to see if they got their heads out of their aft thrusters, but I still see people complaining...
oh well, they aren't getting my money anymore... and that hurts them more than anything I could ever say on these forums..... doesn't it, cryptic??
Nah, those Delta Rising signature artwork doohickeys really hurt. 17x as much as somebody not buying a new ship.
Nah, those Delta Rising signature artwork doohickeys really hurt. 17x as much as somebody not buying a new ship.
One thing I have noticed is that a high percentage of pvp threads are being closed now (while looking back to see what I have missed). They aren't even bothering to give a reason anymore and it has become second nature at this point.
We should have a contest to see how many threads can be closed in one day, just to keep the mods busy LOL
I AM NOT A FAN OF PWE!!!!
MEMBER SINCE JANUARY 2010
One thing I have noticed is that a high percentage of pvp threads are being closed now (while looking back to see what I have missed). They aren't even bothering to give a reason anymore and it has become second nature at this point.
We should have a contest to see how many threads can be closed in one day, just to keep the mods busy LOL
I was kind of surprised to see Hank and Hannibal posting in this thread yesterday...made me go check the last time some of the folks had logged into the game. End of December, early January, and I think some toons were there third week. Shim, Snog, David, Hank, Hannibal...poof. Horizon's the only guy I ever see log on from time to time anymore...still off killing bad guys, heh.
I'm not really surprised to be honest though, I just cracked open the PVP Queues window (Fed).
0:00 Ground Arena 0 (min 10)
7:53 Ground Assault 5 (min 8)
0:00 Space Capture and Hold 3 (min 8)
0:00 Space Arena 4 (min 8)
0:00 Arena (Solo or Duo Queue) 4 (min 10)
0:00 Smallcraft Arena 0 (min 10)
And I think that's the best I've seen in it forever...course, I can't remember the last time I even tried to queue. Hell, I can't even remember the last time I went to Ker'rat. Was probably early Jan? Meh...
I couldn't imagine trying to do PvP with the UI stuff that's going on.
As far as trying to keep the mods busy, heh, I'm at that point in my posting career where I'm trying to stay off their radar for a bit.
I was kind of surprised to see Hank and Hannibal posting in this thread yesterday...made me go check the last time some of the folks had logged into the game. End of December, early January, and I think some toons were there third week. Shim, Snog, David, Hank, Hannibal...poof. Horizon's the only guy I ever see log on from time to time anymore...still off killing bad guys, heh.
I'm not really surprised to be honest though, I just cracked open the PVP Queues window (Fed).
0:00 Ground Arena 0 (min 10)
7:53 Ground Assault 5 (min 8)
0:00 Space Capture and Hold 3 (min 8)
0:00 Space Arena 4 (min 8)
0:00 Arena (Solo or Duo Queue) 4 (min 10)
0:00 Smallcraft Arena 0 (min 10)
And I think that's the best I've seen in it forever...course, I can't remember the last time I even tried to queue. Hell, I can't even remember the last time I went to Ker'rat. Was probably early Jan? Meh...
I couldn't imagine trying to do PvP with the UI stuff that's going on.
As far as trying to keep the mods busy, heh, I'm at that point in my posting career where I'm trying to stay off their radar for a bit.
If they ever make PvP like before LOR, I will be back, but all the TRIBBLE in this game now is just too much to keep track of....so many consoles, traits, powers, skills, etc.... every time I turned around, the game was completely different... a ship that was great one week, sucked the next week after they patched or released a new season... I got tired of trying to keep up.
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Watching the demise of the game, the mutation into something that can only be described as Imbeciles Online, really took its toll. I was trying to hang on to the game, but my passion and patience has run out of gas...
If they ever make PvP like before LOR, I will be back, but all the TRIBBLE in this game now is just too much to keep track of....so many consoles, traits, powers, skills, etc.... every time I turned around, the game was completely different... a ship that was great one week, sucked the next week after they patched or released a new season... I got tired of trying to keep up.
they ran out of ships and now they sell consoles and traits.Wait till they start selling boff manuals with unique powers....if you think the game is broken now wait till next lockbox @ season 10.
kill per kill the US defence budget is lower than what pve heroes pay to kill borgs.Basically pve players pay more to kill npcs than US pays to kill terrorists or whatever they kill.
I was kind of surprised to see Hank and Hannibal posting in this thread yesterday...made me go check the last time some of the folks had logged into the game. End of December, early January, and I think some toons were there third week. Shim, Snog, David, Hank, Hannibal...poof. Horizon's the only guy I ever see log on from time to time anymore...still off killing bad guys, heh.
I'm not really surprised to be honest though, I just cracked open the PVP Queues window (Fed).
0:00 Ground Arena 0 (min 10)
7:53 Ground Assault 5 (min 8)
0:00 Space Capture and Hold 3 (min 8)
0:00 Space Arena 4 (min 8)
0:00 Arena (Solo or Duo Queue) 4 (min 10)
0:00 Smallcraft Arena 0 (min 10)
And I think that's the best I've seen in it forever...course, I can't remember the last time I even tried to queue. Hell, I can't even remember the last time I went to Ker'rat. Was probably early Jan? Meh...
I couldn't imagine trying to do PvP with the UI stuff that's going on.
As far as trying to keep the mods busy, heh, I'm at that point in my posting career where I'm trying to stay off their radar for a bit.
yo virus ,
nice to see/read you after a while, yea it's unfortunate how things are running, these days. I'll probably reinstall the game to say hello if there's someone left to have a little talk after all
Watching the demise of the game, the mutation into something that can only be described as Imbeciles Online, really took its toll. I was trying to hang on to the game, but my passion and patience has run out of gas...
I need to refill. Dunno how long it'll take...
hank, let's hope that you haven't run out of gas visiting teamspeak every once in a while lol. But it's cool that you show a sign of life at least.
Heh, I changed from the IC sigs cause I didn't want to cause any grief for any of the other IC folks out there...have one of those "Who da f..." things where I suddenly found myself without a fleet, heh. So I just sit there quietly, tossing in contributions of anything I've got...while grabbing random things to test. Was funny the other day, I was buying Provisions cause some of the projects were just sitting there and I couldn't contribute until they started over...
With the way things are going with this game though, honestly, I can't see playing it any differently than the girlfriend plays her Farmerama game. I've even started calling DOFF assignments crops...got to plant my crops, got to harvest my crops...then off to watch Netflix or whatever.
Heh, I changed from the IC sigs cause I didn't want to cause any grief for any of the other IC folks out there...have one of those "Who da f..." things where I suddenly found myself without a fleet, heh. So I just sit there quietly, tossing in contributions of anything I've got...while grabbing random things to test. Was funny the other day, I was buying Provisions cause some of the projects were just sitting there and I couldn't contribute until they started over...
With the way things are going with this game though, honestly, I can't see playing it any differently than the girlfriend plays her Farmerama game. I've even started calling DOFF assignments crops...got to plant my crops, got to harvest my crops...then off to watch Netflix or whatever.
You've definitely indicated empathy and generosity with these moves. It's kinda an irony of fate that you and damian, the most recently joined members, are forming the last defence line of our fleet right now - the last men standing.
I am fully convinced that you'll be doing a great job over there and with both of you being left, the pvp department is in safe hands apart from the horrible state of the game.
You've definitely indicated empathy and generosity with these moves. It's kinda an irony of fate that you and damian, the most recently joined members, are forming the last defence line of our fleet right now - the last men standing.
I am fully convinced that you'll be doing a great job over there and with both of you being left, the pvp department is in safe hands apart from the horrible state of the game.
Hrmm, I haven't even tried to do anything PvP related in over a month...and...pretty sure Horizon left IC and is fleetless at the moment.
And another update on the PvP Queues window at 10:09 Eastern...
Well, a quickish update...everything but CnH is 0:00 with no participants listed...while CnH is 17:37 with 6 (min 16) sitting there.
Could be a reporting error, ahem, and there could be a mad group of thriving PvP taking place in both private and public channels...
...yeah, I don't think so.
PvP is dead, long live PvP...forum PvP.
edit: KDF side, everything is 0:00 (even CnH), with CnH showing 3/8...Arena 1/8...and Ground Assault 1/8.
Hrmm, I haven't even tried to do anything PvP related in over a month...and...pretty sure Horizon left IC and is fleetless at the moment.
And another update on the PvP Queues window at 10:09 Eastern...
Well, a quickish update...everything but CnH is 0:00 with no participants listed...while CnH is 17:37 with 6 (min 16) sitting there.
Could be a reporting error, ahem, and there could be a mad group of thriving PvP taking place in both private and public channels...
...yeah, I don't think so.
PvP is dead, long live PvP...forum PvP.
edit: KDF side, everything is 0:00 (even CnH), with CnH showing 3/8...Arena 1/8...and Ground Assault 1/8.
yea, It's reasonable that he exited since no-one is left with whom he could have carried on conversations much less played pvp. Human beings are usually inclined to feel more comfortable in groups/communities rather than acting as a lone wolf. Still, it's sad to hear these news. <.<
Ah well it is hardly necessary to do pvp-related stuff I guess, just your general presence over there is already more than sufficient .
So how about the activity of the pvp queues nowadays? Does the daily rate/percentage of queued players keep dropping in comparison to months ago or are there still some matches going on occasionally?
My fleet has been doing in fleet/alliance pvp recently having fun the only thing currently that bothers us about public pvp is surgical strikes i mean its just stupidly easy to use compared to the old vaper tactics.
My fleet has been doing in fleet/alliance pvp recently having fun the only thing currently that bothers us about public pvp is surgical strikes i mean its just stupidly easy to use compared to the old vaper tactics.
ionic turb is getting its fix soon aswell as viral torps those may come into balance(ish) but surgical strikes needs a balance pass.
so yea.
huh ? excuse me but if you die from that its your fault because you are a nOOb.Even Geko said it...you die because you suck at pvp not because the game is broken...so yea you are a nOOb who can't figure out the greatness of this game's pvp system.
The only way to not get burned down is stop being 100% focused on PvP. The current meta isn't good, but no one restricts us from doing privates under a set of rules. I stopped pursuing best-in-class ships and equipment long time ago. I happily bought a Fleet Sovereign and made it T5U, I'm loving it as I love the ship class itself from the films.
Watching the demise of the game, the mutation into something that can only be described as Imbeciles Online, really took its toll. I was trying to hang on to the game, but my passion and patience has run out of gas...
I need to refill. Dunno how long it'll take...
Get your ****ing TRIBBLE on! We're dying here without your wonderful voice!
surgical strike got a fix on the tribble notes, wont be able to fire it from cloak here pretty soon so thats a good thing
but lets face facts here, they are going to chip away at some of the broken stuff from t6 over the next couple months and even if they do all that the dino players are still not going to be happy because its not escorts online anymore and never will be again
the claim to fame in the past was:
most the boff powers sucked/didnt work good for pvp OR pve- so you had this knowledge divide between the vets and the rookies, those that knew already what worked great and pvp and flew it vs those noobs that were wasting time trying to make junk boff combos work and getting killed in the cues daily for it, (sure, sure, the noobs would bump into other noobs and see their "boff combo" result in a kill or two, but in the end, the game was so broken from the start that if you didnt do the cookie cutter escort/ heal boat/ off-heal sci and ran a team with it, short of 2-3 subnukes your team was unstoppable in the cues vs the pugs)
pay to win was never better- get a bug, that simple, learn to fly a bug, even easier, apply cookie cutter build and get on a team that knows how to cross heal= win vs all but other likewise teams (and then the match would drag on for hours LOL thats a big F for fun), teamfortress, recluses, adapted battle crabs, timeships, all those did were re-enforce the abuse of the heal mechanics in the game and take advantage of a superior escort with no peer, THIS went on by the way for years in this game
lets give a hand for pug stomping!- its funny how you can track the amount of pug stomping that was going on nightly with the enthusiasm of most of the dino players, they would get in a few matches a night, most of those matches was a walk in the park, they got to high five over how great they were nightly with the occasional 5v5 that was fleet-made/friend-made that actually were set up right, then they would have their long, dragged out, hard fought match walking away with a sense of pride that they felt like they did something and it was a good fight (reality is, if all you can do is wait for the cooldown of 2-3 subnukes to get a kill in the match, then really how the hell is that anything close to a balanced system of powers and abilities in the game, OR what? wait for the other team to slip up after 45 minutes strait, AGAIN, how is that strategy? YOU were never in control of the match if that was the primary ways of getting a kill, "general, we are going to keep pouring troops on the field until the enemy FINALLY screws up, and then hopefully sir, we then may be able to take the hill" BUT HEY! these guys got to push buttons, fly around for a bit, feel like their doing something- they got their wins nightly off the pug stomps so that I guess, is all that it took to keep their interest in the game, TO HELL with options, TO HELL with diversity, TO HELL with fresh players having the tools and the ability to create something that works, TO HELL with all of that, the dino players wanted a cookie cutter pvp experiense where they could build to 1 obvious build, one obvious team makeup, and take it into match after match after match without having to change a thing
FINAL PART : LOL, kids, these guys that cry and complain every flipping day have been doing it for a few years now, ask anyone of these guys: should a tac captain do good in a sci ship for damage? should a sci captain do good in an escort? should a cruiser be able to do good damage? should there be cloakers in 5v5 matches? BETTER yet, should an engineer captain be able to do good dps? all of these above they will say no, or give some "well, not as good as a tac captain in an escort" answer- fact is these guys want tons of ships in the game, but they also want their to be just 1 good ship for each class, 1 good build for each class, and that those builds CUT through everything else, tac in a scort, eng doing healing in a cruiser, sci worthless except for being an off healer in a sci ship- thats their dream for this game, thats what they want to go back to- they want noobs flying all the junk ships so that they have something to shoot at and ridicule nightly- and when cryptic started to drift away from that junk balance in the game, when these dino players started getting poped in the cues left and right- they spazzed out and most quit the game (can you blame them? its like your a knight, you fight in armor with a sword, and then I come along with a gun and shoot you, cause its not the dark ages anymore, its modern warfare, and the knight, all hes ever known is how to fight with the sword, he cant adapt, all he can do is complain, AGAIN I really dont fault them for it, we are all products of our own eras, but in the same stroke theirs the powers balance issue, and if anyone tells ya it was more balanced in the past, YA it was balanced for escorts, and escorts alone)
balancing this game for escorts alone was in the end what killed pvp for this game years ago, I know plenty of die hard pvpers that walked away that spent good money in this game getting ships, learning about powers, and in the end walked away cause they saw the only thing that mattered for damage in pvp was a bug ship, and that all the other powers were junk, and the only way to run a solid team is do off healers and healers for the bug ships, AND god save you if you dont have at least 2 sci captains in their somewhere cause then it doesnt even matter, you will never get a kill LOL
couple came back, asked me what changed, I would tell them, "well now you can go into a cruiser and do damage, OR now you can make a romulan and cloak" but by the time they stated fixing the sci powers (and they still havent fixed all of them, let alone anything damage wise out of eng) I havent seen these guys back sinse, and can you blame them? how many years can you expect players to wait around until you get your act together with a powers tweak/balance pass? LOL
anyways, the games going full steam t6 and not looking back, and the rate they are bug fixing it will be the rapture before everything is sorted out correctly- BUT to try and paint a rosie picture that old seasons prior were WAY better is delusional, it only ment that once you knew what you were doing you did alot of no dying nightly and pug stomping sprinkled with some high-end fights that illustrated how worthless half the powers in the game really are
what was so great about the past was that your friends still played, that you still had excitement for the game, that everything still felt a little bit new and rough
its the same in any other mmo, these things are not built to be played for decades LOL, their designed to grab your attention for a year, maybe 2 tops, anyone that stays in beyond that will ALWAYS turn slowly into a jaded, angry, gamer- cause you want those old feelings back and theres NOTHING on this earth that can make them come back, so at least you can vent all the time to feel better:)
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That's another reason why I've distanced myself from this pathetic game: Besides the intense grinding, there are only a bunch of ingrateful cry babies left who are only capable of carrying out destructive instead of constructive critizism. In fact, they weren't even willing to support pvp-events in order to maintain activity in STO PvP. It's totally counterproductive and everything left from an once glorius community which I knew, too bad all of them are gone forever...
-=Hannibal - Inner Circle PvP-Department=-
Hannibal's YouTube PvP-channel (under construction)
More Inner Circle PvP-Action worth watching from: Hank, Mira Theng and Zimbilimbim
it had so much potential, ant is WAS so good. but of course, anyone who would voluntarily make and run something as toxic as an mmo, couldn't be trusted not to utterly ruin it with absurd grind and pay walls.
....few seconds to elaborate.
Ok. I agree on the fact that most of the epic community we were part quitted after DR. Their legacy was picked up by random kids who, by using stuff that now is getting hit with nerf hammer, felt entitled to call themselves "PvPers". I couldn't get one of these yesterday to PvP 1v1 me Contortrix vs Tempest because he couldn't get off its (note: I'm not using him or her willingly) Manasa.
The stroking reply was "if I unload viral and intel it is just a contortrix"... if we don't count sci ship shields, way more maneuverable, the added boff slot. Latter was he just got facecritted by a 70k Nadion Bomb. Just one of the few examples of how they're good for nothing when they face reality.
Another example, a Surgical/Ionic spamming Faeht trying to countlessly (failed) vaping my Tempest. After being repeatedly smashed by a well placed Beam Overload he started moaning of how his character was still new, things like that. Just another wannabe PvPer.
Let's say it. Ionic, Viral, Neutronic, Armor Penetration, Surgical were the things that made many of the legendary PvPers leave. Ionic is going to be bare useless now, Viral we shall see but the double tap fix is good, Neutronic less powerful than my biomolecular now, Armor Penetration that was killing through shields. Surgical is the only one left. I think that if it gets addressed as well, many will return. And if they do, well I'll enjoy the newcomers, cheese-powered idiots being kicked left and right to their PvE reign.
Let's not act like PvP was all about constructive criticism before as opposed to today. we all had our circles where things were dandy, but in clash of fleets, teams, pugs it was always like your exchange with beammedown, let's not kid ourselves.
Only difference: rage could be settle in the battlefield.
Upcoming major fixes(now on tribble) will maybe bring some of community back.
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oh well, they aren't getting my money anymore... and that hurts them more than anything I could ever say on these forums..... doesn't it, cryptic??
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Nah, those Delta Rising signature artwork doohickeys really hurt. 17x as much as somebody not buying a new ship.
One thing I have noticed is that a high percentage of pvp threads are being closed now (while looking back to see what I have missed). They aren't even bothering to give a reason anymore and it has become second nature at this point.
We should have a contest to see how many threads can be closed in one day, just to keep the mods busy LOL
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I was kind of surprised to see Hank and Hannibal posting in this thread yesterday...made me go check the last time some of the folks had logged into the game. End of December, early January, and I think some toons were there third week. Shim, Snog, David, Hank, Hannibal...poof. Horizon's the only guy I ever see log on from time to time anymore...still off killing bad guys, heh.
I'm not really surprised to be honest though, I just cracked open the PVP Queues window (Fed).
0:00 Ground Arena 0 (min 10)
7:53 Ground Assault 5 (min 8)
0:00 Space Capture and Hold 3 (min 8)
0:00 Space Arena 4 (min 8)
0:00 Arena (Solo or Duo Queue) 4 (min 10)
0:00 Smallcraft Arena 0 (min 10)
And I think that's the best I've seen in it forever...course, I can't remember the last time I even tried to queue. Hell, I can't even remember the last time I went to Ker'rat. Was probably early Jan? Meh...
I couldn't imagine trying to do PvP with the UI stuff that's going on.
As far as trying to keep the mods busy, heh, I'm at that point in my posting career where I'm trying to stay off their radar for a bit.
If they ever make PvP like before LOR, I will be back, but all the TRIBBLE in this game now is just too much to keep track of....so many consoles, traits, powers, skills, etc.... every time I turned around, the game was completely different... a ship that was great one week, sucked the next week after they patched or released a new season... I got tired of trying to keep up.
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Watching the demise of the game, the mutation into something that can only be described as Imbeciles Online, really took its toll. I was trying to hang on to the game, but my passion and patience has run out of gas...
I need to refill. Dunno how long it'll take...
they ran out of ships and now they sell consoles and traits.Wait till they start selling boff manuals with unique powers....if you think the game is broken now wait till next lockbox @ season 10.
kill per kill the US defence budget is lower than what pve heroes pay to kill borgs.Basically pve players pay more to kill npcs than US pays to kill terrorists or whatever they kill.
yo virus
nice to see/read you after a while, yea it's unfortunate how things are running, these days. I'll probably reinstall the game to say hello if there's someone left to have a little talk after all
Btw, I've been missing your epic sigs. :P
hank, let's hope that you haven't run out of gas visiting teamspeak every once in a while lol. But it's cool that you show a sign of life at least.
-=Hannibal - Inner Circle PvP-Department=-
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With the way things are going with this game though, honestly, I can't see playing it any differently than the girlfriend plays her Farmerama game. I've even started calling DOFF assignments crops...got to plant my crops, got to harvest my crops...then off to watch Netflix or whatever.
You've definitely indicated empathy and generosity with these moves.
I am fully convinced that you'll be doing a great job over there and with both of you being left, the pvp department is in safe hands apart from the horrible state of the game.
-=Hannibal - Inner Circle PvP-Department=-
Hannibal's YouTube PvP-channel (under construction)
More Inner Circle PvP-Action worth watching from: Hank, Mira Theng and Zimbilimbim
Hrmm, I haven't even tried to do anything PvP related in over a month...and...pretty sure Horizon left IC and is fleetless at the moment.
And another update on the PvP Queues window at 10:09 Eastern...
Well, a quickish update...everything but CnH is 0:00 with no participants listed...while CnH is 17:37 with 6 (min 16) sitting there.
Could be a reporting error, ahem, and there could be a mad group of thriving PvP taking place in both private and public channels...
...yeah, I don't think so.
PvP is dead, long live PvP...forum PvP.
edit: KDF side, everything is 0:00 (even CnH), with CnH showing 3/8...Arena 1/8...and Ground Assault 1/8.
yea, It's reasonable that he exited since no-one is left with whom he could have carried on conversations much less played pvp. Human beings are usually inclined to feel more comfortable in groups/communities rather than acting as a lone wolf. Still, it's sad to hear these news. <.<
Ah well it is hardly necessary to do pvp-related stuff I guess, just your general presence over there is already more than sufficient
So how about the activity of the pvp queues nowadays? Does the daily rate/percentage of queued players keep dropping in comparison to months ago or are there still some matches going on occasionally?
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More Inner Circle PvP-Action worth watching from: Hank, Mira Theng and Zimbilimbim
see if i can get the gang back together for one last IC vs SP match
i'll skype hank :P:P:P:P
i mean look at these numbers http://i.imgur.com/jWWSDpj.png
ionic turb is getting its fix soon aswell as viral torps those may come into balance(ish) but surgical strikes needs a balance pass.
so yea.
I think we have a gas station in our TS, as you can also refuel.
We miss you there.
STO PvP right now ? Worf would say this..
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regarts
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huh ? excuse me but if you die from that its your fault because you are a nOOb.Even Geko said it...you die because you suck at pvp not because the game is broken...so yea you are a nOOb who can't figure out the greatness of this game's pvp system.
teehee
After all, when did this become sexier than this?
Form > function
Yeah, get his TRIBBLE on again.
That would be fun as hell.
Get your ****ing TRIBBLE on! We're dying here without your wonderful voice!
Glad to see that some things haven't changed.
hiho bieber glad to hear from you again
dude, I'd be so down for that! It's a great idea and probably the only motivation to rejoin STO temporarily for this occasion
Count me in, if it's gonna happen:)
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Hannibal's YouTube PvP-channel (under construction)
More Inner Circle PvP-Action worth watching from: Hank, Mira Theng and Zimbilimbim
Do we have enough Pandas for it?
I'll join!
:P
Nice banner btw hannie
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