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Reaching Tier 5 of Delta Rising Rep-System.
coolheadal
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On the New Years day I should be at Tier 5 on Fed then following him ROM and KDF. I was wondering how many are at Tier 5 and have completed the 100,000 point quest?
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Time will only tell!
Time will only tell!
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I don't even know what gear you can get from Delta. The wiki hasn't been updated with that info yet :P
It's not? Huh, that's odd. I'll see if I can update the info once the server goes back up.
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32k is stil better than the 8k my last two characters got for hitting t5 omega.
I refused, they can bite me.
Different Reps have different rewards.
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Reputation_System/Rewards
Like much of the DR stuff, that hasn't been updated to reflect DR stuff.
To me, that's been the most telling thing...stuff always used to go up fast, even if it was just red links. DR...yeah...no.
I know. Just saying' why complain about 32k when it could have been much less.
Or as monty python liked to point out "worse things happen at sea you know". ^.^
I believe that Counter-Command dis not give out the Isomorphic Injections at T5 either but you would hardly notice because they dropped like 4 for successful completion of killing all three Planet Killers (3) and defeat of the Voth Fleet in the aftermath.
For Delta it is behind the possible failure on not making the Optionals from Advanced Queues. You can get some from the Daily or Hourly Rep projects but not nearly enough to buy sets. You need to do the Queues on Advanced or Elite to get them.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
On my run up through T5 for Delta rep I got one whole power cell from the daily boxes.
I thought it was less because of 10 BNP's.
On delta just do bug hunt, it never fails.
is bug hunt the best way to get goodies for delta? i have marks for all of these out the wazoo (especially dyson). i WISH there was an option to pay more marks/BNP's/Cybernetic implants/ancient power cells/etc--instead of paying dilithium. main toon has ~300k unrefined...a large chunk of it from completing all the t5 rep--and i can't get enough to spend.
meanwhile, i have 200 voth cybernetic implants and 3000 dyson marks. and that's just 1 rep.
Word is that they should be putting power cells into the kobail adventure zone, this will be a very good decision for new players/alts.
More dil for me to spend.
I must admit it's been a while since I finally decided to bother completing Omega when they brought all the Reps in-line with each other... but some of the info about the lack of 32k Dilithium and 750 Marks that you are given for Tier 5 completion occurs on ALL Reputations.
What I can't recall though is if any Secondary or Sponsored reduce it to 500 Mark and 8k Dilithium, but to be honest it doesn't matter if it does; as a Daily Run of Dyson is 4,750 Dilithium (direct) then 3-5 Implants (1,000 Dilithium Each) and then 350 - 650 Marks (500 Dilithium per 50) meaning generally you can melt down a total of like 15k Dilithium per Day; which takes about an hour, then you can also take another 45-60min to do the 8472 Space that provides a further 9k when also melted down.
Frankly earning Dilithium isn't as big an issue as actually being able to use it, as that 8k per day Ore > Refined is a pain in the rear. Heck as a Veteran suppose to be able to due a Duty Officer task for another 1,000 per day; but the damn thing is ONLY available at Starfleet Academy and is a 48hr assignment; so it only works out to an extra 500 per day while taking up a DOFF slot.
Barely worth the hassle to be honest.
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When it comes to Delta Rep though, I should hit T5 Friday; not that I care much.
It isn't because the Gear is bad... actually pretty great stats wise, but the fact is that earning any sense of reasonable Delta Marks like Levelling is basically held for ransom behind either tedious grind in the 'Official' areas or grinding out the STFs that offer 'Choice of Marks' (primarily the new ones), which are frankly an unentertaining prospect to me.
Was bad enough having to grind them out for Omega/MACO Gear, and prior to Dyson where they were the only real means of gaining Dilithium at a reasonable speed.
Still as the Elites have basically been damage sponge expanded, the inclusion of the broken Advanced, and Normal still giving absolutely nothing ... not to mention the fact they're still boring as all hell to run, it'll likely be a while before I actually have any of the Gear; as the earning pace on Kobali or the Patrols (outside of the +50 Daily Bonus) is so damn slow that continents move quicker.
Don't get me wrong here, technically Dyson Ground / Space can also be a grind; but they're actually to some degree entertaining with a reasonable pay-out for those who prefer to play casually like myself. Compared to the other Adventure Zones that are dull as watching paint dry, with their pathetic pay-out pace; well makes you wonder why bother regardless how good the sets are.
If Cryptic actually want me to play a certain aspect of the game, they should make the damn thing fun to actually be involved with. How they can go from the Dyson stuff (which was a step I the right direction, not exactly perfect but a good move forward) to Delta which felt like 20 paces backways like Nukura is beyond me.
Ground equipment (shield-weapon-armor-3xkit variants): 250 marks, 5000 dill each, 50k EC, Tiers 1, 2, 4, 5
Universal Kit module: 125 marks, 2500 dill, 25k EC, Tier 3
Space weapon set (projectile-console-weapon): 500 marks 10k dill each, 100k EC, Tiers 1, 3, 5
Space equipment set (Deflector-Impulse-core-3xshield variants): 750 marks, 15k dill, 150k EC, Tiers 2, 3, 4, 5
Elite hangar pet: 500 marks 10k dill 50x3 R&D mats (different mats) 10 doffs (not consumed) 100k EC tier 5
Tier 5 reward: 1 Boff (choose career) 25k dill 250k EC 1000 marks
Daily reward: 60 marks
Hourly project: 15 marks, Rewards 250 reputation
Daily project: 30 marks, Rewards 2500 reputation
Tier 1: 3000 rep
Tier 2: 9000 rep
Tier 3: 30000 rep
Tier 4: 60000 rep
Tier 5: 90000 rep
Removed: ancient power cells, borg cortical whateveriscalled, isomorphic injections, voth implants
How will you force players into borked queues to pad your metrics without APCs?
Liberate them from the bork?
:P
With better rewards, some queues have an stupidly low amount of mark reward, I got 16 marks by successfully completing atmospheric assault.
22 by completing the breach (best PvE queue ever, it's like taking on the death star, you get inside the voth fortress then destroy the core then scape before exploding, it's ****ing awesome) with all optional objectives.
They gave me 50 marks for completing borg disconnected with all optionals (including killing the 3 dreadnoughts within one minute of the first), no single borg killing torpedo landed, all borg ships saved (56), nobody died (except the enemy) and all I got was 50 marks (and a lot of accolades).
Extra marks, xp and dill based on average completion time compared to the fastests STF queue.
Been there for a month or two now.
Yeah, this is my question too. We got:
-Dyson (S8):
Fun ground battlezone, and TWO space adventure zones that are actually interesting to poke around at once in a while, plus a great set and a reasonable grind pace. Oh, and The Breach. Awesome mission. Also, while there were far too few missions for the Dyson arc, every single one was very well-made and exciting to run, even the second time. Overall, it and its subsequent .5 update seemed to compose an entire new expansion, albeit a small one.
-8472 (S9):
Neat space battlezone, kind of like Dyson ground but with a Voth fluffball stage at the end. Messing with the fluffball using Gravity Well is fun. Neat Undine ship revamp, albeit with annoying bioplasma bubbles that are kind of stupid. And, the reuse of Bajor for an Undine infiltration-related mission was a really good reuse of a relatively-useless map. If my memory serves me, we got the much-needed trait balance here, too, and some key new systems for (good) monetization. Oh, and the new ESD. How could I forget that? Over all, a good season.
...Then, we get to Expansion 2. Dilithium Rising? Delta Grinding? Maybe Hell's a-Rising? Oh, yeah, right... "Delta Rising."
I just stoppend minding the rep-system much after its revamp.
Once again I have to ask why Cryptic cares how much unrefined Dilithium we have, when we can only refine a certain amount per day? There's no logic behind it.
Free Tibet!
The problem is the scarcity of Ancient Power Cells, whose only regular source is yet another "there are aliens, go kill them" grind zone. These things are boring. And I've got plenty of good gear already, so I don't feel any great urgency about going off to be bored, just to get some more.
I'm a morbid completist, so I'll probably get round to it eventually. But, then, I said that about the Undine gear... the space set projects are queued up in my rep screen, have been for months... probably will be for a few months more. Because getting the marks means, mostly, Undine battlezone, and it's a go-there-and-kill-everything grindfest, and those are boring.
I sometimes wonder how many actual players are in these zones, as opposed to professional gold farmers from The Sites Which Must Not Be Named. Because these grindfests seem ideal for them.
Completing the rep is easy, especially if you're doing any of the patrols. The daily bonus is what always gives me the most of my marks. I've done it on three character so far, the three I have been constantly playing since Delta Rising.
The bigger challenge is getting the gear.
The only way to get the Ancient Power Cells are Advanced or Elite Queues, and my runs have just not been succesful. I guess I could do more Bug Hunt Advanced.
I am afraid the new difficulty levels combined with completely new missions were too much - at least at first. People don't really know yet what they have to do to beat the missions, and often their builds or gear is insufficient.
Omega, Dyson and Undine are the only others that required "Special Marks" like the Ancient Power Cells, and Dyson and Undine have their wonderful Battle Zones, and Omega always had Infected Elite (now Advanced) going for it, that was easy to and fast to complete and very puggable (at least after 1-2 years in its current state and all the power creep since then.)
Maybe Disconnected and the like will also be in that state in 2 years. But meanwhile, a good and fun "Power Cell" grind source seems unavailable.
I will finish BHA on my current toon, since this is my lead toon that has all the other Reps completed and then I get the double reward for the others (if I think about doing this again), but DR and the other Reps have all lost their luster after the changes and nerfs... which is counter-productive for any hope of getting players to rejoin the end-game content.... :rolleyes: