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mainmarine20
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Given the changes that have happened post-DR and even before, how much time can STO affectedly sustain a playbase that keep it afloat financial wise before no one is playing the game buying things to keep the game from going bankrupt like many other MMOs?
NOTE: Please keep it CLEAN and respectful. I am trying to get feedback from people who have invested heavily into the game and would like to know from them where they think the game is heading in the future. This is NOT a dig at Cryptic/Perfect World. I am not directing this at any specific party.
UPDATE1: Yes I know some of you think this is a DOOM thread but it isn't. We all know the game will end eventually. The point of this is to get feedback from people as to how long they think the game has left before the game does shutdown given the state of the game currently.
NOTE: Please keep it CLEAN and respectful. I am trying to get feedback from people who have invested heavily into the game and would like to know from them where they think the game is heading in the future. This is NOT a dig at Cryptic/Perfect World. I am not directing this at any specific party.
UPDATE1: Yes I know some of you think this is a DOOM thread but it isn't. We all know the game will end eventually. The point of this is to get feedback from people as to how long they think the game has left before the game does shutdown given the state of the game currently.
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I will respectfully disagree with you. Doom threads are not a thing. STO will no longer exist in the future and I am trying to get an idea on how long it will be before it happens.
Thanks for your comment.
I'll make the prediction that STO won't survive to the 3rd JJ Trek movie premeire.
"You shoot him, I shoot you, I leave both your bodies here and go out for a late night snack.
I'm thinking maybe pancakes." ~ John Casey
I'd agree with this. 18 months to 2 years. That lengthens and gets more profitable for Cryptic for every positive thing that happens. It shortens and gets less profitable for every huge negative. But where things are at now? Plenty of room to repair things. But not indefinitely sustainable either.
Now if the question were, "How long until everyone with a sarcastic forum sig quits?" without relaxing the design philosophy.
I'd say about six months.
And I'd wager the people who are happy or indifferent are more likely to be people who don't spend money. Or, if they do, they have far above average incomes and so they don't feel the pinch as hard.
I think, generally, the heart of negativity is a demo that spends a bigger percentage of their annual income on the game than people who are less negative.
lol
Well nothing new here, I'll check back in a week or 2
Funny that you should mention this...
I've been playing Marvel Heroes for the past 2 days. I've also redownloaded EVE online and started another trial account just so i can play around in the starter area for 2 weeks. And i saw on yahoo.com that EA has released Simcity 2000 for free on Origin. So i downloaded that too and will be playing it over the next few days.
I think i've pretty much said TRIBBLE it you can keep the Breen Carrier, Breen Warship and Breen Raiders and that was only after 5 days of doing WW stuff. Not really feeling the urge to log onto STO to play right now, or even log on to refine my dil. I mean wtf am i gonna spend it on? upgrade gear that isnt really isnt even needed to do instances i'm sick and tired of running or to do a new ground BZ that i dont like because the old ground BZ is better?
Sounds like me.
SWTOR just released Shadow of Revan. New content to take my characters through.
DCUO just launched the Holiday Event, with a whole new set of hideout decorations for Christmas, based on Blue Lanterns.
I stop by here just to check the forums, mostly when eating dinner. Otherwise, I have plenty to do elsewhere that is more entertaining.
Really, I only play STO when I simply can't resist the urge for some space combat.
"You shoot him, I shoot you, I leave both your bodies here and go out for a late night snack.
I'm thinking maybe pancakes." ~ John Casey
I agree with this, but that's going with the assumption that nothing gets worse. And honestly, given the direction over the past two years, I think that at best they'll stagnate at where they are now (in terms of decisions made about the game), and at worst they will shoot themselves in the foot.
Perhaps we should create an unofficial "doom clock" for the game. Right now I'd put at 18 months to midnight.
How long until the game is taken offline? Well, you'd have to look at how long PWE traditionally gives games to become profitable once again before pulling the plug.
Odan Brota (Science Officer): Captain of a 28k DPS Scryer Intel Science Vessel, U.S.S. Kepler
Patiently waiting for a Romulan Science Vessel
Sighs, there's another mod like that? Oh well...the forums will get worse now. I'd always understood PWE/Cryptic allowed that single thread to continue to stop an overflow of threads.
Sometimes decisions are made without proper understanding.
We simply do not know that.
Remember, every upgraded ship costs 10 x t6 c-store ships. That can make uo for a lot...
And if we assume the formula is working - that people are indeed willing to mine patrols for 4 months, well then it's as simple as release a new set of passives (no animations, no work just copy-paste some numbers) and tie them to some new patrols.
In that case you don't need queues, you don't need other people and even if you don't have the imagination for it yet, we also won't need the reputation system.
Oooh! OOOOH! Please do and make it possible to use for signatures.
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There's several things STO has against it:
They might extend it a bit by releasing a Cardassian faction (we might even see a Borg Cooperative faction if things get desperate) but that's going to be about it for big expansions.
I see this going the way of the dodo as soon as the license expires, assuming it's not a perpetual (haha, get it??) license. If that's 2018, there's your answer.
In the Star Trek games market there's pretty much no competition.
In the regular space combat game market, most newer space combat games are not nearly as casual friendly and most appear to play more like space fighter pilot games than space ship games.
All in all, until Cryptic and STO get more competition in these areas, STO will continue to earn enough money to get by. As such, they will continue to ignore players concerns and take the game in ludicrous directions. So... about 4 more years I would say. If they make it to 2020, I'll be extremely surprised.
*The bolded text is the reason I can't find a game to replace STO. If I wanted to play a fighter pilot game, I would play a more realistic modern one not a futuristic space one.
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
Correction---JJA is no longer involved with that franchise.
1) Shovel out new content as quick as you can (and shovel out events in between). At the moment, cryptic aren't going fast enough to maintain this. We should be seeing new episodes just after Xmas, but I think it will be March before we see new content and there's not enough events to keep people interested after QWW.
2) Make PvP a larger part of the game.
The last game I played was sort of similar to the way STO is now at end game; repetitive grind to upgrade gear or gain new skills. The only way it made the grind less boring was the PvP element. Balanced PvP queues with team strategy and decent reward. Balanced, in so far as they used (or i believe they did) a gear scoring system so it was unlikely (but not impossible) to be put up against overpowered competitors. Strategy, in so far as it's not simply a grand slam kill everything match, not relying on pure DPS to win and then decent rewards (it doesn't have to be dili).
With this system, they made a very dynamic PvP element to the game. Yes, of course you'd go to one match and be facepalming all the time, but a lot of the time you could have decent fun without having to out-dps someone. Healers, tanks and CC could mean something here.
I know I'd like to see something like this. All I do at the moment is log on, do reps, do doffs and then do a couple of PuGs (BD and CCA) to get the marks I need. It usually takes less than an hour. If there was something dynamic, like decent PvP queues, it might keep me on for longer and in return, I'd do more PvE pugs too (while I wait on cd).
Cheers!
What a leech....ugh
Seems like a Doom thread to me, masked in this question, the question you ask is nonsense because no one knows when the game will shut down...no one except the devs if the game has plans to shut down soon...which I don't imagine that is the case.
He's a talentless hack....I feel sorry for those fans of another space franchise...it's their turn to have their beloved franchise debased.
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