Yeah, whenever I see someone trying to "Oh, we're too serious for that!" Star Trek, I think about all those wacko costumes that Theiss did in the original series. :rolleyes:
And the amount of wardrobe malfunctions that those costumes entailed.
A day on the TOS set was closer to a visit to a gentlemens club than to a business meeting. Unless you hire a stripper for your business meetings.
My guess is "hope" keeps people not playing but posting on the forums. For others, its a path of sad realization and closure. Grieving takes time. The worst "haters" here love the game, or did at some point.
The simple truth:
Some people like to mind everyone else's business and tell them how they should (and how they should not) dress, how they should (and should not) play the game, how they should (and should not) think, what belief system they should (and should not) affirm, etc. Their usual excuse is "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" but this is a red herring and we all know it.
Erm, i dont think anyone is being forced into what they can or cant wear off duty. What they are saying is..
a. it isn't appropriate to wear certain things in certain areas.
or
b. its only appropriate to wear certain thing in certain areas.
Kinda like life in general. By todays standards, you dont generally wear clubbing gear or bikinis to the office, even on mufty days, smart casual as a rule. You certainly wouldnt wear clubbing gear or bikinis to head office. So I fail to see the need for your 'soap box and megaphone' I see no excuses, forceful directives or agendas being made, it is just a basic, sensible dress code, that sits comfortably within the IP.
Why is wearing bikinis everywhere such a big deal? I mean I can't really see a logical explanation other than so people can get their rocks off somewhere besides Risa.
I've challenged many times including in this thread and no one has shown me the evidence I've been looking for...yet jackets are common place.
Why? It's a matter of personal choice, that's why.
Erm, i dont think anyone is being forced into what they can or cant wear off duty. What they are saying is..
a. it isn't appropriate to wear certain things in certain areas.
or
b. its only appropriate to wear certain thing in certain areas.
Kinda like life in general. By todays standards, you dont generally wear clubbing gear or bikinis to the office, even on mufty days, smart casual as a rule. You certainly wouldnt wear clubbing gear or bikinis to head office. So I fail to see the need for your 'soap box and megaphone' I see no excuses, forceful directives or agendas being made, it is just a basic, sensible dress code, that sits comfortably within the IP.
A. Who determines that it's not "appropriate"? (Hint: The answer is not "Cryptic" or "PWE" or even "CBS," because you are the one making this assertion about what is and is not "appropriate.") On what basis do they come to this determination? What are the implications if they go the other way and embrace more freedom of choice? Moralists need to learn one simple fact: If you don't like it, then you don't have to do it, but you have no right to prohibit others from doing it.
B. I believe that many would be satisfied if the swimwear were simply available in some places off Risa, as has been requested several times. A player's ship interior, Club 47 (and the bar in Starfleet Academy, if we want to be consistent), the bar in First City, the balcony at New Romulus Command, Drozana Station, and Fleet Holdings are hardly "inappropriate" areas for this sort of attire. Granted, restricting to Club 47 (and the bar in Starfleet Academy), the bar in First City, and the balcony at New Romulus Command might be more work than the Devs want to do, so a compromise is possible there: all of ESD (and Starfleet Academy), all of First City, and all of New Romulus Command. And while we're on the subject, why can Clubwear be used on ESD and First City, but not in New Romulus Command? Oh, right, we Romulans, famed (or notorious, depending on who you ask) for ROMULAN ALE, don't get a bar or club (except on our warbirds) for some unfathomable reason.
You see plenty of people in bikinis and club clothes outside of designated zones. All you have to do is be a secret keeper within those fleets and you too can glitch uniforms that allow you to have a talaxian with trill spots and a tail, with no head.
Yeah, no. There's nobody "glitching" uniforms or the like to enable this. If you made your swimwear costume before a certain date, and have not edited the costume since that date, then you can wear it off Risa. Simple and doesn't require anyone to do anything, only to have done something before a certain date and to not do something after that date.
protogoth, you may not like it, but that's not how society works.
shpoks, what is the antecedent of "that" in your assertion? And, prithee, tell me then, good sir, how doth society work? Someone decides for everyone else on harmless matters of choice? :rolleyes:
Oh, well, at any rate, how things are is not always the same as how things ought to be.
Some people stand up against the powers that be, challenging the status quo by demanding action against perceived police brutality against minorities; others camp out on the streets of Hong Kong protesting for universal suffrage; still others campaign on a smaller scale, championing womens' equality, an end to institutionalized racism, and the fragility of the planet we all share. My money, however, is on those brave few, those heroes of heroes, that demand the right to wear pixelated bikinis and swimwear wherever they want on a Star Trek online video game.
*Logs onto STO, right hand resting on Che Guevara mousepad, Rage Against the Machine's "Take the Power Back" blasting through Dre (Straight Outta Compton, y'all) Beatz headphones.*
[Zone] Nbreeki@nabreeki: Fists in the air, y'all! More clothing options in ESD, in Qonos, in the Middle East, in the WW! If u don't stand for something, U fall for anything.
[Zone] Pubbie@randomname: Ignored, idiot.
Every time your character uses the shirtless option from Risa, a Smurf dies.
Some people stand up against the powers that be, challenging the status quo by demanding action against perceived police brutality against minorities; others camp out on the streets of Hong Kong protesting for universal suffrage; still others campaign on a smaller scale, championing womens' equality, an end to institutionalized racism, and the fragility of the planet we all share. My money, however, is on those brave few, those heroes of heroes, that demand the right to wear pixelated bikinis and swimwear wherever they want on a Star Trek online video game.
*Logs onto STO, right hand resting on Che Guevara mousepad, Rage Against the Machine's "Take the Power Back" blasting through Dre (Straight Outta Compton, y'all) Beatz headphones.*
[Zone] Nbreeki@nabreeki: Fists in the air, y'all! More clothing options in ESD, in Qonos, in the Middle East, in the WW! If u don't stand for something, U fall for anything.
[Zone] Pubbie@randomname: Ignored, idiot.
LMAO!!! :P:D I just sprayed my coffee all over my monitor. I'll be sending you the bill if it doesn't work tomorrow, nabreeki.
Some people stand up against the powers that be, challenging the status quo by demanding action against perceived police brutality against minorities; others camp out on the streets of Hong Kong protesting for universal suffrage; still others campaign on a smaller scale, championing womens' equality, an end to institutionalized racism, and the fragility of the planet we all share. My money, however, is on those brave few, those heroes of heroes, that demand the right to wear pixelated bikinis and swimwear wherever they want on a Star Trek online video game.
*Logs onto STO, right hand resting on Che Guevara mousepad, Rage Against the Machine's "Take the Power Back" blasting through Dre (Straight Outta Compton, y'all) Beatz headphones.*
[Zone] Nbreeki@nabreeki: Fists in the air, y'all! More clothing options in ESD, in Qonos, in the Middle East, in the WW! If u don't stand for something, U fall for anything.
[Zone] Pubbie@randomname: Ignored, idiot.
Oh, right, because we can't possibly be advocating for anything serious in the offline world if we're advocating for something in a game. Does the phrase "False Dilemma" mean anything to you?
The developers made the call on these special costume items. It's their sandbox we're playing in, so they lay the ground rules. If we don't like the ground rules, we can give feedback. And MAYBE they will change a given ground rule at some point. But that is their call.
So far, I haven't seen any indication that they are going to change it.
So, instead of playing the SJW card, we just have to go with the flow. That's how it is.
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Are people allowed to wear their sting bikinis to McDonalds or the grocery store in RL? Not that I know of. Maybe if it was beach front locations in a tropical region, but I doubt that it would be allowed anywhere else.
Are people allowed to wear their sting bikinis to McDonalds or the grocery store in RL? Not that I know of. Maybe if it was beach front locations in a tropical region, but I doubt that it would be allowed anywhere else.
You obviously never lived near a trailer park. Or went into the average Walmart on a hot summer day. And let me tell you, there are people I would not object to wearing a string bikini - and none of them shop at Walmart.
My guess is "hope" keeps people not playing but posting on the forums. For others, its a path of sad realization and closure. Grieving takes time. The worst "haters" here love the game, or did at some point.
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To me, skimpy outfits just don't say "combat-ready." It makes sense to me that these are not acceptable clothing in on-duty situations. And yes, I know Orion NPC's go into combat dressed that way but I find it laughable and immersion-breaking as this illustrates: http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1365/28/1365283018100.jpg
Personal shields do mitigate the risk some, but you are still left open to other attacks that bypass or are not completely stopped by shields. And when you think about it adequate clothing and armor would offer much better protection than what actually happens in-game.
I think it would mitigate some of the "clothing in inappropriate venues" issues if wearing swimwear caused your armor to unslot and it wouldn't be slottable again until you changed into something more combat-appropriate. :evil grin:
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You obviously never lived near a trailer park. Or went into the average Walmart on a hot summer day. And let me tell you, there are people I would not object to wearing a string bikini - and none of them shop at Walmart.
i used to live in a trailer park for a good portion of my childhood...and i never saw anyone walking around it in string bikinis
or anything that could be classed as swimwear, for that matter - closest i ever saw was a tank-top
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
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I've lived all over the Midwest and for a while on the East Coast, and a lot of trips to both of the "tropical-esque" locations, Florida and California. I've seen more inappropriate attire worn in public in the colder climes than I ever saw on a beach in Cali. It's actually kind of weird know that I think about it....
Actually, this should give you an idea of what's out there....
My guess is "hope" keeps people not playing but posting on the forums. For others, its a path of sad realization and closure. Grieving takes time. The worst "haters" here love the game, or did at some point.
To me, skimpy outfits just don't say "combat-ready." It makes sense to me that these are not acceptable clothing in on-duty situations. And yes, I know Orion NPC's go into combat dressed that way but I find it laughable and immersion-breaking as this illustrates: http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1365/28/1365283018100.jpg
Personal shields do mitigate the risk some, but you are still left open to other attacks that bypass or are not completely stopped by shields. And when you think about it adequate clothing and armor would offer much better protection than what actually happens in-game.
I think it would mitigate some of the "clothing in inappropriate venues" issues if wearing swimwear caused your armor to unslot and it wouldn't be slottable again until you changed into something more combat-appropriate. :evil grin:
The image you seek to use to illustrate your point is flawed by virtue of being based on Fantasy genre. In that genre, Magic and Illusion are a given. What may appear to be a 'chain mail bikini" may in fact be full plate with a glamour on it to make it appear to be something "flimsy." I give you a "Fail" for that appeal to a flawed "illustration."
The image you seek to use to illustrate your point is flawed by virtue of being based on Fantasy genre. In that genre, Magic and Illusion are a given. What may appear to be a 'chain mail bikini" may in fact be full plate with a glamour on it to make it appear to be something "flimsy." I give you a "Fail" for that appeal to a flawed "illustration."
Meh, maybe all the clothes in STO are holographically projected a la Picard and Lily in the holodeck in First Contact. We know for a fact they didn't have time to change, but all of the sudden she's wearing a dress with cleavage...
My guess is "hope" keeps people not playing but posting on the forums. For others, its a path of sad realization and closure. Grieving takes time. The worst "haters" here love the game, or did at some point.
Meh, maybe all the clothes in STO are holographically projected a la Picard and Lily in the holodeck in First Contact. We know for a fact they didn't have time to change, but all of the sudden she's wearing a dress with cleavage...
Thank you for taking my previous post to its implications for STO.
One of those Bridge Bunnies hefts her bat'leth to take the head off a Federation redshirt and at the penultimate moment, both the vertabrae of the Human and the neck strap of her, ahem, "armor" part with no chance of repair.
Now that would be something, lol.
Or, pwe/cryptic throws some coding into the game where if one is not dressed appropriately for the weather, either just visually or otherwise, the char in question takes cold damage until they go put some clothes on.
I have some female Boffs and one female char. They dress(And are proportioned) normally. Could have something to do with being a grownup for the last thirty one years. Just sayin'.
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One of those Bridge Bunnies hefts her bat'leth to take the head off a Federation redshirt and at the penultimate moment, both the vertabrae of the Human and the neck strap of her, ahem, "armor" part with no chance of repair.
Now that would be something, lol.
Or, pwe/cryptic throws some coding into the game where if one is not dressed appropriately for the weather, either just visually or otherwise, the char in question takes cold damage until they go put some clothes on.
I have some female Boffs and one female char. They dress(And are proportioned) normally. Could have something to do with being a grownup for the last thirty one years. Just sayin'.
I never went in for the "skimpy clothes" look on female toons either tbh - I dress them for combat, when I even bother to change the default clothes at all.
Although, I will say I do use some modified armor sets for Fallout New Vegas, just because a little extra skin seems appropriate in that game. Not as much in Trek, with some exceptions, obviously.
My guess is "hope" keeps people not playing but posting on the forums. For others, its a path of sad realization and closure. Grieving takes time. The worst "haters" here love the game, or did at some point.
It's a frickin game. I'll dress them as I see fit, up to the limit the dictatorship allows. That said, no, not all my officers or captains run around mostly naked with quantum torpedos in their shirts. I would however like to have the option of wearing the swimwear on my bridge due to the fact that I have one char who is short and round and its great fun to torment a couple fleetmates :P
The black long winter coat looks makes a good uniform coat. I hope I can keep on wearing after the Winter is over. But I am sure they'll kill that hope! Club Wear and Risan stuff should be kept on for those special things.
One of those Bridge Bunnies hefts her bat'leth to take the head off a Federation redshirt and at the penultimate moment, both the vertabrae of the Human and the neck strap of her, ahem, "armor" part with no chance of repair.
Now that would be something, lol.
Or, pwe/cryptic throws some coding into the game where if one is not dressed appropriately for the weather, either just visually or otherwise, the char in question takes cold damage until they go put some clothes on.
I have some female Boffs and one female char. They dress(And are proportioned) normally. Could have something to do with being a grownup for the last thirty one years. Just sayin'.
This, so much. You will, of course, notice that female Marines don't go into combat in bikinis. If I could switch boff costumes on the fly both of the women on my Fed's away team would be in Odyssey tactical dirtside; as it is they're in Odyssey service blacks.
Hell, even the Orion on my KDF char wears Honor Guard.
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This, so much. You will, of course, notice that female Marines don't go into combat in bikinis. If I could switch boff costumes on the fly both of the women on my Fed's away team would be in Odyssey tactical dirtside; as it is they're in Odyssey service blacks.
Hell, even the Orion on my KDF char wears Honor Guard.
Female marines shouldn't go into combat wearing bikinis because well, they are flesh and blood people. These game females are made up of pixels...who cares what they wear, it's not real.
Or, pwe/cryptic throws some coding into the game where if one is not dressed appropriately for the weather, either just visually or otherwise, the char in question takes cold damage until they go put some clothes on.
I second this motion. I get an attack of ocd when I see some toon who is exploiting the Summer Event bug running around shoeless and clothless in freezing temperatures. I always end up staring and wondering "Why are you not getting frostbite and hypothermia." Speaking as someone whose characters have proper dress for all climates, who thinos that uniform means uniform, and someone with ocd, the swimwear off the beach is an eyesore in most situations. I recall a number of times that I got promoted, and discovered that someone had apparently sent one or more strippergrams to Asmiral Quinn, Admiral Kererek, or Chancellor Jam'paked.
The black long winter coat looks makes a good uniform coat. I hope I can keep on wearing after the Winter is over. But I am sure they'll kill that hope! Club Wear and Risan stuff should be kept on for those special things.
Yeah you can wear the coats after the winter event.
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I second this motion. I get an attack of ocd when I see some toon who is exploiting the Summer Event bug running around shoeless and clothless in freezing temperatures. I always end up staring and wondering "Why are you not getting frostbite and hypothermia."
That would be hilarious. Coupled with all your armor stats crashing to 0 while thus (barely) clad.
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I've lived all over the Midwest and for a while on the East Coast, and a lot of trips to both of the "tropical-esque" locations, Florida and California. I've seen more inappropriate attire worn in public in the colder climes than I ever saw on a beach in Cali. It's actually kind of weird know that I think about it....
Actually, this should give you an idea of what's out there....
ROTFLMAO... is see stuff like this all the time at the hospital where I work...
And it's usually NOT the patients.
In game, I just undress all the ladies with my eyes.
:cool:
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And the amount of wardrobe malfunctions that those costumes entailed.
A day on the TOS set was closer to a visit to a gentlemens club than to a business meeting. Unless you hire a stripper for your business meetings.
Taking notes for my next business meeting...
Erm, i dont think anyone is being forced into what they can or cant wear off duty. What they are saying is..
a. it isn't appropriate to wear certain things in certain areas.
or
b. its only appropriate to wear certain thing in certain areas.
Kinda like life in general. By todays standards, you dont generally wear clubbing gear or bikinis to the office, even on mufty days, smart casual as a rule. You certainly wouldnt wear clubbing gear or bikinis to head office. So I fail to see the need for your 'soap box and megaphone' I see no excuses, forceful directives or agendas being made, it is just a basic, sensible dress code, that sits comfortably within the IP.
Why? It's a matter of personal choice, that's why.
A. Who determines that it's not "appropriate"? (Hint: The answer is not "Cryptic" or "PWE" or even "CBS," because you are the one making this assertion about what is and is not "appropriate.") On what basis do they come to this determination? What are the implications if they go the other way and embrace more freedom of choice? Moralists need to learn one simple fact: If you don't like it, then you don't have to do it, but you have no right to prohibit others from doing it.
B. I believe that many would be satisfied if the swimwear were simply available in some places off Risa, as has been requested several times. A player's ship interior, Club 47 (and the bar in Starfleet Academy, if we want to be consistent), the bar in First City, the balcony at New Romulus Command, Drozana Station, and Fleet Holdings are hardly "inappropriate" areas for this sort of attire. Granted, restricting to Club 47 (and the bar in Starfleet Academy), the bar in First City, and the balcony at New Romulus Command might be more work than the Devs want to do, so a compromise is possible there: all of ESD (and Starfleet Academy), all of First City, and all of New Romulus Command. And while we're on the subject, why can Clubwear be used on ESD and First City, but not in New Romulus Command? Oh, right, we Romulans, famed (or notorious, depending on who you ask) for ROMULAN ALE, don't get a bar or club (except on our warbirds) for some unfathomable reason.
But I didn't come here to participate in endless and pointless debates, I came here to say:
....aaaand seems nabreeki has beat me to it.
Yeah, no. There's nobody "glitching" uniforms or the like to enable this. If you made your swimwear costume before a certain date, and have not edited the costume since that date, then you can wear it off Risa. Simple and doesn't require anyone to do anything, only to have done something before a certain date and to not do something after that date.
shpoks, what is the antecedent of "that" in your assertion? And, prithee, tell me then, good sir, how doth society work? Someone decides for everyone else on harmless matters of choice? :rolleyes:
Oh, well, at any rate, how things are is not always the same as how things ought to be.
Every time your character uses the shirtless option from Risa, a Smurf dies.
LMAO!!!
Oh, right, because we can't possibly be advocating for anything serious in the offline world if we're advocating for something in a game. Does the phrase "False Dilemma" mean anything to you?
The developers made the call on these special costume items. It's their sandbox we're playing in, so they lay the ground rules. If we don't like the ground rules, we can give feedback. And MAYBE they will change a given ground rule at some point. But that is their call.
So far, I haven't seen any indication that they are going to change it.
So, instead of playing the SJW card, we just have to go with the flow. That's how it is.
You obviously never lived near a trailer park. Or went into the average Walmart on a hot summer day. And let me tell you, there are people I would not object to wearing a string bikini - and none of them shop at Walmart.
Personal shields do mitigate the risk some, but you are still left open to other attacks that bypass or are not completely stopped by shields. And when you think about it adequate clothing and armor would offer much better protection than what actually happens in-game.
I think it would mitigate some of the "clothing in inappropriate venues" issues if wearing swimwear caused your armor to unslot and it wouldn't be slottable again until you changed into something more combat-appropriate. :evil grin:
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or anything that could be classed as swimwear, for that matter - closest i ever saw was a tank-top
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A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
I've lived all over the Midwest and for a while on the East Coast, and a lot of trips to both of the "tropical-esque" locations, Florida and California. I've seen more inappropriate attire worn in public in the colder climes than I ever saw on a beach in Cali. It's actually kind of weird know that I think about it....
Actually, this should give you an idea of what's out there....
The image you seek to use to illustrate your point is flawed by virtue of being based on Fantasy genre. In that genre, Magic and Illusion are a given. What may appear to be a 'chain mail bikini" may in fact be full plate with a glamour on it to make it appear to be something "flimsy." I give you a "Fail" for that appeal to a flawed "illustration."
Meh, maybe all the clothes in STO are holographically projected a la Picard and Lily in the holodeck in First Contact. We know for a fact they didn't have time to change, but all of the sudden she's wearing a dress with cleavage...
Thank you for taking my previous post to its implications for STO.
One of those Bridge Bunnies hefts her bat'leth to take the head off a Federation redshirt and at the penultimate moment, both the vertabrae of the Human and the neck strap of her, ahem, "armor" part with no chance of repair.
Now that would be something, lol.
Or, pwe/cryptic throws some coding into the game where if one is not dressed appropriately for the weather, either just visually or otherwise, the char in question takes cold damage until they go put some clothes on.
I have some female Boffs and one female char. They dress(And are proportioned) normally. Could have something to do with being a grownup for the last thirty one years. Just sayin'.
I never went in for the "skimpy clothes" look on female toons either tbh - I dress them for combat, when I even bother to change the default clothes at all.
Although, I will say I do use some modified armor sets for Fallout New Vegas, just because a little extra skin seems appropriate in that game. Not as much in Trek, with some exceptions, obviously.
Time will only tell!
This, so much. You will, of course, notice that female Marines don't go into combat in bikinis. If I could switch boff costumes on the fly both of the women on my Fed's away team would be in Odyssey tactical dirtside; as it is they're in Odyssey service blacks.
Hell, even the Orion on my KDF char wears Honor Guard.
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Female marines shouldn't go into combat wearing bikinis because well, they are flesh and blood people. These game females are made up of pixels...who cares what they wear, it's not real.
I second this motion. I get an attack of ocd when I see some toon who is exploiting the Summer Event bug running around shoeless and clothless in freezing temperatures. I always end up staring and wondering "Why are you not getting frostbite and hypothermia." Speaking as someone whose characters have proper dress for all climates, who thinos that uniform means uniform, and someone with ocd, the swimwear off the beach is an eyesore in most situations. I recall a number of times that I got promoted, and discovered that someone had apparently sent one or more strippergrams to Asmiral Quinn, Admiral Kererek, or Chancellor Jam'paked.
Yeah you can wear the coats after the winter event.
That would be hilarious. Coupled with all your armor stats crashing to 0 while thus (barely) clad.
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ROTFLMAO... is see stuff like this all the time at the hospital where I work...
And it's usually NOT the patients.
In game, I just undress all the ladies with my eyes.
:cool:
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