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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Which means they are absolutely dead in the water when T7 ships roll out next year.

    What makes you say T7 ships are coming out next year?
  • fcaptkmtonfcaptkmton Member Posts: 99 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    In a word...no.in several words..no and I don't care that you don't want to participate. You don't have too. However why you have to whine about it,I'll just shake me head at.




    I may spend down some of my stockpiled Christmas supplies on the new jackets but I'm just not feeling like Q's Winter Wonderland this year. I'm not planning on doing the races or going for any of the prizes at least and I may not set foot in there when I login.

    I used to enjoy it but I feel a bit soured on it and like it would be a waste of playtime.

    Anyone else feel the same way?
  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    So what. T3 ships are obsolete by the time you get T5's. That's the way tiers work. Been that way since launch. Deal with it.


    T3s have consoles that can be used in other ships. T5s, nope. Their console was being top of the line ships.
    jaguarskx wrote: »
    What makes you say T7 ships are coming out next year?

    Given that a fresh 60 has effectively level 110 captains running around to deal with, they've gone all in to the power creep game and the only way to keep that going is adding new levels and new tiers of gear. For example see every other MMO out there.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,473 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    T3s have consoles that can be used in other ships. T5s, nope. Their console was being top of the line ships.
    Those Risian ships had consoles that could be put into any other ship. You want to be able to generate a subspace wake in your T6 cruiser? No problem - just unship it from your Risian corvette!
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  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    jonsills wrote: »
    Those Risian ships had consoles that could be put into any other ship. You want to be able to generate a subspace wake in your T6 cruiser? No problem - just unship it from your Risian corvette!

    /sigh,

    Not any other ship, another Risian ship. Or do you count the Science Vesta as a completely distinct class of ship from the Tactical Vesta? If so, then yes, you can use the Vesta consoles in other ships, AS LONG AS THEY ARE VESTAS.

    It says right on the Risian consoles they can ONLY be used on the Risian Corvette, Risian Cruiser, Risian Corvette T5U, and *drumroll* Risian Cruiser T5U.
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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Given that a fresh 60 has effectively level 110 captains running around to deal with, they've gone all in to the power creep game and the only way to keep that going is adding new levels and new tiers of gear. For example see every other MMO out there.

    I am pretty new to MMO. STO is the 1st and only MMO that I play, however, I don't think T7 ships will becoming out next year. My reasoning is as follows...

    Designing new ships and main story missions to get to level 70 is both expensive and time consuming. DR was a major update to STO so I think for the next year Cryptic will had some more content, but not at the scale of DR. They need time to recoup the money that they sunk into such a major expansion.

    T7 ships would cannibalize sales of T6 ships. It would also mean less money for Cryptic when you factor in the cost to designed them and market them. By now everyone knows what the current T6 ships are and the upgrade system for T5 ships. Crytpic has already spent time, money and effort into that. Since Cryptic has already sunk the money into T6 ships, the longer people continue to buy them, the more money Cryptic can make from their investment.

    I think it is safe to say that prior to DR a lot of people were content with being level 50 especially since that has been the max level for about 4 years. Plenty of time for Cryptic to smooth out issues from going beyond the previous max level of 40. I think it will take a couple of years for Cryptic to re-balance the mechanics in STO. Pushing for another level increase when there are still what a lot of people are considering major issues with the DR expansion will likely drive more people away.

    I think it would be in Cryptic's best interest to put off any other increase in level for at least another 2 years. That gives them time to slowly re-balance STO (and it will be a slow process) and also flesh out the T6 ships buy introducing more T6 ships for people to buy.
  • jornadojornado Member Posts: 918 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    jaguarskx wrote: »
    I am pretty new to MMO. STO is the 1st and only MMO that I play, however, I don't think T7 ships will becoming out next year. My reasoning is as follows...

    Designing new ships and main story missions to get to level 70 is both expensive and time consuming. DR was a major update to STO so I think for the next year Cryptic will had some more content, but not at the scale of DR. They need time to recoup the money that they sunk into such a major expansion.

    T7 ships would cannibalize sales of T6 ships. It would also mean less money for Cryptic when you factor in the cost to designed them and market them. By now everyone knows what the current T6 ships are and the upgrade system for T5 ships. Crytpic has already spent time, money and effort into that. Since Cryptic has already sunk the money into T6 ships, the longer people continue to buy them, the more money Cryptic can make from their investment.

    I think it is safe to say that prior to DR a lot of people were content with being level 50 especially since that has been the max level for about 4 years. Plenty of time for Cryptic to smooth out issues from going beyond the previous max level of 40. I think it will take a couple of years for Cryptic to re-balance the mechanics in STO. Pushing for another level increase when there are still what a lot of people are considering major issues with the DR expansion will likely drive more people away.

    I think it would be in Cryptic's best interest to put off any other increase in level for at least another 2 years. That gives them time to slowly re-balance STO (and it will be a slow process) and also flesh out the T6 ships buy introducing more T6 ships for people to buy.

    They have already talked about Fleet T6 ships - extrapolating from Fleet T5 ships, they will effectively be T6.5. The gulf between T5, T5.5, and T5U ships and true endgame ships will be larger, and they will STILL be making money off the upgrades.

    As to ships being expensive and difficult to produce? No slight intended to the game artists, but the ships in STO are not all that spectacular. There are indie games and Trek mods to other games with much higher poly counts and much better texturing. The investment Cryptic puts into the ships is not high compared to, say, what the X series puts into ship models and textures.
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  • ghyudtghyudt Member Posts: 1,112 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I didn't even bother with it last year. Or the year before. Actually, I've never been interested. I guess I have so little to do right now that I just wanna get the new ship and give it a run. So, races only for me. Once a day, each day.
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    sentinel64 wrote: »
    I will participate... but probably won't stay long since too many items are blocked by "per character" grind requirements.

    Not anymore... see the new Tribble notes.

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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    daveyny wrote: »
    Not anymore... see the new Tribble notes.

    :cool:

    From my understanding of it, one character still has to run the new event 10 times to unlock the Warp Cores. So if you just have one character, then there is absolutely no change, but if you have 20 alts, then the grind becomes manageable.
  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Tonight I wanted to do the event. I wanted to log on and have fun blasting snowmen in the face with my Flurry. I got all excited.

    And then, my excitement just died all of a sudden when Delta Rising crept up the back of my throat...
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  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    jaguarskx wrote: »

    T7 ships would cannibalize sales of T6 ships. It would also mean less money for Cryptic when you factor in the cost to designed them and market them. By now everyone knows what the current T6 ships are and the upgrade system for T5 ships. Crytpic has already spent time, money and effort into that. Since Cryptic has already sunk the money into T6 ships, the longer people continue to buy them, the more money Cryptic can make from their investment.

    T6 not only cannibalized T5 but showed they were willing to obsolete "end game" paid-for-with-money ships that had no consoles that could be used outside of the now obsolete class of ships.

    Ships are basically static meshes with a skin and a few database tables for stats and equipment slots.
    This is my Risian Corvette. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
  • ravinravin Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Not sure how running Tides 5-10 times is a grind. Completed 5 runs in 4 hrs, it ran twice in one hour.

    This is the first year I completely participated, more of a summer event guy. I got the ship the 1st winter event, then was done with it. I find it a break from DR.
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