advanced difficulty is NOT suppose to be easy. It is suppose to be at the SAME level the OLD elites were at pre power creep.
now, if you
are NOT level 60
do NOT have t13/14 gear
do NOT have a t6 or fleet t5u ship
If you lack these things, any of them,
YOU ARE UNDERPOWERED and should expect hardship
the content is not over powered. you are lacking
the difference from t12-t13 is not like t11-t12 there is a much greater power divide and the same thing goes for t13-14, the delta is much greater than t12-t13
think of it like this.
IF!!!
T11 is 20% stronger than than T10
T12 is also 20% stronger than T11
but
on that same scale
T13 is 45% stronger than T12
and
T14 is 60% stronger than T13
those numbers aren't accurate by any means but I used them to show the point
No, they aren't.
Level 50, Lvl 40 or Lvl 50 T5, a well thought out build, Mk XII equipment, perhaps a few select doffs varying in cost from free to "if you have to ask..." will get you through Advanced and Elite.
Epic 14, T6/FT5-U just makes you OP, the content was released needing a buff.
Anyone wandering around not even able to do 10k DPS should stick to normal, as that is where their level is - if it wasn't for the frakked reward layout, Advanced and Elite being made slightly tedious wouldn't be an issue at all...
the NEW ELITE difficulty is intended for organized, preassembled groups where each team member knows thier roll ahead of time, are using voice communication to work together and all of the members in the group have GOLD SHIPS (in case you don't know what that means, that means, ships with full T14 gold quality gear)
It is nowhere, absolutely nowhere, near requiring this - Only a PvP tournament or trying for DPS records needs that level of co-ordination.
in other words its doable in lvl 50 ships with some good gear but lvl 60 with top of the line ships isnt needed.
my biggest gripe and one that has made me think twice about buying the Guardian is the so called advanced stf.
now upping the hp is one thing but it doesn't work when u also have to do the original optional missions as well.
Take Voth breach for example we were doing fine untill we reached the hanger, others felt that taking on one group at a time was best BUT we also had to save the captured ships or the mission would fail.
So one of us ran to help them and at the same time close the doors, the result was every voth ship in the area moving against the team, it got to a point where we were being spawned killed by npc's it made it undoable.
IMO advanced needs either nerfing the health more or making the original optional tasks no longer a auto fail if you dont do them.
"It appears we have lost our sex appeal, captain."- Tuvok
So...join a fleet. Not only that, but join a LEVELED fleet...for EVERYONE. Umm...yeah...how about no.
Buy lobi...umm so you want me to spend REAL money on this? Because you know, the getting masters keys with EC might be a might hard since we can't do any of the hard contents that gives anything worth a damn at any reasonable rates.
And crafting...with what dilitium again? Because you know, running normal for 240 a pop a BILLION times to craft a set of mark 14 weapons (not even all the other stuff) is gonna be so much fun...and worthwhile...and what the hell is wrong with you?!?
What is stopping EVERYONE from joining a leveled fleet? social issues? ignorance? pride? what?
Gameplay should be difficult for free2play. Otherwise, no need to spend any real money.
Alternatively, cryptic could put content behind a paywall and require real money to play. Be glad you can play all the content for free. Be very glad.
Me and you, we are both free2play players. We are not cryptic customers. We are part of the content, to provide entertainment to the paying players. Don't forget this.
STO is free2play, not a free4all. Either spend real money, or farm. Login every day and do a little farming. Play all profitable events. EC is easy to earn if you know how to work the exchange. Most of my lobi is from events in which cryptic gives away free lobi. I rarely open lockboxes, but I do sell them on the exchange.
honestly advanced should of been left a one and remained exactly like the old elite with us being leveled down to 50 instead of bumping every thing to 60
the only difficulty to have level 60 should be elite.
@OP
You are not considering one main factor that is left out. Advanced PVE's also are the only way to get the special items (isomorphic, neural, etc.) that are needed to buy items from the rep system.
The rep system is a lvl 50 based system and was set up for it. This is no longer the case. This also make all tier 5 ships useless for these missions, yet these are the types of missions these ships were designed to be used within.
If you use your logic then the rep system should be rescaled to only begin at lvl 60 and the stuff within it moved up to mark 14.
The problem the developers did not take into account is that they kept the rep system start at lvl 50. Yet they scaled the advanced pve's for higher level players, not for those just beginning the rep to be able to gain the items and save them, while they also build their rep. The new changes now require a starting player to begin saving and building rep at lvl 50 right away, because they will also have to upgrade that equipment as they work to get too level 60.
As you noted the scale between level 50 and 60 is more exponential in power and starts right at level 51. Mark 13 equipment should only become available at level 55 not level 51. When you look at overall game progression it works this way. Yet since DR it does not. You need to be lvl 50 to use mk12..but in one lvl you can go above that to mk13. This right here is the mistake the developers made in the game progression.
Prehaps they need to add a new catagory like master to the pve que for level 60 people. Keep normal below level 50 so people could save up makrs like before. Use advanced to earn 1 speciaial item. Uese elite to give the old bonus to one player of a few more. And master for lvl 60 and above with the proper gear score. many games use gear score for advance end of game play....yet you still need a way for people to get to that area. You need a way for them to progress.
advanced difficulty is NOT suppose to be easy. It is suppose to be at the SAME level the OLD elites were at pre power creep.
now, if you
are NOT level 60
do NOT have t13/14 gear
do NOT have a t6 or fleet t5u ship
If you lack these things, any of them,
YOU ARE UNDERPOWERED and should expect hardship
the content is not over powered. you are lacking
the difference from t12-t13 is not like t11-t12 there is a much greater power divide and the same thing goes for t13-14, the delta is much greater than t12-t13
think of it like this.
IF!!!
T11 is 20% stronger than than T10
T12 is also 20% stronger than T11
but
on that same scale
T13 is 45% stronger than T12
and
T14 is 60% stronger than T13
those numbers aren't accurate by any means but I used them to show the point
the NEW ELITE difficulty is intended for organized, preassembled groups where each team member knows thier roll ahead of time, are using voice communication to work together and all of the members in the group have GOLD SHIPS (in case you don't know what that means, that means, ships with full T14 gold quality gear)
I have all MkXIII except for 2 universal , i chose to do a smaller assignment in Eti Edriani had my monbosh in middle of battle , my settings were on Elite I was fighting 2 federation science vessels,
Now I'm a beam boat with half elachi half elite beam arrays, i was hitting 1 of them with all my beams from side , the sci ships both were hitting me with single shot phasers and i looked at dmg there average hit were around 2k to 1k each of them , my hits were 3400 or higher and i was trading more shots fired and more shots hitting them , I was getting owned they were hammering me , both sci ships said -5 they were killing me with less than a quarter of shots than I fired and had less power ? ever since my noob days at lvl 1 I'd feel weak and beaten by weaker enemy's than me just to level up to 2 , this feels the same ? so I fire more weps do more dmg get owned by enemys with less level skill and with less xp given on killing them on elite ? when my settings are on normal now I level faster how stupid is that and there math dynamics work haha , Its not about normal advanced or elite you say LOL I say by fact of me playing on normal getting more drops and xp or sp you 100% wrong and there math of drops is wrong and there lack of PVP killed that off completely don't you think ? haha get real play before you post sympathy just to be wrong nuff said later........
Oh, i don't know...maybe you wanna be in a fleet with friends maybe? Or maybe you just don't wanna. Saying that EVERYONE new from now on MUST join an established and fully leveled fleet or stand no chance of advancement is pretty stupid.
Not even slightly important anyway, as long as you are in one, and you have Provision use access, you can get the stuff by Starbase Invites.
Except for ships, you need to leave your Fleet, join a different Fleet of required Tier for your ship, then you can go back to your original Fleet. Less Fleets do this as the Fleet's own Provisions are used buying the ship, but some do.
advanced difficulty is NOT suppose to be easy. It is suppose to be at the SAME level the OLD elites were at pre power creep.
now, if you
are NOT level 60
do NOT have t13/14 gear
do NOT have a t6 or fleet t5u ship
If you lack these things, any of them,
YOU ARE UNDERPOWERED and should expect hardship
the content is not over powered. you are lacking
the difference from t12-t13 is not like t11-t12 there is a much greater power divide and the same thing goes for t13-14, the delta is much greater than t12-t13
think of it like this.
IF!!!
T11 is 20% stronger than than T10
T12 is also 20% stronger than T11
but
on that same scale
T13 is 45% stronger than T12
and
T14 is 60% stronger than T13
those numbers aren't accurate by any means but I used them to show the point
the NEW ELITE difficulty is intended for organized, preassembled groups where each team member knows thier roll ahead of time, are using voice communication to work together and all of the members in the group have GOLD SHIPS (in case you don't know what that means, that means, ships with full T14 gold quality gear)
Give that man a medal !
Stop being bad, git gud or play normal.
If you can't play Advanced or Elite - how can you hope in hell to get the resources necessary to have XIII in the first place.
You can't.
But you can BUY THEM. EC, DIL, ZEN, $$$$.
The casual player doesn't have a chance. And they are leaving.
The game is no longer F2P.
I never spent any real money on STO.
This morning I finished upgrading all my beams, tac consoles, enhanced neutronium consoles, and various dps-related consoles on my fleet Avenger to MK XIV. Cost me approximately 100M EC and 150k diilthium. It's expensive but all the EC and dilthium can be farmed. In my experience with free2play games, STO is the easiest to farm. Earning EC in STO is so easy.
I honestly don't even know where those technology point things come from. I simply buy them on the exchange and then use them to upgrade my gear. Resources from Advanced/elite missions are absolutely not required to upgrade gear.
Casual players who only login a few times every month and don't spend any real money, do not deserve to have the best gear.
By the way, I did advanced Khitomer yesterday and it was not terribly difficult.
You don't need super high dps to do Khitomer. You need time and be able to tank or survive the cubes when they warp in. If you cant solo a cube, then let someone else attack it first.
There is a difference between login and farm and login and spend real money or your stuck in the kiddy pool section.
If advanced/elite are nerfed, then everyone will be stuck in the kiddy pool.
Before Delta rising, almost the entire game was one big kiddy pool.
I almost quit playing in summer because the game was too easy. STF's were boringly easy.
Only reason I returned is (1) for the new episode and (2) for the increased difficulty.
Cryptic is a for-profit company, not a charity.
Free players do not pay Cryptic's bills.
Free players are allowed to play because they add value to Cryptic's games.
If STO was more profitable as pay2play, then free players such as me would be kicked.
Free players are not kicked because the paying players want/need/enjoy playing with free players.
Free players are allowed for the benefit of paying players.
If Cryptic were able to create NPC's which were more fun to play with, than free2play players, then free2play players would no longer be welcome because there would be no need for free2play players. I believe you already understand all this.
Accept it and deal with it.
Cryptic should focus their attention on Star Trek fans (I am a huge Star trek fan). Keep the paying star trek fans happy, whether that means free2play or pay2play or whatever.
The random mmo player who thinks STO is just another mmo is not the type of player who Cryptic should target. The random mmo player will not play STO forever. She/he will, sooner or later,move on to another random mmo. The star trek fans will always come back, at least until another Star Trek mmo or game is released. Catering to Star trek fans means catering to players who have been playing STO for many years, which means catering to well-geared players.
By the way, in my not-so-humble opinion, Delta Rising is definitely the best STO content released by Cryptic ever. If I thought DR was garbage, I would not hesitate to say it, but DR is very very good and that's why I am here on the forum, defending DR.
advanced difficulty is NOT suppose to be easy. It is suppose to be at the SAME level the OLD elites were at pre power creep.
now, if you
are NOT level 60
do NOT have t13/14 gear
do NOT have a t6 or fleet t5u ship
If you lack these things, any of them,
YOU ARE UNDERPOWERED and should expect hardship
the content is not over powered. you are lacking
the difference from t12-t13 is not like t11-t12 there is a much greater power divide and the same thing goes for t13-14, the delta is much greater than t12-t13
think of it like this.
IF!!!
T11 is 20% stronger than than T10
T12 is also 20% stronger than T11
but
on that same scale
T13 is 45% stronger than T12
and
T14 is 60% stronger than T13
those numbers aren't accurate by any means but I used them to show the point
the NEW ELITE difficulty is intended for organized, preassembled groups where each team member knows thier roll ahead of time, are using voice communication to work together and all of the members in the group have GOLD SHIPS (in case you don't know what that means, that means, ships with full T14 gold quality gear)
But the new advanced is not the old elite, the rewards got cut instead of elite just getting more and the upgrade system is an insult. You are lying.
Oh and you are underpowered in a different area....
My complaint with the "New! Improved!" STFs has never been about my ability to successfully complete them. After all, they did not improve the AI, just made the ships bigger and added more of them. A longer Turkey Shoot against bigger and more numerous turkeys is still just a Turkey Shoot.
My complaint is with the rewards being halved.
As to the tone of the OP's post.
Obvious troll measuring his epeen in public is obvious. :rolleyes:
A six year old boy and his starship. Living the dream.
To the OP and all those ranting, did not have the patience to read all 6 pages are that, remember that gear is no substitute for skill.
This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
To the OP and all those ranting, did not have the patience to read all 6 pages are that, remember that gear is no substitute for skill.
She was lying.
sorry.
Anyway the point is and always will be: they upped the ante in advanced instead of keeping it "the same" and they cut down the rewards instead of simply handing out more rewards to the elite players.
EDIT: this comes strait from Al Captain Geko Rivera, (lead designer) listen for yourself in the priorityone podcasts.
advanced difficulty is NOT suppose to be easy. It is suppose to be at the SAME level the OLD elites were at pre power creep.
now, if you
are NOT level 60
do NOT have t13/14 gear
do NOT have a t6 or fleet t5u ship
If you lack these things, any of them,
YOU ARE UNDERPOWERED and should expect hardship
the content is not over powered. you are lacking
the difference from t12-t13 is not like t11-t12 there is a much greater power divide and the same thing goes for t13-14, the delta is much greater than t12-t13
think of it like this.
IF!!!
T11 is 20% stronger than than T10
T12 is also 20% stronger than T11
but
on that same scale
T13 is 45% stronger than T12
and
T14 is 60% stronger than T13
those numbers aren't accurate by any means but I used them to show the point
the NEW ELITE difficulty is intended for organized, preassembled groups where each team member knows thier roll ahead of time, are using voice communication to work together and all of the members in the group have GOLD SHIPS (in case you don't know what that means, that means, ships with full T14 gold quality gear)
*Sniff ..sniff*
:eek:
I smell troll thread :eek:
advanced difficulty is NOT suppose to be easy. It is suppose to be at the SAME level the OLD elites were at pre power creep.
now, if you
are NOT level 60
do NOT have t13/14 gear
do NOT have a t6 or fleet t5u ship
This is no troll. Just tired of people complaining its hard when they are in plain TRIBBLE purple t12 gear. Purple t12 gear is doable for very skilled players. Normal is where most should stay.
Advanced should prevent players from joining if they are unable to reach its minimum dps limit of 10k. Elite should block those under 25k dps
Dude if you read what your said its saying
OH hey you dont got the greatest gear ?
dying alot?
need the gear but cant get the gear becasue the best gear is locked behind the STFs which is harder then what you can do without the best gear but to get the best gear you need to do the advanced STF but to do the advanced STFs you need the best gears therefore infinite grind?
seriosuly your logic is flawed
If as was promised the advanced level was as the old elites its would be cool however its not its way to hard unless you got an uber ship and gear.
In short cryptic lied about difficulty and now we suffer wondering wth to do next.
Im running Mark12 purple gear on my Scimi and have no problems with any advanced, but it absolutley sucks trying to pug because I can no longer carry the team if shiite goes south.
You cant fix stupid and making optionals mandatory only increases the risk of failure. And dont give me TRIBBLE about, well then you need to form a team and work together....WTF.....hell I cant even type fast enough and most pugs dont even pay attention to chat and who the hell am I to order people around..they dont know me. The teamwork needs to be taken to Elite..not Advanced.
statements made by devs dont worry you can stay compettetive with your current ships and gear. advanced is the same as old elite.
So devs are saying that the old gear is still competetive and new advanced is equal to old elite so T3 ships should be able to handle them as T3 ships could handle old elite.
According to you T5U or T6 ships are required along with Mk XIV gear so according to you the devs were lying
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No, they aren't.
Level 50, Lvl 40 or Lvl 50 T5, a well thought out build, Mk XII equipment, perhaps a few select doffs varying in cost from free to "if you have to ask..." will get you through Advanced and Elite.
Epic 14, T6/FT5-U just makes you OP, the content was released needing a buff.
Anyone wandering around not even able to do 10k DPS should stick to normal, as that is where their level is - if it wasn't for the frakked reward layout, Advanced and Elite being made slightly tedious wouldn't be an issue at all...
It is nowhere, absolutely nowhere, near requiring this - Only a PvP tournament or trying for DPS records needs that level of co-ordination.
in other words its doable in lvl 50 ships with some good gear but lvl 60 with top of the line ships isnt needed.
my biggest gripe and one that has made me think twice about buying the Guardian is the so called advanced stf.
now upping the hp is one thing but it doesn't work when u also have to do the original optional missions as well.
Take Voth breach for example we were doing fine untill we reached the hanger, others felt that taking on one group at a time was best BUT we also had to save the captured ships or the mission would fail.
So one of us ran to help them and at the same time close the doors, the result was every voth ship in the area moving against the team, it got to a point where we were being spawned killed by npc's it made it undoable.
IMO advanced needs either nerfing the health more or making the original optional tasks no longer a auto fail if you dont do them.
"It appears we have lost our sex appeal, captain."- Tuvok
What is stopping EVERYONE from joining a leveled fleet? social issues? ignorance? pride? what?
Gameplay should be difficult for free2play. Otherwise, no need to spend any real money.
Alternatively, cryptic could put content behind a paywall and require real money to play. Be glad you can play all the content for free. Be very glad.
Me and you, we are both free2play players. We are not cryptic customers. We are part of the content, to provide entertainment to the paying players. Don't forget this.
STO is free2play, not a free4all. Either spend real money, or farm. Login every day and do a little farming. Play all profitable events. EC is easy to earn if you know how to work the exchange. Most of my lobi is from events in which cryptic gives away free lobi. I rarely open lockboxes, but I do sell them on the exchange.
If you can't play Advanced or Elite - how can you hope in hell to get the resources necessary to have XIII in the first place.
You can't.
But you can BUY THEM. EC, DIL, ZEN, $$$$.
The casual player doesn't have a chance. And they are leaving.
The game is no longer F2P.
The lied.
then tell me how to get, ACP, BNP, implants, and cybernetics to get the rep gear
they are not offered in normal
the only difficulty to have level 60 should be elite.
Open your wallet, buy zen, convert zen into dil, invest into crafting.
Working as intended.
And I remember you being Cryptic defender when I criticized DR before release, you got what you defended - enjoy.
when did i defend any thing? have a link or are you just confused?
You are not considering one main factor that is left out. Advanced PVE's also are the only way to get the special items (isomorphic, neural, etc.) that are needed to buy items from the rep system.
The rep system is a lvl 50 based system and was set up for it. This is no longer the case. This also make all tier 5 ships useless for these missions, yet these are the types of missions these ships were designed to be used within.
If you use your logic then the rep system should be rescaled to only begin at lvl 60 and the stuff within it moved up to mark 14.
The problem the developers did not take into account is that they kept the rep system start at lvl 50. Yet they scaled the advanced pve's for higher level players, not for those just beginning the rep to be able to gain the items and save them, while they also build their rep. The new changes now require a starting player to begin saving and building rep at lvl 50 right away, because they will also have to upgrade that equipment as they work to get too level 60.
As you noted the scale between level 50 and 60 is more exponential in power and starts right at level 51. Mark 13 equipment should only become available at level 55 not level 51. When you look at overall game progression it works this way. Yet since DR it does not. You need to be lvl 50 to use mk12..but in one lvl you can go above that to mk13. This right here is the mistake the developers made in the game progression.
Prehaps they need to add a new catagory like master to the pve que for level 60 people. Keep normal below level 50 so people could save up makrs like before. Use advanced to earn 1 speciaial item. Uese elite to give the old bonus to one player of a few more. And master for lvl 60 and above with the proper gear score. many games use gear score for advance end of game play....yet you still need a way for people to get to that area. You need a way for them to progress.
I have all MkXIII except for 2 universal , i chose to do a smaller assignment in Eti Edriani had my monbosh in middle of battle , my settings were on Elite I was fighting 2 federation science vessels,
Now I'm a beam boat with half elachi half elite beam arrays, i was hitting 1 of them with all my beams from side , the sci ships both were hitting me with single shot phasers and i looked at dmg there average hit were around 2k to 1k each of them , my hits were 3400 or higher and i was trading more shots fired and more shots hitting them , I was getting owned they were hammering me , both sci ships said -5 they were killing me with less than a quarter of shots than I fired and had less power ? ever since my noob days at lvl 1 I'd feel weak and beaten by weaker enemy's than me just to level up to 2 , this feels the same ? so I fire more weps do more dmg get owned by enemys with less level skill and with less xp given on killing them on elite ? when my settings are on normal now I level faster how stupid is that and there math dynamics work haha , Its not about normal advanced or elite you say LOL I say by fact of me playing on normal getting more drops and xp or sp you 100% wrong and there math of drops is wrong and there lack of PVP killed that off completely don't you think ? haha get real play before you post sympathy just to be wrong nuff said later........
Not even slightly important anyway, as long as you are in one, and you have Provision use access, you can get the stuff by Starbase Invites.
Except for ships, you need to leave your Fleet, join a different Fleet of required Tier for your ship, then you can go back to your original Fleet. Less Fleets do this as the Fleet's own Provisions are used buying the ship, but some do.
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Give that man a medal !
Stop being bad, git gud or play normal.
I never spent any real money on STO.
This morning I finished upgrading all my beams, tac consoles, enhanced neutronium consoles, and various dps-related consoles on my fleet Avenger to MK XIV. Cost me approximately 100M EC and 150k diilthium. It's expensive but all the EC and dilthium can be farmed. In my experience with free2play games, STO is the easiest to farm. Earning EC in STO is so easy.
I honestly don't even know where those technology point things come from. I simply buy them on the exchange and then use them to upgrade my gear. Resources from Advanced/elite missions are absolutely not required to upgrade gear.
Casual players who only login a few times every month and don't spend any real money, do not deserve to have the best gear.
By the way, I did advanced Khitomer yesterday and it was not terribly difficult.
You don't need super high dps to do Khitomer. You need time and be able to tank or survive the cubes when they warp in. If you cant solo a cube, then let someone else attack it first.
If advanced/elite are nerfed, then everyone will be stuck in the kiddy pool.
Before Delta rising, almost the entire game was one big kiddy pool.
I almost quit playing in summer because the game was too easy. STF's were boringly easy.
Only reason I returned is (1) for the new episode and (2) for the increased difficulty.
Cryptic is a for-profit company, not a charity.
Free players do not pay Cryptic's bills.
Free players are allowed to play because they add value to Cryptic's games.
If STO was more profitable as pay2play, then free players such as me would be kicked.
Free players are not kicked because the paying players want/need/enjoy playing with free players.
Free players are allowed for the benefit of paying players.
If Cryptic were able to create NPC's which were more fun to play with, than free2play players, then free2play players would no longer be welcome because there would be no need for free2play players. I believe you already understand all this.
Accept it and deal with it.
Cryptic should focus their attention on Star Trek fans (I am a huge Star trek fan). Keep the paying star trek fans happy, whether that means free2play or pay2play or whatever.
The random mmo player who thinks STO is just another mmo is not the type of player who Cryptic should target. The random mmo player will not play STO forever. She/he will, sooner or later,move on to another random mmo. The star trek fans will always come back, at least until another Star Trek mmo or game is released. Catering to Star trek fans means catering to players who have been playing STO for many years, which means catering to well-geared players.
By the way, in my not-so-humble opinion, Delta Rising is definitely the best STO content released by Cryptic ever. If I thought DR was garbage, I would not hesitate to say it, but DR is very very good and that's why I am here on the forum, defending DR.
But the new advanced is not the old elite, the rewards got cut instead of elite just getting more and the upgrade system is an insult. You are lying.
Oh and you are underpowered in a different area....
F**CK THAT! :mad:
My complaint is with the rewards being halved.
As to the tone of the OP's post.
Obvious troll measuring his epeen in public is obvious. :rolleyes:
She was lying.
sorry.
Anyway the point is and always will be: they upped the ante in advanced instead of keeping it "the same" and they cut down the rewards instead of simply handing out more rewards to the elite players.
*Sniff ..sniff*
:eek:
I smell troll thread :eek:
The troll is strong with this one
Trollololololololololololololol
Dude if you read what your said its saying
OH hey you dont got the greatest gear ?
dying alot?
need the gear but cant get the gear becasue the best gear is locked behind the STFs which is harder then what you can do without the best gear but to get the best gear you need to do the advanced STF but to do the advanced STFs you need the best gears therefore infinite grind?
seriosuly your logic is flawed
If as was promised the advanced level was as the old elites its would be cool however its not its way to hard unless you got an uber ship and gear.
In short cryptic lied about difficulty and now we suffer wondering wth to do next.
U mad players? i expect that from cryptic soon
You cant fix stupid and making optionals mandatory only increases the risk of failure. And dont give me TRIBBLE about, well then you need to form a team and work together....WTF.....hell I cant even type fast enough and most pugs dont even pay attention to chat and who the hell am I to order people around..they dont know me. The teamwork needs to be taken to Elite..not Advanced.
This thread was just stupid from the start!
So devs are saying that the old gear is still competetive and new advanced is equal to old elite so T3 ships should be able to handle them as T3 ships could handle old elite.
According to you T5U or T6 ships are required along with Mk XIV gear so according to you the devs were lying
That's funny because the same Al Rivera said you could be competative in the new Advanced with your T5 ships and MK XII gear, no need to upgrade.
Remember all those times he said that. Now suddenly he's saying we need to upgrade to be competative.
Hmmm... me thinks I smell a spin.