Science particle gen builds on tribble were obliterating vaadwar and other enemies even 49k beamboats had trouble with. Check page three and later in the thread about beating one of the new advanced queues with all optionals for details.
Yah with the focus much more so on single enemies and small groups science does generally have an easier time with DR (more of a point to debuffing and power draining if the target isn't going to immediately explode with just a wee-bit more firepower.)
The Kazon always reminded me of Monty Python; the Holy Grail. Dude taunting from the castle.
I've been watching Voy again in prep for DR. This is going to make the early seasons much more ammusing. :P
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Science particle gen builds on tribble were obliterating vaadwar and other enemies even 49k beamboats had trouble with. Check page three and later in the thread about beating one of the new advanced queues with all optionals for details.
Trust me I know I flew a part gen torp sci boat on tribble. But right now people don't fly them, and even when they do they fly them like faw cruisers or vesta/dyson style escorts. Part gen or energy siphon builds are few and rare.
Which is why we have so many science sucks posts. People just don't get them so they don't buy them, so Cryptic doean't make them.
Giving the kazon ship some thought, It seems to me, that they through it in there, to offer players who don't have the Zen/Dilithium needed to buy the ships , a chance to at least get the feel for the upgraded ships.
But still , Kazon LOL.
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Trust me I know I flew a part gen torp sci boat on tribble. But right now people don't fly them, and even when they do they fly them like faw cruisers or vesta/dyson style escorts. Part gen or energy siphon builds are few and rare.
Which is why we have so many science sucks posts. People just don't get them so they don't buy them, so Cryptic doean't make them.
Yup, one guy replied to one of my posts saying more than one flow caps console on a ship is a waste. Everyone likes flying sci ships as FAW beam boats therefore nerfing their sci skills. Those 5 sci console slots should be used the same way 5 tac ones are for maximum effectiveness.
On another note, definitively doing a part gens build for DR content. Have a M
I on the kazon ship, I kinda wish that it had a super agro dump that only worked vs Borg. Since they feel the kazon aren't worth assimilating it makes sense to have low threat.
Science particle gen builds on tribble were obliterating vaadwar and other enemies even 49k beamboats had trouble with. Check page three and later in the thread about beating one of the new advanced queues with all optionals for details.
Yup, one guy replied to one of my posts saying more than one flow caps console on a ship is a waste. Everyone likes flying sci ships as FAW beam boats therefore nerfing their sci skills. Those 5 sci console slots should be used the same way 5 tac ones are for maximum effectiveness.
On another note, definitively doing a part gens build for DR content. Have a M
I love seeing this. One of the biggest lock boxes yet. However the ships and most of the stuff is usually too expensive for me to purchase. However I will see what ground weapons I can get ahold of. I usually buy some for each of my characters to use. I love adding to my ground weapons collection. So you never know what I will hit you with.
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I'm really disapointed there are no doffs in this pack
They are probably saving them for the replacement for the Romulan Survivor Duty Officer Pack - something like the Delta Quadrant Duty Officer Pack or some such thing. I would predict that the Romulan one has very little life left before it is nerfed down to a four Doff Pack to be included in future Lock Boxes. Then The Romulan Survivor Duty Officer Cadre will be released with seven Doffs in it at some even future Lock Box.
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I was ok with T6 having an extra BO while the T5U had an extra console. But these have BOTH?! How is that even remotely balanced? If all the old ships weren't obsolete before they defiantly are now.
Science particle gen builds on tribble were obliterating vaadwar and other enemies even 49k beamboats had trouble with. Check page three and later in the thread about beating one of the new advanced queues with all optionals for details.
Incoming nerf....
I hope not... it's not like it's easy to get a good particle generator build. Needs a level 15 Science R&D toon, pretty much all science slots having particle generators equipped, and possibly even a Exotic Particle Field Exciter [PrtG] and a Conductive RCS Accelerator [PrtG] console, each that go for 200mil EC currently. Then you'd need a good science ship, which will pretty much be limited to the Wells, Palisade, and Vesta Tier 5U ships, none of which are cheap. You're also limited to 1 or 2 deflectors... and now there's a new Trait from this lockbox that will probably be required, and I'm sure will not be cheap on the exchange..
Yeah, I don't expect there to be a lot of Science PartGen builds, it's far easier cheaper to build FAW cruisors or cannon escorts, and those are much easier to play for the vast majority of players.
I was ok with T6 having an extra BO while the T5U had an extra console. But these have BOTH?! How is that even remotely balanced? If all the old ships weren't obsolete before they defiantly are now.
Lockbox and lobi ships are fleet quality.
Tier 5ufleet have more consoles than tier 6 ships but they have equal to tier 6fleet.
There will be a full set of t6 fleet ships in the future. Until then, only lockbox/lobi and t5u fleet ships will have the 11 consoles, and only t6 (any kind) will have the extra boff power.
I hope not... it's not like it's easy to get a good particle generator build. Needs a level 15 Science R&D toon, pretty much all science slots having particle generators equipped, and possibly even a Exotic Particle Field Exciter [PrtG] and a Conductive RCS Accelerator [PrtG] console, each that go for 200mil EC currently. Then you'd need a good science ship, which will pretty much be limited to the Wells, Palisade, and Vesta Tier 5U ships, none of which are cheap. You're also limited to 1 or 2 deflectors... and now there's a new Trait from this lockbox that will probably be required, and I'm sure will not be cheap on the exchange..
Yeah, I don't expect there to be a lot of Science PartGen builds, it's far easier cheaper to build FAW cruisors or cannon escorts, and those are much easier to play for the vast majority of players.
If anything, I expect them to Nerf enemy HP, not player damage.
I'll take a Kazon ship and do the content in it for the lolz
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Tier 5ufleet have more consoles than tier 6 ships but they have equal to tier 6fleet.
There will be a full set of t6 fleet ships in the future. Until then, only lockbox/lobi and t5u fleet ships will have the 11 consoles, and only t6 (any kind) will have the extra boff power.
So they outright lied when they said your old ships won't be obsolete?
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Yah with the focus much more so on single enemies and small groups science does generally have an easier time with DR (more of a point to debuffing and power draining if the target isn't going to immediately explode with just a wee-bit more firepower.)
I've been watching Voy again in prep for DR. This is going to make the early seasons much more ammusing. :P
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Possibly a cat as well, so long as they cost 10-20 Lobi. Anything above that and it'll be a non goer for me.
Trust me I know I flew a part gen torp sci boat on tribble. But right now people don't fly them, and even when they do they fly them like faw cruisers or vesta/dyson style escorts. Part gen or energy siphon builds are few and rare.
Which is why we have so many science sucks posts. People just don't get them so they don't buy them, so Cryptic doean't make them.
lol orangeitis i'd be surprised if the Kazon ship even STARTS at all =P
But still , Kazon LOL.
Yup, one guy replied to one of my posts saying more than one flow caps console on a ship is a waste. Everyone likes flying sci ships as FAW beam boats therefore nerfing their sci skills. Those 5 sci console slots should be used the same way 5 tac ones are for maximum effectiveness.
On another note, definitively doing a part gens build for DR content. Have a M
Incoming nerf....
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They are probably saving them for the replacement for the Romulan Survivor Duty Officer Pack - something like the Delta Quadrant Duty Officer Pack or some such thing. I would predict that the Romulan one has very little life left before it is nerfed down to a four Doff Pack to be included in future Lock Boxes. Then The Romulan Survivor Duty Officer Cadre will be released with seven Doffs in it at some even future Lock Box.
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The Kazon ship is not a Mirror Ship...
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It is just a low quality lockbox ship (Tier 5), which means it should be a free upgrade.
Now, if it just a proc in place of the key price then it is likely a lot of them may be generated, but is still is not a Mirror Ship. :rolleyes:
But that's where they made them flyable by level 40+...
It's our money, and they want it now.
Wow! Didn't know that! :eek: Thx.
Yeah, in the ship blog: http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7010373-delta-expedition-ships :they have hull health listed for 40, 50, and 60.
Tier Five is going to be the new Tier 4 come tomorrow
Even after upgrading a Fleet/lockbox/lobi T5, you're still 2 steps behind.
At least for LoR, they waited a few weeks :9.
Corrosive plasma ftw!
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I hope not... it's not like it's easy to get a good particle generator build. Needs a level 15 Science R&D toon, pretty much all science slots having particle generators equipped, and possibly even a Exotic Particle Field Exciter [PrtG] and a Conductive RCS Accelerator [PrtG] console, each that go for 200mil EC currently. Then you'd need a good science ship, which will pretty much be limited to the Wells, Palisade, and Vesta Tier 5U ships, none of which are cheap. You're also limited to 1 or 2 deflectors... and now there's a new Trait from this lockbox that will probably be required, and I'm sure will not be cheap on the exchange..
Yeah, I don't expect there to be a lot of Science PartGen builds, it's far easier cheaper to build FAW cruisors or cannon escorts, and those are much easier to play for the vast majority of players.
Lockbox and lobi ships are fleet quality.
Tier 5ufleet have more consoles than tier 6 ships but they have equal to tier 6fleet.
There will be a full set of t6 fleet ships in the future. Until then, only lockbox/lobi and t5u fleet ships will have the 11 consoles, and only t6 (any kind) will have the extra boff power.
If anything, I expect them to Nerf enemy HP, not player damage.
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It is called the Hegh'bat. And yes.
What appears to really be a shame, the faction that owns/made each console actually can't acquire or use it on any of their own ships!? W.T.F.
I bought the Varanus, and unless T5 ship consoles are now decoupled from their specific ships, no KDF can use it.
How does this make any sense??
Looks at least as fun as orion slavers, but I doubt any more effective.
So they outright lied when they said your old ships won't be obsolete?