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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    And LOL to the people who didn't think T6 Lockbox & Lobi ships were not going to happen with DR.

    Sorry folks, this only promotes the burial of T5/T5u.

    Wait until moar T6 ships show up, wait until the Fleet T6 show up.
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  • sorojisoroji Member Posts: 97 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    So when is the lobi event?!
  • saedeithsaedeith Member Posts: 628 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Gimme my Cruiser.
  • ak255ak255 Member Posts: 317 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    "The Kazon Raider is a Tier 5 Starship. It can be upgraded to T5-U with a Starship Upgrade Requisition."

    Hold on, I thought Lockbox/Lobi ships get a FREE upgrade to T5-U. Why is this saying I need a Requisition?
  • thutmosis85thutmosis85 Member Posts: 2,358 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    And LOL to the people who didn't think T6 Lockbox & Lobi ships were not going to happen with DR.

    Sorry folks, this only promotes the burial of T5/T5u.

    Wait until moar T6 ships show up, wait until the Fleet T6 show up.

    But ... but ... but ... you can upgrade your Kazon Raider to T5U ... and it's gonna be totally worth it ... for sure ...
    ak255 wrote: »
    "The Kazon Raider is a Tier 5 Starship. It can be upgraded to T5-U with a Starship Upgrade Requisition."

    Hold on, I thought Lockbox/Lobi ships get a FREE upgrade to T5-U. Why is this saying I need a Requisition?

    It's not a "real" Lockbox Ship ... just a "Mirror Ship" ... the ones that cost like 200,000 EC on the Exchange ...

    Not sure why they'll give us even more "freeish" Alien Ships, after the official Statement "Oh Noes, Lockbox Ships have to be in a Lockbox, otherwise everyone would fly them ..."
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    And LOL to the people who didn't think T6 Lockbox & Lobi ships were not going to happen with DR.
    I just didn't expect for a mere Kazon ship to be a whooping TIER FIVE. :eek:
  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    It would be amazing if they had a Sphynx cat. Of course I know the majority of owners think they are ugly..but I don't...
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  • bubblebaflebubblebafle Member Posts: 273 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    But ... but ... but ... you can upgrade your Kazon Raider to T5U ... and it's gonna be totally worth it ... for sure ...



    It's not a "real" Lockbox Ship ... just a "Mirror Ship" ... the ones that cost like 200,000 EC on the Exchange ...

    Not sure why they'll give us even more "freeish" Alien Ships, after the official Statement "Oh Noes, Lockbox Ships have to be in a Lockbox, otherwise everyone would fly them ..."

    A kazon raider.. tier 5U.. lol, that is ridiculous to say the least xD. A runabout could destroy a kazon raider and nobody will know it. lol. It doesnt matter what cryptic say, the kazon are far from being competitive with the new renoved factions. Their tech was always TRIBBLE and even if they advanced in all these years, their ships should be far worst than any other T5U ship. Even worst than almost all the T5 ships.
  • f9thretxcf9thretxc Member Posts: 505 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Man, I like that Benthan Cruiser!
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  • captcokecancaptcokecan Member Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The Hazari Destroyer.. that BOFF layout.. sweet zombie space Jeebus on a cracker...
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  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    soroji wrote: »
    So when is the lobi event?!

    Been two a year, one near march one near November.
  • buddha1369buddha1369 Member Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    So why are two ships 11 console and one 9 console with the option to up to 10?
  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    buddha1369 wrote: »
    So why are two ships 11 console and one 9 console with the option to up to 10?

    Because the first two are there to make you laugh at the Operatons Pack and unlock your wallet, the Kazon ship is just a virtual middlefinger. :P
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    But ... but ... but ... you can upgrade your Kazon Raider to T5U ... and it's gonna be totally worth it ... for sure ...



    It's not a "real" Lockbox Ship ... just a "Mirror Ship" ... the ones that cost like 200,000 EC on the Exchange ...

    The Khazon Raider is a failure as a "Raider" for many crucial reasons:

    Among Raider type ships (KDF BOPs, Breen Raider, Aquarius), the Khazon Raider isn't more maneuverable, isn't faster, isn't more durable, though all are more durable than the KDF BOPs, but the BOPs turn better (not that it matters much these days).

    The Khazon Raider's firepower, even at T5u, isn't anything special. Standard Raider Weapons layout of 4/2. Only 4 TAC Consoles. At least the Breen Raider has 5 TAC Consoles. At least the KDF BOPs have Battle Cloak to make those special flanking attacks hit harder coming out of cloak.

    The only possible benefit for the Khazon Raider is ease of access to a "Raider" ship for certain players.
    - Feds who don't want to fork out the 4 FSM of an Aquarius then having to do the T5u process.
    - Players who want a Raider but are not KDF so no BOPs
    - Players who want a Raider but missed out on the last Winter Event's much more superior Breen Raider.

    But even that is no guarantee that this ease of access will be cheap. For all we know, this ship will go for high prices on the Exchange.

    And a final tip for those that want to play with Raider ships: Speed is life. Hit & Run is the norm and that does not equate to high DPS-peen-bragging rights. You have to fight like that unless you like the idea of hitting the Respawn button a lot. Whether you fly a KDF BOP, Breen Raider, the revamped Aquarius, or this Khazon Raider. Park & Shoot will get you killed quick. You may get away with that with more durable Cruisers and even Escorts. But not with Raider ships. Their hull and shields are by nature, all very low. And KDF BOPs are the lowest of the low, 2nd only to Player Shuttles :D
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  • thutmosis85thutmosis85 Member Posts: 2,358 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    buddha1369 wrote: »
    So why are two ships 11 console and one 9 console with the option to up to 10?

    Cause the Kazon Ship is the new "Mirror Ship" ... higher Drop-Rate but way crappier ...
    The Khazon Raider is a failure as a "Raider" for many crucial reasons:
    A kazon raider.. tier 5U.. lol, that is ridiculous to say the least xD. A runabout could destroy a kazon raider and nobody will know it. lol.


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  • thegalaxy31thegalaxy31 Member Posts: 1,211 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I will get the Benthan vessel. Believe it or not, I have a friend who wants the Kazon ship.. despite its stats.
    I would love to visit this star in-game...or maybe this one!
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I knew it. The first Tier 6 ships with 11 consoles will appear tomorrow with the other Tier 6 ships. Have to say I like what they did with the Kazon ship. There is no reason why a Kazon ship should ever be a Tier 6 ship.

    Guess this means that the first "free" Tier 6 ship will be the next Winter Event ship unless Cryptic decides to release a Tier 6 mission reward ship tomorrow which is extremely unlikely.
  • maddog0000doommaddog0000doom Member Posts: 1,017 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    the assault cruiser looks like a nice tank. apart from that this box is meh. cant wait to get my new kdf ship.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Well I thought they said no upgrades for Mirror Ships. Now the Mirror' ship in this Lock Box can be upgraded. Not a free T5U upgrade for these. Since this is a 9-console ship it only goes up to 10. In that case and the fact you need to pay for the upgrade, there should be NO reason that the Mirror ships from previous Lock Boxes don't get the same treatment. People love them.

    Pretty inconsistent and fairly transparent on what is going on here.
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  • bluegeekbluegeek Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Not really much I want out of that lockbox, to be honest. Corrosive Plasma weapons, maybe. I know better than to expect a ship. Don't particularly want a cat pet. Not sure I want a Talaxian Intel boff; not sure I don't. The kit modules look interesting.

    I'm more interested to see how much lobi they want for that T6 lobi ship, so I know what precedent they're going to set. 800? 1000?
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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I'm just chuckling at how the lockbox and lobi ships are now best of all worlds. 13 boffs AND 11 consoles. I'm not even slightly surprised, and if anything amused by the blatantness of it all, but WOW they aren't even pretending are they? *chuckles*
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    bluegeek wrote: »
    I'm more interested to see how much lobi they want for that T6 lobi ship, so I know what precedent they're going to set. 800? 1000?

    That is going to be an interesting consideration there...hrmm.
  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited October 2014
    The only thing those Talaxians are good for is farming mats while shooting at stuff. On the other hand, I'm glad the devs finally thought of some new space trait for boffs. Now if they could only add something to all the old ones so that ship crews get more diverse.

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  • hausofmartokhausofmartok Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    It would be amazing if they had a Sphynx cat. Of course I know the majority of owners think they are ugly..but I don't...
    Well they said nine species right? So there may be a Sphynx or a Hairless in there. I'm excited to see what species they offer.
  • szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,724 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Place your bets on how long before Projected Singularity gets nerfed!

    (The only reason you don't see it often is because it requires a D'deridex. The pull on that sucker makes Undine rifts look like child's play - and you'll be able to equip it on ANYTHING.)
  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I find it funny you can use these T6 ships at LEVEL 40...
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited October 2014
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited October 2014
    szerontzur wrote: »
    Place your bets on how long before Projected Singularity gets nerfed!

    (The only reason you don't see it often is because it requires a D'deridex. The pull on that sucker makes Undine rifts look like child's play - and you'll be able to equip it on ANYTHING.)

    Does it get boosted by anything like the psych warfare trait?
  • groomofweirdgroomofweird Member Posts: 1,045 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    szerontzur wrote: »
    Place your bets on how long before Projected Singularity gets nerfed!

    (The only reason you don't see it often is because it requires a D'deridex. The pull on that sucker makes Undine rifts look like child's play - and you'll be able to equip it on ANYTHING.)

    Yeah I agree a nerf may be in the air :(
    But in the meantime Im getting one for ships and tribbles :) (I forgot who came out with that on here but its in my vocab now lol).
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited October 2014
    Lol, I just have to ask about

    Positive Feedback Loop:
    Activating any Exotic Damage ability grants you a 10% increase to Hull and Shield Healing effectiveness. Activating any Hull or Shield Heal grants you a 10% Bonus to Exotic Damage. Each effect is mutually exclusive.

    So how the heck do I keep exotic damage boosted by 10% if when I activate an exotic damage ability I loose the boost. At least that is why I understand by mutually exclusive, you get one boost of the other.
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