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"The only thing worse than cryptic not doing anything is cryptic doing anything."
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So im not the only one that notices that.:rolleyes:
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I have an idea for what Season 11 should be; Season 11: The Big Bug Fix.
I have not been able to read my bug tickets in over a year, not even the tickets about not being able to see my tickets.
I find the drama of your signature proof of your immaturity, this means you, DR whiners.
The fact that people are complaining about a ship sale really does drive home the fact that, for some still completely indeterminable reason, the forums are overrun with people all too quick to jump onto the 'I Hate Cryptic!' bandwagon, yet apparently insist on playing STO anyway...
Quick, better grab your torches and pitchforks, lest you be late joining in on the lynching!
Well, at least it gives me a opportunity to purchase the T3 Vandal Destroyer for 800 Zen... tempting, but not sure yet...
But, I agree that I would be nice if there was a larger discount since upgrading a T5 starship is not easy or cheap.
Get that. A measly 800 zen unlocks the legendary Plasmonic Leech for all of your KDF captains? Sounds like one heck of a bargain. This is especially true if you have a power-starved KDF-aligned Romulan.
The fact that people are complaining about a ship sale really does drive home the fact that, for some still completely indeterminable reason, the forums are overrun with people all too quick to jump onto the 'I Hate Cryptic!' bandwagon, yet apparently insist on playing STO anyway...
Quick, better grab your torches and pitchforks, lest you be late joining in on the lynching!
Or there's a logic to it. For one, a sale now makes it less likely there'll be a sale soon after DR launches (I'll be surprised if we get the usual Black Friday sale now). Two, its kinda insulting to receive a 'gift' that looks like a cynical attempt to squeeze just a few extra bucks out of people by trying to encourage impulse-buying of something that'll be second-rate in just 10 days. Three, some people were benefiting from relative increase in the value of their dil, and this throws a wrench in that. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean some reasons aren't totally valid, but you might know that if you weren't too quick to jump onto the 'I Hate Forumgoers!' bandwagon.
Such greed. It really is pathetic how entitled and self centered players are. I can't believe I actually enjoyed getting on the forums to see what players were talking about just a couple of years ago. Now the STO forums resemble the BSGO ones. And what's worse is that they're complaining about a ship sale. Are you kidding me? Are you all so petty that you can't even be happy about this? And you all wonder why we rarely have good relations with our games devs. With players like you, who would want to get involved? Not a single one of you is being forced to spend money on this game. Not one. You have a great game here that's perfectly free to play, and all you can do is ***** about a reduction in ship prices? There is something seriously wrong with each and every one of you, and I'm so embarrassed and ashamed to be considered part of this community right now. So you all can TRIBBLE off, I'm done for now.
Until recently I would've been one of the masses to enjoy this sale with little to no thought of it's reasoning & timing.
I think a -20% ship sale including all ships is a good sale indeed. It's definitely a better deal if you don't want to consider the scope of changes that are about to occur, some of which still have not been given specific details yet. There's a lot of factors involved when purchasing a ship for whatever price & those factors are only going to be expanded with higher priced ships, more ships, more cost to upgrade many current ships, & how utilized will the ship &/or console be for a duration of playing.
As always, to each their own to weigh the value of whether or not to take advantage of this sale or any other sale.
I still think it was improper marketing tactics to begin selling the Operations pack without giving potential buyers all the details of that pack, but some of us players bought it anyways, so again to each their own to decide.
I have plenty of Zen saved-up for their sales, but after they hosed me on an incident after the Dilithium Store closure my days of spending anymore real money is over.
After all, I can only pilot one starship at a time.
First it was "Why isn't there a sale with DR coming?" Then when they do "Omg it's not good enough." I feel sorry for them, no matter what they do, someone attacks them for it.
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What kind of nefarious scheme is this? The only sale I will accept is if it costs 0 zen and they add one 10 trillion dil and 10 trillion EC! The nerve of cryptic. I spend my own personal time, which BTW, is the most important time in the world, to play this game cryptic have given me for free. And they try to insult me with a sale? Try to save me money? The audacity! Were are all the animations!!!
Or there's a logic to it. For one, a sale now makes it less likely there'll be a sale soon after DR launches (I'll be surprised if we get the usual Black Friday sale now). Two, its kinda insulting to receive a 'gift' that looks like a cynical attempt to squeeze just a few extra bucks out of people by trying to encourage impulse-buying of something that'll be second-rate in just 10 days. Three, some people were benefiting from relative increase in the value of their dil, and this throws a wrench in that. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean some reasons aren't totally valid, but you might know that if you weren't too quick to jump onto the 'I Hate Forumgoers!' bandwagon.
The more inane nonsense I read like this, yes, the quicker I am to jump onto the 'I hate Forumgoers' bandwagon...
If someone cannot stop themselves from buying, what you decry as soon to be second rate ships, then that's no one's fault but the person handing over their wallet...
But, then again, I'm mistaken there aren't I? In this day and age people are never responsible for their own actions...
Anyone else considered the silver lining here? By buying those T5 at 20% off, you will be effectively saving yourself the difference of a T5U upgrade...
If there was still a T5 ship people wanted, now would be the time to buy it and then put the discount toward upgrading it come Delta Rising...
But no, let's all just attack Cryptic for actually putting **** on sale, as those players who are not completely cynical and jaded, might actually spend some money!
To buy an end game ship yes it's useless. But to pick up a ship console you want it's all good.
The sheer amount of misinformation that's been spread about T5-U vs. T6...a generation that reads headlines instead of articles...there's little doubt why things are the way they are.
The fact that people are complaining about a ship sale really does drive home the fact that, for some still completely indeterminable reason, the forums are overrun with people all too quick to jump onto the 'I Hate Cryptic!' bandwagon, yet apparently insist on playing STO anyway...
Quick, better grab your torches and pitchforks, lest you be late joining in on the lynching!
Or... it could just be T5 C-Store ships will be TRIBBLE after DR (especially since they already kinda were). To be clear, I don't care about only 20% off, as I'm not gonna buy any at all. Wait, I just made my point, didn't I?! The ships are currently simply not worth buying any more. In that context, sure, 20% is probably too little if they want to ditch them. But someone who not already has one may perhaps get a collector's item out of it, like a T1 Connie.
I was actually thinking last night that they should probably lower the cost of ships by 20% or so since there's a new tier of ships incoming. Then I realised they will probably simply ask more cash for the T6 ships :P. Any idea what the pricing of the T6 ships is going to be?
About the sale; I'm not overly enthusiastic about it. After all, we'll have to pay even more money to upgrade the C-store T5 ships so I assume that's why people are asking for a bigger discount.
And that's who Cryptic is trolling with their "sales" before it becomes obvious even to the most casual of players that these ships are obsolete and not even worth 20% off.
At least with the lobi ship sale the paltry upgrade was free.
You can say it's "just business" but it sure is damned unethical.
The sheer amount of misinformation that's been spread about T5-U vs. T6...a generation that reads headlines instead of articles...there's little doubt why things are the way they are.
I am well aware. T6 now are better than T5-U. T6 Fleet will be the difference between current T4 ships and Lockbox ships now. If you are considering T5-U for end game and think it will, in 2 months compare in even the slightest to T6 Fleet, then the only misinformed individual is you. Buy T6 now because it will easily outperform the old ships (outside of a few new lockbox ships) and will provide an account wide unlock plus a fleet upgrade discount in the near future.
Nothing you said after that suggests you are aware in the slightest...and I'm not going to quote the rest, because that nonsense has been repeated enough on the forums.
So why do you think they released buffs to several fed t5 ships on tribble just a couple days ago? Just to make sure people would buy those fed ships during this sale. Guess sales of the Vesta pack were really lagging of late and hence why it got it's very unnecessary buffs....
I am well aware. T6 now are better than T5-U. T6 Fleet will be the difference between current T4 ships and Lockbox ships now. If you are considering T5-U for end game and think it will, in 2 months compare in even the slightest to T6 Fleet, then the only misinformed individual is you. Buy T6 now because it will easily outperform the old ships (outside of a few new lockbox ships) and will provide an account wide unlock plus a fleet upgrade discount in the near future.
And you know all this how? Fleet T6 do not yet exist, so this is all speculation...
This is the very sort of misinformation Virusdancer was referring to I would wager, and yet, here you are suggesting he is the one misinformed...
So why do you think they released buffs to several fed t5 ships on tribble just a couple days ago? Just to make sure people would buy those fed ships during this sale. Guess sales of the Vesta pack were really lagging of late and hence why it got it's very unnecessary buffs....
I think your tin-foil hat is slipping... Have you considered this was done for balancing purposes at T5U level?
I am well aware. T6 now are better than T5-U. T6 Fleet will be the difference between current T4 ships and Lockbox ships now. If you are considering T5-U for end game and think it will, in 2 months compare in even the slightest to T6 Fleet, then the only misinformed individual is you. Buy T6 now because it will easily outperform the old ships (outside of a few new lockbox ships) and will provide an account wide unlock plus a fleet upgrade discount in the near future.
..and this why so many are upset. Our T5 ships--specifically the hull shapes--will become obsolete with the Delta Rising expansion. Sales are great! If what I'm buying is relevant. I think in this sale the only thing relevant are the consoles you get with the ships (and are they worth that amount of money?).
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But, I agree that I would be nice if there was a larger discount since upgrading a T5 starship is not easy or cheap.
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Notable missions: Apex [AEI], Gemini [SSF], Trident [AEI], Evolution's Smile [SSF], Transcendence
Looking for something new to play? I've started building Foundry missions again in visual novel form!
I have an idea for what Season 11 should be; Season 11: The Big Bug Fix.
I have not been able to read my bug tickets in over a year, not even the tickets about not being able to see my tickets.
I find the drama of your signature proof of your immaturity, this means you, DR whiners.
They nerfed the Borg STF's Dil income ... , so they did their "good deed" which must therefore be rewarded . :cool:
lol
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The fact that people are complaining about a ship sale really does drive home the fact that, for some still completely indeterminable reason, the forums are overrun with people all too quick to jump onto the 'I Hate Cryptic!' bandwagon, yet apparently insist on playing STO anyway...
Quick, better grab your torches and pitchforks, lest you be late joining in on the lynching!
Get that. A measly 800 zen unlocks the legendary Plasmonic Leech for all of your KDF captains? Sounds like one heck of a bargain. This is especially true if you have a power-starved KDF-aligned Romulan.
Same as the hit we just took on the maps formerly know as eSTF?
Or there's a logic to it. For one, a sale now makes it less likely there'll be a sale soon after DR launches (I'll be surprised if we get the usual Black Friday sale now). Two, its kinda insulting to receive a 'gift' that looks like a cynical attempt to squeeze just a few extra bucks out of people by trying to encourage impulse-buying of something that'll be second-rate in just 10 days. Three, some people were benefiting from relative increase in the value of their dil, and this throws a wrench in that. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean some reasons aren't totally valid, but you might know that if you weren't too quick to jump onto the 'I Hate Forumgoers!' bandwagon.
I think a -20% ship sale including all ships is a good sale indeed. It's definitely a better deal if you don't want to consider the scope of changes that are about to occur, some of which still have not been given specific details yet. There's a lot of factors involved when purchasing a ship for whatever price & those factors are only going to be expanded with higher priced ships, more ships, more cost to upgrade many current ships, & how utilized will the ship &/or console be for a duration of playing.
As always, to each their own to weigh the value of whether or not to take advantage of this sale or any other sale.
I still think it was improper marketing tactics to begin selling the Operations pack without giving potential buyers all the details of that pack, but some of us players bought it anyways, so again to each their own to decide.
I have plenty of Zen saved-up for their sales, but after they hosed me on an incident after the Dilithium Store closure my days of spending anymore real money is over.
After all, I can only pilot one starship at a time.
Defending The Galaxy By Breaking One Starfleet Regulation After The Next.
The more inane nonsense I read like this, yes, the quicker I am to jump onto the 'I hate Forumgoers' bandwagon...
If someone cannot stop themselves from buying, what you decry as soon to be second rate ships, then that's no one's fault but the person handing over their wallet...
But, then again, I'm mistaken there aren't I? In this day and age people are never responsible for their own actions...
Anyone else considered the silver lining here? By buying those T5 at 20% off, you will be effectively saving yourself the difference of a T5U upgrade...
If there was still a T5 ship people wanted, now would be the time to buy it and then put the discount toward upgrading it come Delta Rising...
But no, let's all just attack Cryptic for actually putting **** on sale, as those players who are not completely cynical and jaded, might actually spend some money!
I for one am outraged. The sale should be 100% off all ships including T6!
The sheer amount of misinformation that's been spread about T5-U vs. T6...a generation that reads headlines instead of articles...there's little doubt why things are the way they are.
Or... it could just be T5 C-Store ships will be TRIBBLE after DR (especially since they already kinda were). To be clear, I don't care about only 20% off, as I'm not gonna buy any at all. Wait, I just made my point, didn't I?! The ships are currently simply not worth buying any more. In that context, sure, 20% is probably too little if they want to ditch them. But someone who not already has one may perhaps get a collector's item out of it, like a T1 Connie.
About the sale; I'm not overly enthusiastic about it. After all, we'll have to pay even more money to upgrade the C-store T5 ships so I assume that's why people are asking for a bigger discount.
And that's who Cryptic is trolling with their "sales" before it becomes obvious even to the most casual of players that these ships are obsolete and not even worth 20% off.
At least with the lobi ship sale the paltry upgrade was free.
You can say it's "just business" but it sure is damned unethical.
I am well aware. T6 now are better than T5-U. T6 Fleet will be the difference between current T4 ships and Lockbox ships now. If you are considering T5-U for end game and think it will, in 2 months compare in even the slightest to T6 Fleet, then the only misinformed individual is you. Buy T6 now because it will easily outperform the old ships (outside of a few new lockbox ships) and will provide an account wide unlock plus a fleet upgrade discount in the near future.
Nothing you said after that suggests you are aware in the slightest...and I'm not going to quote the rest, because that nonsense has been repeated enough on the forums.
And you know all this how? Fleet T6 do not yet exist, so this is all speculation...
This is the very sort of misinformation Virusdancer was referring to I would wager, and yet, here you are suggesting he is the one misinformed...
I think your tin-foil hat is slipping... Have you considered this was done for balancing purposes at T5U level?
..and this why so many are upset. Our T5 ships--specifically the hull shapes--will become obsolete with the Delta Rising expansion. Sales are great! If what I'm buying is relevant. I think in this sale the only thing relevant are the consoles you get with the ships (and are they worth that amount of money?).
How do hull shapes become obsolete?