Well I kinda think the title says it all.. I was wondering if Lifetime Members will get a free T6 Ship per character that meets the level requirements... I haven't seen anything confirming nor denying that. But if the answer is no you don't then that will need to change...
LTS get a free T5U Upgrade for their Chimera/Fleet Chimera.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
The devs have admitted as much by intentionally nerfing the "upgrade" by at least 8%. It's a double dipping scam by PWE (free "upgrades" excepted of course).
The devs have admitted as much by intentionally nerfing the "upgrade" by at least 8%. It's a double dipping scam by PWE (free "upgrades" excepted of course).
All that bile you carry around with you is going to make your liver fail. Just saying.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Well I kinda think the title says it all.. I was wondering if Lifetime Members will get a free T6 Ship per character that meets the level requirements... I haven't seen anything confirming nor denying that. But if the answer is no you don't then that will need to change...
I dont have a clue why they would do that. Giving a free T6 to lifemembers.. i mean. Some of you really love to imagine things lol.
Lifetime members get 500 free Zen a month that ought to add up to a free T6 ship after, oh, six months or so.
People constantly forget that. You get 6,000 Zen a year to do whatever you want with. Buy a ship, buy a ship pack, blow it all on Keys, whatever. It is 6,000 Zen worth of free perks a year.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Captain Jean-Luc Picard: "We think we've come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches, it's all ancient history. Then - before you can blink an eye - suddenly it threatens to start all over again."
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Quite frankly subscribers period should get a free T6 ship of choice, as its now a brand new Tier.
And for every single preceeding tier without exception players have gotten free ships.
Considering the amount of free ships given away for free with LoR, that were free and didn't cost anything because they were free
This isn't just a completely reasonable idea but also brings up the question of how everyone on the forum seems to have socially conditioned amneisa.
If it's something negative about the game or the developement, it doesn't exist !!!11
I find it hilarious they think people are dumb enough to rebuy all the stuff they already bought, without developers adding a single animation or the slightest amount of work to it.
I still use borg weapons from before reputation systems eSTF drops.
Repuation system makes me laugh, so does crafting but upgrading takes the cake no doubt.
Of course I could be totally wrong and something in expansion 2 is going to have the same value of the 8 free ships from LoR, the free outfits, playable races and entirely new ship animations given away for free...
LOR gave free ships because the added a new race. Which shouldn't even count as free ships because everyone else got free ships from level 1-40. Did anyone get a free lvl 50 ship?
Your pain runs deep.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
Considering the amount of free ships given away for free with LoR, that were free and didn't cost anything because they were free
This isn't just a completely reasonable idea but also brings up the question of how everyone on the forum seems to have socially conditioned amneisa.
If it's something negative about the game or the developement, it doesn't exist !!!11
I find it hilarious they think people are dumb enough to rebuy all the stuff they already bought, without developers adding a single animation or the slightest amount of work to it.
I still use borg weapons from before reputation systems eSTF drops.
Repuation system makes me laugh, so does crafting but upgrading takes the cake no doubt.
Of course I could be totally wrong and something in expansion 2 is going to have the same value of the 8 free ships from LoR, the free outfits, playable races and entirely new ship animations given away for free...
but I doubt it
The Reputation system not all laughable as you say. Sure some of the sets aren't what they all could be. I find most of the sets lacking features I need. It's a mix bag of gear from Deflector, Impulse, Warp Core, Shields and Consoles. That's how I am using most of the sets. Some sets just see weaker compare to the missions sets.
I am sure your borg weapons seem fine for now. This game is changing so much it's going be a lot of (grind) work to keep up with the changes.
Crafting (aka Retrofit) once they throw this in no turning it around to what you had prior. Still the way the clock is counting down seems like they could have given us 4 min grace period for free. Other online games do that for instant finish. But only at 4 min mark.
All the ships seems to be in the same type of class base on what type of ship they are. The only differences is the skin and some minor programming changes. If you want to get a ship that others don't have they should equipment this was Mark 13/14 Very Rare Purple. In the last live-stream I didn't see that.
On the Risan Luxury Cruiser (aka space battleship destroyer) the weapons for 4/4 fore/aft can manage 6/6 slots. I didn't notice that where the other Fed ships max out at 5/5 slots. Other online games use a lot of weapons slots here they don't seem to do that just limits on the weapons slots.. We all have more weapons we can use on our ships. I could use the 2 extra slots in weapons. So now if I need a stronger torpedo or heavy turret have to drop them in manually along with my current weapons payloads.
I just say, make it simple, but make it fun to play!
something like a t6 vet ship reward for 1.5k days? its early days yet to consider such a thing, lets see what they have in store first over the months before considering if such a thing is needed.
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
They already have your money. There is no incentive to give you anything.
Have it, and spent it. Basic business sense would say you need to encourage more people to buy the product, not just rely on past sales.
Right now I wouldn't buy lifetime simply because there aren't enough perks I want. I know I'll continue spending on other Zen products so why waste money on lifetime. Now if there were more freebies such as a free or discount T6 ship, infinity free T5U tokens, exclusive intel officers and the like, then maybe I'd go for it.
For me, there also seems to be a bit of a flaw with the packs. Do I want a dozen ships and a few tiny extras? I'll only end up using one or two of them and would i pay zen for titles? Would be better to have more variety in the high class items and make the extras something you'd pay for on its own.
LTS get a free T5U Upgrade for their Chimera/Fleet Chimera.
The Fleet LTS/Vet ship is gonna be awesome in Delta. It has the perfect boff layout. With Delta its going to have 4 Engineering consoles, 2 Sci consoles and 5 Tactical consoles. Plus its going to get the escort buffs. That alone is reason enough for people to consider purchaseing a Lifetime sub.
Or up the monthly stipend to be equal in dilithium value.
As in:
8.000 dil a day * 30 days = 240.000 dilith a month. That in zen is 240.000 / 180 = 1333 zen a month.
Lets say we up the monthly stipend to 1000 and we call it case closed.
Because $60.00 a year in free stuff is not enough for people? Seriously?
I paid $240.00 for my LTS. I have gotten 34 Stipends at this point for $170.00 worth of free C-Store items. In 14 more months I will have gotten an equal amount of Stipend to what I paid for my LTS. Every month after that Cryptic will be paying me to play rather then me ever paying them. The 500 is more then enough.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
I've read the news. So they want you to run the new elite PvEs in T6/T5Us. But you are not restricted to just those ships. So I am saying we can run new elite mode in the "not obsolete" T5s. We may fail the mission easily by the way they make it sound, but there is nothing restricting us from doing.
Well I kinda think the title says it all.. I was wondering if Lifetime Members will get a free T6 Ship per character that meets the level requirements... I haven't seen anything confirming nor denying that. But if the answer is no you don't then that will need to change...
no there is no free T6 ship for Lifetime Members or for anyone else and nor do we require that.
we all got what we paid for in our Lifetime package as advertised, I do not expect anything new to be added, so the answer is no you don't get a free T6 Ship per character and that does not need to change.
if the devs choose to add any extras to entice new buyers that is entirely up to them but I don't expect or demand anything, it would be totally uncouth to do so.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Because $60.00 a year in free stuff is not enough for people? Seriously?
I paid $240.00 for my LTS. I have gotten 34 Stipends at this point for $170.00 worth of free C-Store items. In 14 more months I will have gotten an equal amount of Stipend to what I paid for my LTS. Every month after that Cryptic will be paying me to play rather then me ever paying them. The 500 is more then enough.
Don't forget the additional character slot, the BOFF slots, the increased inventory as well as bank space, the account bank/account bank slots, the respec tokens, Foundry creation access/Foundry slots, Veteran Rewards...
It doesn't take long for somebody that bought a LTS to become a loss for Cryptic.
A other wish full thinking thread this most be the 8th thread were people have asked about a free T6 ship.
They wont your money to be spent on the new ships so they wont be giving away the new c-store shinies will they.
I've read the news. So they want you to run the new elite PvEs in T6/T5Us. But you are not restricted to just those ships. So I am saying we can run new elite mode in the "not obsolete" T5s. We may fail the mission easily by the way they make it sound, but there is nothing restricting us from doing.
Let me rephrase:
I only have enough to upgrade one ship maybe. And it'll be a fleet ship. that only one of my three toons have. Some of us are not as lucky. But P2W or not, we WILL be going into and bombing elite PvEs! We cannot be stopped!
Quite frankly subscribers period should get a free T6 ship of choice, as its now a brand new Tier.
And for every single preceeding tier without exception players have gotten free ships.
every tier did not get a free ship, you never got a free one at lv50 plus you could not choose any ship you only had a few you could choose from, also that wasn't just for subscribers but all players.
Considering the amount of free ships given away for free with LoR, that were free and didn't cost anything because they were free
This isn't just a completely reasonable idea but also brings up the question of how everyone on the forum seems to have socially conditioned amneisa.
If it's something negative about the game or the developement, it doesn't exist !!!11
I find it hilarious they think people are dumb enough to rebuy all the stuff they already bought, without developers adding a single animation or the slightest amount of work to it.
I still use borg weapons from before reputation systems eSTF drops.
Repuation system makes me laugh, so does crafting but upgrading takes the cake no doubt.
Of course I could be totally wrong and something in expansion 2 is going to have the same value of the 8 free ships from LoR, the free outfits, playable races and entirely new ship animations given away for free...
but I doubt it
LoR was totally different, for a start it was a new faction so free ships had to be given to bring it in line with other factions, secondly you only got the ships if you created a romulan character, there were many players who never played roms and never got the ships or any of the romulan content or uniforms.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Let me rephrase:
I only have enough to upgrade one ship maybe. And it'll be a fleet ship. that only one of my three toons have. Some of us are not as lucky. But P2W or not, we WILL be going into and bombing elite PvEs! We cannot be stopped!
are you saying you are going into the elite to purposefully fail it?
Your pain runs deep.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
The devs have admitted as much by intentionally nerfing the "upgrade" by at least 8%. It's a double dipping scam by PWE (free "upgrades" excepted of course).
are you saying you are going into the elite to purposefully fail it?
Several folks out there have said they're going to do that as a form of protest...it's one of the reasons that several folks have started threads asking if there is going to be any sort of gating for the L60s.
are you saying you are going into the elite to purposefully fail it?
I assume his intent will be the same as mine: to go into an Elite STF at level 60 in a T5U Fleet ship loaded with Purple Mk XII Gear and see just how close I can come to completing it.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Because $60.00 a year in free stuff is not enough for people? Seriously?
It's not free, it is part of the package. It is more of a discount that is tied into Zen. Upping the stipend is basically upping the discount, making membership cheaper. That is one way to up the number of people taking it, the other is to make the other content better. A few extra slots doesn't do it for me as I don't need it. In the end, the choice of whether or not you go for it would be on a calculation of
* Price minus zen stipend minus independent zen value of items you'd buy otherwise then divided by the number of exclusive items you're interested in.
If the cost is low or in positive, then you're cashing in. If it is in negative, then it's not for you. To increase the numbers of people taking up membership, you need to get it into positive for more and more people and once they're subscribed, hope they stick with it year on year increasing your profit on that account.
got my lts around 18 months ago just before LoR launched, 500 zen is 5 pounds so 5x12 = 60. 5 x 6 = 30 and so thats 90 pounds there and i bought the lts for 156 pounds, so all i will need is another half of year to repay the costs to 150 pounds. but as far as other things are concerned in value on the game like the QoL stuff, its already repaid as far as i am concerned and im reaping benefits from further stipend.
i got no reason to complain, i got what i paid for and im happy with it. i dont expect a free new ship for a vet reward or anything like this, if they add it, fine, if not then no big deal. i wonder why people look these things down and feel entitled to think it isnt enough just because they put some evil paper into it.
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
It's not free, it is part of the package. It is more of a discount that is tied into Zen. Upping the stipend is basically upping the discount, making membership cheaper. That is one way to up the number of people taking it, the other is to make the other content better. A few extra slots doesn't do it for me as I don't need it. In the end, the choice of whether or not you go for it would be on a calculation of
* Price minus zen stipend minus independent zen value of items you'd buy otherwise then divided by the number of exclusive items you're interested in.
If the cost is low or in positive, then you're cashing in. If it is in negative, then it's not for you. To increase the numbers of people taking up membership, you need to get it into positive for more and more people and once they're subscribed, hope they stick with it year on year increasing your profit on that account.
I am not going to get into an entitlement debate. I have seen posts from people on this forum who feel spending $5.00 a year on any game is too much money and that everything should be free to them. I have seen posts from other people who have no problem dropping hundreds of dollars a year on the game. There is no one answer that encompasses everyone's subjective opinion.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
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The devs have admitted as much by intentionally nerfing the "upgrade" by at least 8%. It's a double dipping scam by PWE (free "upgrades" excepted of course).
I dont have a clue why they would do that. Giving a free T6 to lifemembers.. i mean. Some of you really love to imagine things lol.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
And for every single preceeding tier without exception players have gotten free ships.
This isn't just a completely reasonable idea but also brings up the question of how everyone on the forum seems to have socially conditioned amneisa.
If it's something negative about the game or the developement, it doesn't exist !!!11
I find it hilarious they think people are dumb enough to rebuy all the stuff they already bought, without developers adding a single animation or the slightest amount of work to it.
I still use borg weapons from before reputation systems eSTF drops.
Repuation system makes me laugh, so does crafting but upgrading takes the cake no doubt.
Of course I could be totally wrong and something in expansion 2 is going to have the same value of the 8 free ships from LoR, the free outfits, playable races and entirely new ship animations given away for free...
but I doubt it
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
The Reputation system not all laughable as you say. Sure some of the sets aren't what they all could be. I find most of the sets lacking features I need. It's a mix bag of gear from Deflector, Impulse, Warp Core, Shields and Consoles. That's how I am using most of the sets. Some sets just see weaker compare to the missions sets.
I am sure your borg weapons seem fine for now. This game is changing so much it's going be a lot of (grind) work to keep up with the changes.
Crafting (aka Retrofit) once they throw this in no turning it around to what you had prior. Still the way the clock is counting down seems like they could have given us 4 min grace period for free. Other online games do that for instant finish. But only at 4 min mark.
All the ships seems to be in the same type of class base on what type of ship they are. The only differences is the skin and some minor programming changes. If you want to get a ship that others don't have they should equipment this was Mark 13/14 Very Rare Purple. In the last live-stream I didn't see that.
On the Risan Luxury Cruiser (aka space battleship destroyer) the weapons for 4/4 fore/aft can manage 6/6 slots. I didn't notice that where the other Fed ships max out at 5/5 slots. Other online games use a lot of weapons slots here they don't seem to do that just limits on the weapons slots.. We all have more weapons we can use on our ships. I could use the 2 extra slots in weapons. So now if I need a stronger torpedo or heavy turret have to drop them in manually along with my current weapons payloads.
I just say, make it simple, but make it fun to play!
Time will only tell!
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Have it, and spent it. Basic business sense would say you need to encourage more people to buy the product, not just rely on past sales.
Right now I wouldn't buy lifetime simply because there aren't enough perks I want. I know I'll continue spending on other Zen products so why waste money on lifetime. Now if there were more freebies such as a free or discount T6 ship, infinity free T5U tokens, exclusive intel officers and the like, then maybe I'd go for it.
For me, there also seems to be a bit of a flaw with the packs. Do I want a dozen ships and a few tiny extras? I'll only end up using one or two of them and would i pay zen for titles? Would be better to have more variety in the high class items and make the extras something you'd pay for on its own.
The Fleet LTS/Vet ship is gonna be awesome in Delta. It has the perfect boff layout. With Delta its going to have 4 Engineering consoles, 2 Sci consoles and 5 Tactical consoles. Plus its going to get the escort buffs. That alone is reason enough for people to consider purchaseing a Lifetime sub.
As in:
8.000 dil a day * 30 days = 240.000 dilith a month. That in zen is 240.000 / 180 = 1333 zen a month.
Lets say we up the monthly stipend to 1000 and we call it case closed.
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I paid $240.00 for my LTS. I have gotten 34 Stipends at this point for $170.00 worth of free C-Store items. In 14 more months I will have gotten an equal amount of Stipend to what I paid for my LTS. Every month after that Cryptic will be paying me to play rather then me ever paying them. The 500 is more then enough.
no there is no free T6 ship for Lifetime Members or for anyone else and nor do we require that.
we all got what we paid for in our Lifetime package as advertised, I do not expect anything new to be added, so the answer is no you don't get a free T6 Ship per character and that does not need to change.
if the devs choose to add any extras to entice new buyers that is entirely up to them but I don't expect or demand anything, it would be totally uncouth to do so.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Don't forget the additional character slot, the BOFF slots, the increased inventory as well as bank space, the account bank/account bank slots, the respec tokens, Foundry creation access/Foundry slots, Veteran Rewards...
It doesn't take long for somebody that bought a LTS to become a loss for Cryptic.
They wont your money to be spent on the new ships so they wont be giving away the new c-store shinies will they.
Let me rephrase:
I only have enough to upgrade one ship maybe. And it'll be a fleet ship. that only one of my three toons have. Some of us are not as lucky. But P2W or not, we WILL be going into and bombing elite PvEs! We cannot be stopped!
every tier did not get a free ship, you never got a free one at lv50 plus you could not choose any ship you only had a few you could choose from, also that wasn't just for subscribers but all players.
LoR was totally different, for a start it was a new faction so free ships had to be given to bring it in line with other factions, secondly you only got the ships if you created a romulan character, there were many players who never played roms and never got the ships or any of the romulan content or uniforms.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
are you saying you are going into the elite to purposefully fail it?
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
What is this nonsense you speak of?
Several folks out there have said they're going to do that as a form of protest...it's one of the reasons that several folks have started threads asking if there is going to be any sort of gating for the L60s.
It's not free, it is part of the package. It is more of a discount that is tied into Zen. Upping the stipend is basically upping the discount, making membership cheaper. That is one way to up the number of people taking it, the other is to make the other content better. A few extra slots doesn't do it for me as I don't need it. In the end, the choice of whether or not you go for it would be on a calculation of
* Price minus zen stipend minus independent zen value of items you'd buy otherwise then divided by the number of exclusive items you're interested in.
If the cost is low or in positive, then you're cashing in. If it is in negative, then it's not for you. To increase the numbers of people taking up membership, you need to get it into positive for more and more people and once they're subscribed, hope they stick with it year on year increasing your profit on that account.
i got no reason to complain, i got what i paid for and im happy with it. i dont expect a free new ship for a vet reward or anything like this, if they add it, fine, if not then no big deal. i wonder why people look these things down and feel entitled to think it isnt enough just because they put some evil paper into it.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.