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drazursouthclaw
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Been here since just before year 2. Bought a life sub nearly immediately. Joined my first guild in this game. Fleet, whatever, you know what I mean.
Bought every major pack that ever came out, including Legacy of Romulus and Advanced Dyson - and most of the lone ships.
Do you see what I am saying? I bought practically EVERYTHING, supported you guys (Cryptic) all the way.
I will not be buying the latest ship pack. I am not happy with where this game is going at all. Why bother buying this and having to upgrade them to T7 eventually? When will that STOP? I have no idea what you guys are even thinking any more.
When the ship pack doesn't sell anywhere near as well as you're thinking (and it won't), I want you to remember that THIS was the point that *most of us stopped pretending that we were okay with your dodgy bait-and-switch ways*.
I won't be 'leaving', and no-one can have any of my stuff, because I have a life sub. But the time where I bought all the packs has well and truly finished, because you guys can't leave well enough alone (Seriously, you completely and utterly ruined my play experience with the last so-called patch - I would totally get a refund for my life sub if possible, just on general principle - I'm utterly and completely disgusted with your attitude towards your customers lately - you might remember us as 'those rubes that give you money').
I will always remain a fan (I've had some great times with this game), but I am no longer interested in financially supporting your continual goosing/reaming of my play experience.
Bought every major pack that ever came out, including Legacy of Romulus and Advanced Dyson - and most of the lone ships.
Do you see what I am saying? I bought practically EVERYTHING, supported you guys (Cryptic) all the way.
I will not be buying the latest ship pack. I am not happy with where this game is going at all. Why bother buying this and having to upgrade them to T7 eventually? When will that STOP? I have no idea what you guys are even thinking any more.
When the ship pack doesn't sell anywhere near as well as you're thinking (and it won't), I want you to remember that THIS was the point that *most of us stopped pretending that we were okay with your dodgy bait-and-switch ways*.
I won't be 'leaving', and no-one can have any of my stuff, because I have a life sub. But the time where I bought all the packs has well and truly finished, because you guys can't leave well enough alone (Seriously, you completely and utterly ruined my play experience with the last so-called patch - I would totally get a refund for my life sub if possible, just on general principle - I'm utterly and completely disgusted with your attitude towards your customers lately - you might remember us as 'those rubes that give you money').
I will always remain a fan (I've had some great times with this game), but I am no longer interested in financially supporting your continual goosing/reaming of my play experience.
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I agree with you ....
I wish they would charged 300$ for new update.
Cryptic attitude towards customers is all ways the same...
If supported Cryptic buying all toys in game it's plane to see they refuse to lesion to LT members.
if they had the game would never gone free to play.
and they dont even give you half their store away for free.
Nobody forced you to buy all those packs it was your choice. And when you did buy them you used them and had fun. Remember that your choice you were not forced to spend a dime on anything in the c-store.
Sur I was not to happy with season 9.5 but I never ever went on here with this kind of rant after all its a darn game
with enough demand for something the devs will most likely give in, this is plainly evident by the anti disco bomb device that has been introduced recently.
there is nothing making you upgrade your ships to T6, you don't even have to get the T5u upgrade if you don't want to, the devs have already stated that most of the new content will be perfectly fine with existing ships and gear, only the highest end stuff might be a bit of a challenge and be better suited to T5u & T6 ships but this will only likely be an elite stf type thing anyway.
granted I was a bit put out myself by the upgrade charge for c-store ships but I have now resigned myself to the fact that I will likely never upgrade them and will just run with the ones I can upgrade for free, problem solved.
stop making a mountain out of a molehill and keep on trekking.
cryptic will never charge for content, don't be so elitist as too suggest the ftp players should not enjoy this update.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
This. If you feel the need to spend hundreds of dollars on a free to play game nobody is to blame but you, since you decided that it's hundreds of dollars worth to you to play a little starship in a videogame when you had the choice to do the exact same thing for free. But that's just me, I'm from a different day and age. I paid some 50-60 bucks for a game and that was it, I had years of fun with those games and when they were expanded or succeeded I either bought the successor or decided not to do that. I did the same with STO - I bought a retail and a subscription. The moment the game went F2P I stopped spending money and it never occured to me how people can spend 300+ dollars on a video-game.
But the most important thing is that those spendings do not entitle you to anything. You paid to use in-game items earlier than others, you recieved that, it was worth the price to you but that advantage is now gone since new stuff is coming. You didn't already pay for that, you need to pay again if you want - like I said, I will never understand why anyone would do that. But that's how it works.
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so? I have been here since Beta. I have a life sub. am I any more special than you? nope. are you any more special than an F2p that joined last week? nope.
get over yourself, no one cares.
I do get that craptic do stuff that upsets people but a lvl rise is not on my list. How about ur lobi stuff not been leveless now or most of the new crafting being buged rep passives being changed or long ttime bugs not getting fixed.
That's what my brother keeps saying, it's also why he left the game.
I'm not sure there really is a place to address an issue if you have one. I need a couple things fixed but I dare not say anything openly.
"Where monsters rampage, I'm there to take them down! Where treasure glitters, I'm there to claim it! Where an enemy rises to face me, victory will be mine!" -Lina Inverse
You didn't have to pay anything to play and now here we are. There is only 1 person to blame
What's my position?
That people should know what they're screaming about!
(paraphrased from "The Newsroom)
Curse you Sisko!
Defending The Galaxy By Breaking One Starfleet Regulation After The Next.
When I first started playing STO (the day it went F2P) I looked at the then c-store, picked out all the account wide items I thought would be useful and directly purchased them. Ever since then I've supported them indirectly by using the dil exchange for ships, or other items from the now zen store.
The point is, unless you never use the dil exchange or buy those idiot magnet box keys...or any other z-store item that can be sold on the exchange for that matter, you are supporting them whether you like it or not.
This is something that many multinational companies encourage with 'loyalty cards' ect, they build a relationship of give and take with the customer (of course the business by its very definition needs to take more than it gives).
I don't think most of the people upset by delta rising feel they should be entitled to everything for free, but they do feel entitled to a little bit of give and take, and a little bit of loyalty from cryptic - for instance the levelless item debacle is a bit of a slap in the face to people paid for those item in good faith (they were described as levelless after all).
It would not cost Cryptic much to be a little more loyal towards its playbase, and many companies do this anyway, not out of a sense of kindness, but because it makes good business sense - happy customers are paying customers - who stick around and continue to buy your product.
I'm under no illusion that Cryptic/PWE are here to be our friends, they are a business and out to make money, pure and simple - however, even from a business point of view, it would make sense to keep your customers happy - in particular, rewarding those who have supported them with large and/or continuous purchases over the years. Customers who feel 'burnt' are far less likely to make more purchases in the future.
But that's just me, many businesses do not follow these kind of rules, Cryptic/PWE most probably feel they make enough money that they don't need to worry about customer satisfaction.
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Ignore the trolls, keep complaining all you want, it actually does work when enough are doing it. Publically.
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"The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it."
-Michelangelo
Your type of comment never ceases to amaze me . So yea that is the other side of a coin. You like a product you by it you don't like it you don't .
"being a customer" doesn't give you any "rights" of any kind if you read the tos you would understand that .
You can give suggestions but thats all they are suggestion if the devs decide not to act on them that is fine becase IT"S THEIR GAME.
I am also a LifeTime subscriber and have spent my share of money here . Am I 100% happy no if i had to quantify it i would say i'm probably somewhere in the 80% range . As long as it does not drop below 50 percent i ll keep playing.
If i make a suggestion and they don't take it fine . I am not going to jump up and down and throw a tantrum "becasuse im a customer and they HAVE to listen to me because i'm the king of the universe"
Actually no. OP is a "whale" and Cryptic's primary audience. If they TRIBBLE off more like him then the game's going to take a financial hit.
1) TOS is not a legally binding contract, and any courts outside the US (which is biased in favour of corporations 9 times out of 10, nor do they have a consumer protection agency apart from the pitiful BBB) dismiss any attempts to reference TOS in cases pertaining to software.
2) In the event of a company behaving unethically, as PWE is now, customers not only have a right to, but should, speak up.
3) Whether or not his complaining is valid or not; (in this case it is) pratty apologism on behalf of the company is bad for everyone, including you, even if you don't agree. If anyone do not have the right to act as they are, it is you, for trying to push your beliefs unto others. You are not entitled to agreement. He is entitled to complain. The end.
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"The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it."
-Michelangelo
The scumbaggery some people illicit on here is insane, because people choose to spend 300 or more dollars on the game is not really the problem I don't understand why you feel it's wrong for someone to spend money on a game they enjoy and I could never understand on these forms why some people act as though it is a badge of honor for them to have not spent any money on STO but yet they will be the ones crying when STO closes shop that we have no more Star Trek mmo to play I know people who have spent hundreds if not thousands on this game already me being one of them I'm not ashamed to say it I spent my money I had the money to spend I enjoyed it and there it is but for you to imply that there's something wrongwith them because they spend over a certain amount of money on a game is just ........well lucky for us we have have mods on here because I can't really say what I really want to say.... But I will say it begins with a D
He paid for a hamburger and he's entitled to the hamburger he bought. He has already received it. He's not entitled to anything more than that, legally or ethically. Sorry.
I'd say he payed for a game that was in the state that it was when he payed...
He got that... And more, since they updated the game, and added new content for free.
If simple voicing of my personal point of view about the matteroffends you then that cannot be helped I guess. But my intention was not to be rude, I merely thought I could voice some thoughts on the matter while discussing it. Though this was not the point of my posting, I clearly said that it's okay if someone thinks that STOs gaming experience is worth hundreds and thousands of dollars but that still doesn't entitle anyone to anything. My point was that the OP "used up" all the items he or she paid for. New items were not a part of that deal. Mind you, there is quite a lot to discuss on T6 and Cryptics additions to the game, the OP however asked why he or she has to pay again after spending a lot of money, at least this is what I understand.
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Progress, humans will always hate it. I welcome the new diversity and ships, I'll have fun smashing the ones that are half assed built, and look forward to building some new play styles myself. The STO community has really shown their maturity level the past few weeks. You all used to be my favorite gaming community.....
Not ALL MMOs operate that way...Only Linear Theme Park MMOs. This one just can't make up its mind which one it is, Linear TP or Sandbox
I played SWG from month 8 to sunset and my gear stayed pretty much the same through out each phse (pre0cu, cu, NGE) only when they released those 3 updates. Of course they introduced new items but it was a shell then crafted into a better version. I played TOR, most of my guildees from both games called it the Kids version of SW, because it was linear and held every ones hands. And like you said there was new gear for each expansion, in other words a perpetual grind. That is why we left that game.
If the brain trust looked at this game, like the ships are an appearance and people paid to upgrade their stats and kept the appearance, guess what...a much happier player base.
Ohh but Anemarie30 you are special! Soooooo very special :P
my apologies dear sir ....wont you share some kanar with me?
I agree on the last part... Once Cryptic goes down, we should get stand alone servers for our game...
Well, I disagree, as do many multinational corporations who feel rewarding customer loyalty makes good business sense.
But I appreciate that you are entitled to your opinion