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darlexa
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as part of getting access to federation or kdf central star maps, players should get access to the planets and academies. coupled with additional duty officer assignments and maybe diplomatic dailies, it would be an interesting item for players to have.
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Of course, Fed and KDF players can't access the command area of New Romulus and a similar thing can apply to Fed/KDF players visiting each other's homes. For example, KDF players can visit any part of ESD, except the OPS/Command area (the part with Admiral Quinn's Office). A similar thing can be implemented for Fed players visiting Qo'nos.
That way we can act like allies, without giving access to critical areas.
There's been nothing further in the game to imply that they are allies yet. No formal end to the war, no resigning of the Khitomer Accords, nothing beyond a ceasefire.
Bad idea ... very bad idea ... Let's keep the factions, and their "homeworlds" separate. (well, excepting New Rom of course, but then Romulans are a fRaction not a faction, so that doesn't count I guess)
Sector permissions for various DoFF missions are fine though.
Qo'nos is such a peaceful place, you can ask a question and people will give you an answer and sound advice rather than calling you a Noob and telling you to jump out an Airlock.
Compared to ESD or DS9 it's the best Hub in the game. If the Federation was allowed there the place would be as awful and toxic as the Other Fed populated Hubs.
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or you could maybe get off your fed and invest a bit of effort in a kdf toon instead?
ceasefire or not, do you really think the inhabitants of qonos would be happy to have feds parading about the first city? would you feel cool to wander the streets of mogadishu or baghdad simply because there isnt a current war with the government of the day? its more likely the fed would get pulled into an alley and have their throat cut by an orion or a nausicaan.
i know that most feds tend to view sto as 'federation online' and consider the kdf ancillaries and thus can be quite apathetic about factional relations. but many in the kdf harbour something closer to contempt for the federation (due to development bias, perceived noobishness, etc). in fact, the last time this topic was suggested (last week) many kdf were pretty insistent that any feddies on qonos would need to be targetable (and thus killable) for it to even be a consideration.
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and what do esd and drozana have in common? feds.
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this would work for me. the level 50 requirement could be added onto the existing marauder/diplomacy grades. could even have so that surface tension gives the needed access. frankly, even canon has the kdf rather loose in the idea of conflict or peace with the federation. I figure they like a good fight more than all the big picture stuff more than anything else.
if reality existed, having the occasional fed in the challenge pit would be a hoot for the bulk of them.
as for the fed players being a problem, I don't think it washes too well since those same players could have a kdf toon. I think eventually, there should be the ability to have multi faction fleets. I am part of a defacto one now, we use a cross faction chat channel to help keep the two sides linked.
I think another place besides operations areas to be banned could be travel to the academies.
for ESD, those sentries could move to block access and then you get and invisible wall.
It should require high level Diplomacy , 3 or 4
And Respective faction security Officers will escort you for the duration of the visit. And perhaps as darlexa suggested you should be blocked from visiting secure areas
I personally think it should require max diplomacy, and perhaps require completion of the surface tension mission. in that mission, the player protects quo'nos after fighting at ESD. a minor tweak would allow it be story driven.
I reckon if you want to play ambassador you should have to wear the Diplomatics corps uniform when your visiting
But thats just me, and I reckon that would be unpopular were it to be made part of the game
kinda shooting yourself in the foot there, you say all feds are bad yet how would you know what's going on at ESD unless you, yourself have a fed character. I'm probably the only person on the game that only has 1 character, everyone else or at least most people have a character for each faction, class, and species in both male and female so the poor quality of the zone chat has nothing to do with any one faction.
i did not say all feds are bad. but to pretend that esd and qonos are the same and there is zero difference between the fed and kdf playerbase is delusional.
if you dont want to roll a kdf, then stay off qonos. its really that simple. you have been given everything else so now you feds actually want to claim qonos itself? **** off.
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no. I want it for both. kdf to earth and other worlds nearby, and feds to quo'nos and other worlds nearby.
but i belive that most of us on KDF side dont want to go to ESD unless we can kill there. i know i dont want to go near it.
and i know esd used to be a horrible place. back before LoR we were forced to create a fed toon before were even allowed to make a KDF toon. so those that have been around for some time know how it was not by choice but we were forced there. yet another source of resentment.
I would like to leave the Star Fleet Academy and head over to the New San Francisco.
Time will only tell!
if you want to go to qonos you must be a kdf aligned captain... There is no reason for a fed (kdf) to go to qonos (ESD) because there is no alliance, just minimal diplomatic relationship.
Playing STO spamming FAW is like playing chess using always the computer's suggested moves
that would be fun, to have the academy expanded a bit atr least.
that's the idea, high level diplomatic plus completion of certain missions would be a must.
As pointed out previously, at the end of Surface Tension there is a cease-fire. Cease-fire does not automatically mean there is a peace treaty; Starfleet and the KDF are not suddenly hugging each other. Case in point, during the Vietnam War there was a cease-fire between North Vietnam and South Vietnam so that the Paris Accord in 1973 could take place to see if there is any way to agree to the end of all hostilities and end the war peacefully. About two later North Vietnam captured Hanoi, the capital of South Vietnam. From that day forward South Vietnam ceased to exist.
As for the idea of separate instances where only players of the opposing faction have completed Surface Tensions can visit each others' home worlds, that would be a waste of resources for Cryptic. I am pretty sure setting up more instances in the servers will simply take up processing power that could be used for other things that would actually make more sense and add value to the game.
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I am fine with that as long as there is a single player mission that requires the captain to visit the "homeworld" of the opposing factions.
perhaps a sector daily? only max diplo level officers and those granted temporary access can enter the sector anyways. maybe a collection of missions that can be randomly selected?
that temporary grant might be an issue, but a simple interlock restrict to max diplo level would probably take care of that.
lay off the federation players, everyone is new at some point, just because you're more experienced now doesn't make you allowed to inslt newer players! :mad: