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jmaster29
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I'm kinda confused. I've been absent, and will there be an option to upgrade our current, bought, T5 ships? If not, then ALL of the money that I've spent on this game, will become obsolete. ALL OF IT. If yes, then move on.
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Only "better"... Make things "go".
Fleet ships were okay, as it was a straight up extra console slot and stat update for one module. These new T6 ships will be different based on current info..
I think they said specifically that Ship-upgrades wasn't related to crafting.
However, there was a leaked command that indicated that we would be able to sort-of-craft-upgrade our gear.
Only time will tell I suppose.
Actually, it would make more sense to allow us as players to upgrade the ships via our Captain. Whatever ship you pilot could evolve with the player toon. Would open up the market for buying any ship we want.
Would also find a larger variety of ships to fight alongside instead of the same old high end only ships.
Do you use the same computer to play STO today that you used 10 years ago? No matter how much you upgrade a Celeron-based PC from 2004, it won't play STO very well--if at all. Would you continue to argue that you should still be able to use that PC to play STO because of what you spent to obtain or upgrade it?
Why should the future be constrained by your past expenditures?
Newsflash (and this should be idiotically obvious and not require this response): T5 ships are digital, not physical... They can upgrade them as much as they want to... They just don't want to.
my speculation: T6 ships ahve some sort of extra "button" to klick (like raiders have a bonus to attacks from behind)
and that the actual upgrade compared to T5.5 (fleet ships) is minimal or even non existing.
T6 will probably NOT have 13 or more boff slots or 11 or more console slots...however, they will have some ship specific ability + all benefits of current T5.5. In other words, they are something along the line of romulan warbirds, galaxy dread (phaser lance build in) or the patrol escort refit with an additional weapon. Those ships are by todays standards already above T5.5 anyway and T6 will probably be somewhere in that category.
So you're saying that they will be warbirds?
However, I also have a feeling I know what we'll be doing this Winter and next summer - Breen and Risian upgrades! Which I do look forward to very much. I believe in my Satellite of Love!
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
i can't do the reading for you, sry. But the answer to your question is hidden in the text already.
It was stated that T6 is a completely new class of ship...like warbirds are a different class of ships. (singularity powers, singularity core, battle cloak)
I speculate that T6 ships are T5.5 ships with one or more gimmick abilities build in, and the upgrade for older ships consist in adding a certain ability to them. Probably not as cool as the ones from the new T6 ships, but competitive.
I hope that it is one or more "slots" for ship specific consoles, so that you don't need to compromise with other consoles in your setup.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
You should know cryptic better.. by now , seriously.
Keep an open mind, even if you fear the worst, remember to always hope for the best!
"Where monsters rampage, I'm there to take them down! Where treasure glitters, I'm there to claim it! Where an enemy rises to face me, victory will be mine!" -Lina Inverse
who cares??? well, obviously you dont, since you must be a rich person.
Well, this is funny. I had an open mind for the first year i was playing STO and i didnt know how exactly cryptic does things. But now that i know. Not anymore... everybody has a limit, i guess im more reasonable that other people lol. I know exactly how cryptic thinks and how cryptic makes things, and i dont expect them to do something healthy for the game, sadly. 2 year ago, sure, i will say give em a chance, but now?? you must be crazy if you keep having hopes on em, seriously.
This is an incredibly stupid way of thinking about digital items. A digital item can be modified at any time, and Cryptic could just update all fleet / lockbox ships and gear. But they won't. They want more money. And I understand that games take money to run, but I'm reeling from a triple-whammy of the removal of hourly bonuses, the removal of enjoyable PvE content, and the news that all the things that I have grinded for are about to suck.
Personally, I've uninstalled the game until I see some actual progress and not just more paywalls. I do not want to refit all of my ships, I like them the way they are, and I spent time/money to get them to where they are. A magical update that comes out that invalidates all of that is not only unwelcome, it is just asking for large chunks of the playerbase to leave.
Odan Brota (Science Officer): Captain of a 28k DPS Scryer Intel Science Vessel, U.S.S. Kepler
Patiently waiting for a Romulan Science Vessel
I haven't played as long as many on here, plus I play casually at that. So I can agree I haven't seen it all. But I'm still here enjoying myself, this new toon I've started has allowed me to see so much new content I didn't even know was in the game. I'm content right now.
"Where monsters rampage, I'm there to take them down! Where treasure glitters, I'm there to claim it! Where an enemy rises to face me, victory will be mine!" -Lina Inverse
So you're saying that what I said is correct?
They said there will be "new BOFFs and BOFF powers" and that these powers will be "fun and awesome" and that you can't use these new powers on existing ships. "You need to get the T6 ships to use the new powers."
So... conjecture here... the new BOFFs have a new "career" with it's own Ens through Cmdr powers and you can't slot the new BOFFs into existing Tac/Sci/Engi/Uni BOFF seats. I think this is more likely than the new BOFFs having a "click power trait", especially with all the new career skills and stuff that was briefly mentioned.
All conjecture though. Hopefully some actual news will come out.
My point: Each and every MMO, subscription based or not, has items that become obsolete...doesn't matter if you payed for it directly via a shop or indirectly via subscription + time playing.
This is the very nature of an MMO, and frankly the only way to stay "fresh"...if you disagree with that, a neverchanging singlepalyer game is more suited.
Personaly, if i played with something for 50+ hours its price (whatever that was) was legit...i had a good time with it. It is not a lifelong investment, more like food with an expiration date. That expiration date seems to be "delta rising" for gear in STO.
It is not a piece of art that you put on display in your house for the rest of your life.
Another example i played a lot was WOW or D3 (many, many others too). Once a new expansion hit, all the time and money i spend girnding for gear becomes obsolete after the first few quests (or drops) in the new expansion. What remains is the memory of the good times you had, and that is ultimately what you payed for, not the items that you got.
I realize this may be your first MMO for some of you- but get used to it. When you spend money on a digital copy of something, you're just throwing the money away. When this game eventually gets shut down, as they all do, you're not getting a refund, or a solid toy model in the mail for those ships you've bought.
We've already thrown our money away to have access to those models and powers in the game. Come to terms with it and be more frugal with your finances the next time around.
I cant agree with this comparison, I played WoW and the situation is nothing alike. In WoW you didnt have tons of expensive paid for items like our starships, you didnt have paid upgrades like our fleet ships. Also raid gear was easy to get vs the amount of time and effort some fleets had to put into the starbase system.
This is in no way a similar situation at all. Thats not even getting into the mess that lockbox/lobi ships are. There was no reason to up the level cap honestly in any MMO, it just invalidates content and items for the entire player base. WoW was a prime example of why it was a bad idea, after 2 expansions most of the entire game was a ghost town cause everyone was in the new area.
There are ways to do an expansion, add new items and content, increase our captains in rank, WITHOUT invalidating the old content and items. Making weapons work like kits, where we could slot mods into them and tailor them to our liking by adding a new crafting option + fleet R&D holding would have worked.
Giving us a new seperate captain skill tree similar to traits and making it based of commanding 3 AI ships + Ours would have made a great way to increase our "rank". Leaving our T5 ships as the current top while adding new harder content would have given us the increased difficulty people had been asking for while not pissing off the playerbase. They could add new ships like always, with new features for the delta quadrant.
We already destroy all current endgame content in T3 ships and lower, can you imagine the poor borg stfs with T6 ships? Even I feel bad for the borg when we can solo ISE in less then a few mins with a fleet ship....
Instead we get the normal mmo 1/2 arsed way of doing an expansion, raise the players 10 levels making them start completely over. Its as good an idea as a BO3 with no power drain and 100% crit...... wait that was a terrible idea....
just to quickly invalidate your comment...in wow you pay monthly + the game and each and every expansion.
price for one year of WOW: 150 dollars subscription+ 60 dollars for the game and expansions. And you basically get NO gear for that money if you don't invest atleast 1 month worth of playtime (30 days played).
price for a year of STO: 0 dollars
what can you get for a month worth of playtime in STO? Anything the game offers with some brain power.
What happens if you dump 210 dollars on STO? You are a EC and refined dilithum billionair, access to anything the game has within the first hour you play the game.
wow isn't even the only example that is an absolutely valid example for gear getting obsolete with a new expansion.
Any expansion is intended to be a "start over" to make the entry for new players more attracktive.
what your post actual is: "They aren't going to give me what i wanted, so it must suck!"