klingon .... it reminds me of a termite for some reason, would be cool if they squashed the hull inwards making it a bit bulkier looking stole some of the forward downswept wings starting closer to the middle of the hull and changed the front saucer section's armor? to kinda wrap around the front and curve down forming something like fang's, also could be a bit thinner. Would give it a kinda fanged helm look from the front with the space between the wing curves making eye holes and such.
I'll agree to all of this except the downward-swept wings. They should be upward swept. (It looks cooler.) I've always hated that the BoPs would look cool out of combat, but once in-combat they look meh.
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
( please keep in mind these are concepts not final )
Romulan ship looks like an armored Valdore. I know it's concept art, but it's lacking the Romulan smoothness and curviness of canonical Romulan designs. (I.E. its too blocky).
The Klingon Raptor doesn't look like a Raptor at all. It looks like a Mogh Refit or a modernized Vor'cha, than a Raptor. And it feels more like it's from the distant future than 25th Century.
The Federation Ship - a flying shovel. :P
Seriously, it doesn't feel like a Federation starship at all. Or at least a Modern one. It gives me the feeling like it's from the 40th Century Starfleet than the 25th. Not even the Enterprise J was so futuristic.
Really, I am disappointed in these new Tier 6 designs.
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Fed ship reminds me of the Typhon Class. Which is NEVER a bad thing.
If you mean the Typhoon battleship NPC in STO, then i don't see any resemblance.
Who was demanding progression from the norm, when it comes to Starfleet ships?!?
The thing is Cryptic ship designers never create Starfleet ships that look just good. There always has to be some detail that makes a design look either stupid or totally goofy. It's almost like they didn't want people to like them.
The problem i see here is that Cryptics ship designers either hate to do Starfleet ship designs, or they try to reinvent the wheel all the time (and fail miserably).
Why not just create good looking Starfleet ships for a change, instead of doing experiments all the time?
As i said before, there are so many gifted people out there who are able to create gorgeous Starfleet ships, but Cryptics emplyees don't seem to be able to create a simple concept design that looks good.
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If you mean the Typhoon battleship NPC in STO, then i don't see any resemblance.
Who was demanding progression from the norm, when it comes to Starfleet ships?!?
The thing is Cryptic ship designers never create Starfleet ships that look just good. There always has to be some detail that makes a design look either stupid or totally goofy. It's almost like they didn't want people to like them.
The problem i see here is that Cryptics ship designers either hate to do Starfleet ship designs, or they try to reinvent the wheel all the time (and fail miserably).
Why not just create good looking Starfleet ships for a change, instead of doing experiments all the time?
As i said before, there are so many gifted people out there who are able to create gorgeous Starfleet ships, but Cryptics emplyees don't seem to be able to create a simple concept design that looks good.
What you think looks good may not be the same for another person.
As opposed to a massive flying frying pan all the other Federation ships are? Or the huge bathtub the Jupiter is....and the massive squashed frying pan the Galaxy is?
As opposed to a massive flying frying pan all the other Federation ships are? Or the huge bathtub the Jupiter is....and the massive squashed frying pan the Galaxy is?
Just saying :P
I prefer the canonical frypan to Cryptic's frankenstiens. :rolleyes:
I just brushed it off, realizing that the Galaxy Quest ship looks way better than the Fed ship in this concept art.
A parody ship looks more like it belongs in Starfleet than that... that... thing! (Somewhat joking.)
But more seriously:
The general direction would probably actually work, but it needs a more sleek, dagger-like profile. There's too many fat angles. Thinner, tapered nacelles, with longer pylons to hold them further from the rest of the ship, would do wonders for this design to make it look more like a futuristic Stargazer and less like one of the ships from TRON: Legacy.
It'd be cool to see a few different hull materials in addition to the reflective timeship one, too. That would really highlight how bad the nacelles are as-is, or how well the design could work with my suggestions.
As opposed to a massive flying frying pan all the other Federation ships are? Or the huge bathtub the Jupiter is....and the massive squashed frying pan the Galaxy is?
As opposed to a massive flying frying pan all the other Federation ships are? Or the huge bathtub the Jupiter is....and the massive squashed frying paun the Galaxy is?
The problem i see here is that Cryptics ship designers either hate to do Starfleet ship designs, or they try to reinvent the wheel all the time (and fail miserably).
Why not just create good looking Starfleet ships for a change, instead of doing experiments all the time?
As i said before, there are so many gifted people out there who are able to create gorgeous Starfleet ships, but Cryptics emplyees don't seem to be able to create a simple concept design that looks good.
Let's be fair. Since the initial release of the game and the first set of ship skins (which where aside from a few exceptions (Dervish, Excalibur) horrible they have massively improved. (Aventine, Venture etc.)
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I'm really digging that Romulan ship and I look forward to seeing her specs. Depending how good she is, I may have to hold off on getting a Scimitar.
I've seen some people complain about her looks, saying she's too angular and not as sleek as some of the other Romulans ships, but what if that's the point? When the Romulan Republic was in its infancy they took and used whatever they could get their hands on. Even your player character started off with an old busted 23rd century bird of prey. Now that it's been a year and they've had tremendous support from both the Federation and the Klingon Empire, this design could be the first original Republic ship produced. The angular design could have been on purpose, in order to move away from the old Imperial look of old.
Of course not everyone must like this new design direction. Looks are subjective after all and people's opinions will differ. Personally I like this design and I want to see more of it.
They really make GREAT looking ships for Romulans and Klingons. Fed ships in contrast.. I can't say I particulary liked the looks of any of the pure Cryptic designs. Avenger, Regent, Tempest and this new concept art... they are not terrible but also nothing special.
They really make GREAT looking ships for Romulans and Klingons. Fed ships in contrast.. I can't say I particulary liked the looks of any of the pure Cryptic designs. Avenger, Regent, Tempest and this new concept art... they are not terrible but also nothing special.
Let's be fair. Since the initial release of the game and the first set of ship skins (which where aside from a few exceptions (Dervish, Excalibur) horrible they have massively improved. (Aventine, Venture etc.)
That's true.
However there are some fall backs from time to time, as you can see.
I woudln't have reacted so harsh, if this would only have been one ship amongs many others.
But this is a concept art, which means it doesn't even have to go live, but the general idea of this design will reflect to many other future ships in STO. And that is far more concerning IMO.
"...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--"
- (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie
Actually, if you know about that shor lived proyect for the new star trek animated series, the ship descriptions were kind of in that style..
Sharp edges, armed to the teeth, anyway, interesting concept, the Defiant type, i love it.. the Cruiser Retrofit, its in an odd angle, not ugly, lets see more
As opposed to a massive flying frying pan all the other Federation ships are? Or the huge bathtub the Jupiter is....and the massive squashed frying pan the Galaxy is?
Just saying :P
You do know the Jupiter is a Cryptic design right?
What the hell was that Starfleet Ship supposed to be? I thought the idea was we were supposed to be moving in the direction of the Ent-J?
They are moving towards it. The Ent-J is so big, everything in the universe is being pulled towards it. In fact, time wasn't linear before they built it, and time itself is being pulled in by it due to its mass. After they built it, the universe itself eventually collapses, the ship explodes, and the result is a new big bang and a new universe that expands until they build it again, and it starts all over.
If that Fed ship wasn't so ugly, it would simply be boring. Wow, here's hoping Cryptic has some better ideas for the other ones. Honestly, the only good Fed designs I've seen are from fan art.
( please keep in mind these are concepts not final )
As best I can tell, those designs are for Tier 6 Romulan, Tier 6 Klingon, and Tier 6 Master Control Program. Does it come with a Lightcycle pet?
Nice to see there's going to be more races. I'm guessing the Kazon are strictly NPC, filling the role of interstellar annoyance that the Gorn fill in Fed space.
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Klank ship's a klank ship.
Gonna have to see some more angles of the Fed ship, but interesting engine design.
Just because it looks worse doesn't mean it ain't lawyer bait.
I'll agree to all of this except the downward-swept wings. They should be upward swept. (It looks cooler.) I've always hated that the BoPs would look cool out of combat, but once in-combat they look meh.
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
Romulan ship looks like an armored Valdore. I know it's concept art, but it's lacking the Romulan smoothness and curviness of canonical Romulan designs. (I.E. its too blocky).
The Klingon Raptor doesn't look like a Raptor at all. It looks like a Mogh Refit or a modernized Vor'cha, than a Raptor. And it feels more like it's from the distant future than 25th Century.
The Federation Ship - a flying shovel. :P
Seriously, it doesn't feel like a Federation starship at all. Or at least a Modern one. It gives me the feeling like it's from the 40th Century Starfleet than the 25th. Not even the Enterprise J was so futuristic.
Really, I am disappointed in these new Tier 6 designs.
The Jupiter class being in the game for so many years now, looks better than the "federation" concept art on that link. To me at least.
Pls, Devs, bring the Jupiter and the Typhoon as well, some players are really wanting them (just as i am).
Who was demanding progression from the norm, when it comes to Starfleet ships?!?
The thing is Cryptic ship designers never create Starfleet ships that look just good. There always has to be some detail that makes a design look either stupid or totally goofy. It's almost like they didn't want people to like them.
The problem i see here is that Cryptics ship designers either hate to do Starfleet ship designs, or they try to reinvent the wheel all the time (and fail miserably).
Why not just create good looking Starfleet ships for a change, instead of doing experiments all the time?
As i said before, there are so many gifted people out there who are able to create gorgeous Starfleet ships, but Cryptics emplyees don't seem to be able to create a simple concept design that looks good.
As opposed to a massive flying frying pan all the other Federation ships are? Or the huge bathtub the Jupiter is....and the massive squashed frying pan the Galaxy is?
Just saying :P
I prefer the canonical frypan to Cryptic's frankenstiens. :rolleyes:
But more seriously:
The general direction would probably actually work, but it needs a more sleek, dagger-like profile. There's too many fat angles. Thinner, tapered nacelles, with longer pylons to hold them further from the rest of the ship, would do wonders for this design to make it look more like a futuristic Stargazer and less like one of the ships from TRON: Legacy.
It'd be cool to see a few different hull materials in addition to the reflective timeship one, too. That would really highlight how bad the nacelles are as-is, or how well the design could work with my suggestions.
I'd rather have a Frying Pan than a Squid.
Nvm, misread the sarcasm in this post.
Let's be fair. Since the initial release of the game and the first set of ship skins (which where aside from a few exceptions (Dervish, Excalibur) horrible they have massively improved. (Aventine, Venture etc.)
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
I've seen some people complain about her looks, saying she's too angular and not as sleek as some of the other Romulans ships, but what if that's the point? When the Romulan Republic was in its infancy they took and used whatever they could get their hands on. Even your player character started off with an old busted 23rd century bird of prey. Now that it's been a year and they've had tremendous support from both the Federation and the Klingon Empire, this design could be the first original Republic ship produced. The angular design could have been on purpose, in order to move away from the old Imperial look of old.
Of course not everyone must like this new design direction. Looks are subjective after all and people's opinions will differ. Personally I like this design and I want to see more of it.
in my opinion i love the way the avenger looks
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That's true.
However there are some fall backs from time to time, as you can see.
I woudln't have reacted so harsh, if this would only have been one ship amongs many others.
But this is a concept art, which means it doesn't even have to go live, but the general idea of this design will reflect to many other future ships in STO. And that is far more concerning IMO.
I like Romulan and Klingon ships....But seriously...If the Starfleet Starship is what we're getting....Im not sure how I feel about it.
Sharp edges, armed to the teeth, anyway, interesting concept, the Defiant type, i love it.. the Cruiser Retrofit, its in an odd angle, not ugly, lets see more
You do know the Jupiter is a Cryptic design right?
You DO realize that almost all of Voyager was *made* in the 90's, right?
Nice to see there's going to be more races. I'm guessing the Kazon are strictly NPC, filling the role of interstellar annoyance that the Gorn fill in Fed space.
I like the Fed model,, and if it looks like what I think it will, this will be a nasty (as in good nasty) ship.
4 Nacelles.
So any ideas what might be the special abilities?
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