Also, there is no point is selling the lock box ships because they will NOT be obsolete. They keep saying that and no one listens.
So this conversation is baseless.
Everywhere I look, people are screaming about how bad Cryptic is.
What's my position?
That people should know what they're screaming about!
(paraphrased from "The Newsroom)
Also, there is no point is selling the lock box ships because they will NOT be obsolete. They keep saying that and no one listens.
So this conversation is baseless.
+1 keep the lockbox ships.. they will only increase in value..
its the lobi ships that stay the same price.
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Since all these ships you have stored up are all considered obsolete ...and no one will purchase obsolete stuff from the exchange ...why not do us both a favor and send your "junk" lockbox ships my way?
I collect other people's obsolete stuff, it's a hobby of mine.
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rattler2Member, Star Trek Online ModeratorPosts: 58,449Community Moderator
edited August 2014
Hate to say it but... veiled Doom thread?
T6 ships aren't replacing our T5 and Fleet ships. At best, they have a gimmick that makes them T6, just like Fleet can be considered 5.5. Lockbox ships will still be viable. Its a major source of income for Cryptic. They're not going to destroy that.
A solution could be to just divide every value ingame by 100 (round where necessary). There is barely any item ingame that's valued below 100 EC anways, so they might as well cut the last two digits.
Wouldn't have any impact on anyone else other than getting used to lower numbers, the select few with big enough bank accounts could get a higher cap, plus it'd have a positive influence on game perfomance.
dont you think that players would create like merry hell when one day they have eg 2000000 in there account and the next they have 20000?
then how can you convince other players that the last time they sold one of those LB keys they listed it for 1.5 million but now they can only list it for 15,000.
I`m afraid it would never work they way you imagine it would.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Why do I hear the OP, speaking with Garry Oldman's voice? I'm suddenly getting a mental image of Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg.
I live for the day, when the rest of us are just playing with our free ships and 100K max spent on gear ... and it''s finally down to the last two Exchange Gougers, buying and selling to each other, because they are the only ones who can afford the stupid prices ... I'm playing a violin for you ...
Also, there is no point is selling the lock box ships because they will NOT be obsolete. They keep saying that and no one listens.
Depends on how you look at it.
If they are just slightly worse than any of the new ships, they will become obsolete in the eyes of a lot of people, just like the old level 40 ships did, even though you can still complete 100% of the current endgame content with them. Consoles are another prime example: armour, particle gens, graviton emitters, rcs etc... all dropped tremendously in price when the embassy and the mine hit and we suddenly had access to just slightly better consoles, even though the old X, XI, XIIs weren't really obsolete.
If they are just slightly worse than any of the new ships, they will become obsolete in the eyes of a lot of people, just like the old level 40 ships did, even though you can still complete 100% of the current endgame content with them. Consoles are another prime example: armour, particle gens, graviton emitters, rcs etc... all dropped tremendously in price when the embassy and the mine hit and we suddenly had access to just slightly better consoles, even though the old X, XI, XIIs weren't really obsolete.
So in the end, his concern is valid.
Of course you will be able to play 100% of endgame content with T5 ships. So, in my eyes there will be no problem.
It's just a matter of "keeping up with the Jones" and bragging rights. With T6, some are worried about working on the size of their e-peen all over again. Which is ridiculous.
People really need to look up the word "obsolete". And no, I'm not talking about you specifically. I'm talking in general.
There is a rumor that keys will eventually be bound to account. Apparently they did it in Neverwinter already.
Ewwwww, that could be a really bad idea on this game, as keys being purchased to sell for EC's, is probably a high money maker for Cryptic.
Making them account bound, would completely bottom out the market, for those who purchase keys for this reason alone, now don't get me wrong people will still buy them for personal use, but a large amount of key purchasing will become obsolete if they were account bound only.
That is of course provided, that the people who bought them to be sold for EC's, doesn't actually just buy them to open boxes themselves, in hopes of the goods to be sold in place of keys alone.
I would not recommend that, according to the players in thetradingchannel, the current keys will be obsolete.
That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. And I've heard a lot of dumb.
Please, do tell why they think that.
EDIT: Ahha, the possibility of account bound keys like in NW. Well, the difference here is that we have an economy, unlike NW (which completely broke down and collapsed 6 months or so ago) and making keys account bound would devastate ours here.
Ewwwww, that could be a really bad idea on this game, as keys being purchased to sell for EC's, is probably a high money maker for Cryptic.
Making them account bound, would completely bottom out the market, for those who purchase keys for this reason alone, now don't get me wrong people will still buy them for personal use, but a large amount of key purchasing will become obsolete if they were account bound only.
That is of course provided, that the people who bought them to be sold for EC's, doesn't actually just buy them to open boxes themselves, in hopes of the goods to be sold in place of keys alone.
The difference is Neverwinter keys still have Zen value - unlike STO keys, which do not. So they were never become bind to account in STO.
keys keys keys, what is this obsession with the f**king keys ????buy up fleet modules instead, at between 8 to 10 mil each you can have a more valuable asset this way.( of course if you want to store ec in fleet modules buy up the most expensive 1's 1st)
What do you ever plan on spending all this EC on??? Fleets of bug ships and Bulwarks?
Just thinking that at this point you probably have more EC than you could ever need.
As for removing the EC cap there has to be some kind of limit in any game as far as I know.
You COULD get a trusted friend to sell these items for you, Ive known people do it before and I have done this myself for players who have maxed their cap and had people do it for me before I bought the cap increase.
But seriously there is very little in game that should be an issue for you to buy with EC aside from zen purchases so why not spend out on a few toon slots?
"If this will be our end, then I will have them make SUCH an end as to be worthy of rememberance! Out of torpedos you say?! Find me the ferengi!".
Save your ships and sell them for when you need EC, problem over. It's no different than if you turned it in now to EC.
You will get it regardless.
Because the person wants to Capitalize, on the possible EC's they could get now, and not later with possibility of depreciation, but still not a justifiable reason for lifting the cap.
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So this conversation is baseless.
What's my position?
That people should know what they're screaming about!
(paraphrased from "The Newsroom)
+1 keep the lockbox ships.. they will only increase in value..
its the lobi ships that stay the same price.
[12:44] Vessel One of Two Unimatrix 01 deals 1019527 (1157678) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Energy Bolt Explosion.
I collect other people's obsolete stuff, it's a hobby of mine.
T6 ships aren't replacing our T5 and Fleet ships. At best, they have a gimmick that makes them T6, just like Fleet can be considered 5.5. Lockbox ships will still be viable. Its a major source of income for Cryptic. They're not going to destroy that.
dont you think that players would create like merry hell when one day they have eg 2000000 in there account and the next they have 20000?
then how can you convince other players that the last time they sold one of those LB keys they listed it for 1.5 million but now they can only list it for 15,000.
I`m afraid it would never work they way you imagine it would.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
I live for the day, when the rest of us are just playing with our free ships and 100K max spent on gear ... and it''s finally down to the last two Exchange Gougers, buying and selling to each other, because they are the only ones who can afford the stupid prices ... I'm playing a violin for you ...
Depends on how you look at it.
If they are just slightly worse than any of the new ships, they will become obsolete in the eyes of a lot of people, just like the old level 40 ships did, even though you can still complete 100% of the current endgame content with them. Consoles are another prime example: armour, particle gens, graviton emitters, rcs etc... all dropped tremendously in price when the embassy and the mine hit and we suddenly had access to just slightly better consoles, even though the old X, XI, XIIs weren't really obsolete.
So in the end, his concern is valid.
Of course you will be able to play 100% of endgame content with T5 ships. So, in my eyes there will be no problem.
It's just a matter of "keeping up with the Jones" and bragging rights. With T6, some are worried about working on the size of their e-peen all over again. Which is ridiculous.
People really need to look up the word "obsolete". And no, I'm not talking about you specifically. I'm talking in general.
Ewwwww, that could be a really bad idea on this game, as keys being purchased to sell for EC's, is probably a high money maker for Cryptic.
Making them account bound, would completely bottom out the market, for those who purchase keys for this reason alone, now don't get me wrong people will still buy them for personal use, but a large amount of key purchasing will become obsolete if they were account bound only.
That is of course provided, that the people who bought them to be sold for EC's, doesn't actually just buy them to open boxes themselves, in hopes of the goods to be sold in place of keys alone.
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That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. And I've heard a lot of dumb.
Please, do tell why they think that.
EDIT: Ahha, the possibility of account bound keys like in NW. Well, the difference here is that we have an economy, unlike NW (which completely broke down and collapsed 6 months or so ago) and making keys account bound would devastate ours here.
Cryptic can't be that stupid...can they?
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The difference is Neverwinter keys still have Zen value - unlike STO keys, which do not. So they were never become bind to account in STO.
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Just thinking that at this point you probably have more EC than you could ever need.
As for removing the EC cap there has to be some kind of limit in any game as far as I know.
You COULD get a trusted friend to sell these items for you, Ive known people do it before and I have done this myself for players who have maxed their cap and had people do it for me before I bought the cap increase.
But seriously there is very little in game that should be an issue for you to buy with EC aside from zen purchases so why not spend out on a few toon slots?
"If this will be our end, then I will have them make SUCH an end as to be worthy of rememberance! Out of torpedos you say?! Find me the ferengi!".
Because the person wants to Capitalize, on the possible EC's they could get now, and not later with possibility of depreciation, but still not a justifiable reason for lifting the cap.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!