And at some point, you just give in, and roll the Fed toon with the lobotomy scar...am I right?
I'm right.
Meh.
No, no, no, no.........you got it wrong, it's the other way around!
See, they're not sending me to explore the Delta Quadrant, they're sending me to destroy the Delta Quadrant. As a Star Trek fan what do you think makes more sense to go with to me?
Yeah, the only possible "giving in" that could happen on my side it to restructure and focus my entire game around the KDF and forget about playing Fed. I mostly play KDF anyway.
But otherwise I agree with you. I wasn't doing anything but a devil's advocate defence of Cryptic, and that alone was more of a Mogh vs Avenger argument. I definitely don't appreciate the plethora of 5 tac console ships on the Federation and Romulan lineup, with the Bortasqu' being the only representative for the KDF.
>This one< She will change that situation, mark my words.
Granted, we have no idea on the stats yet - however I've got a very good feeling about this one. And I rarely get that feeling around here.
No, no, no, no.........you got it wrong, it's the other way around!
See, they're not sending me to explore the Delta Quadrant, they're sending me to destroy the Delta Quadrant. As a Star Trek fan what do you think makes more sense to go with to me?
Yeah, the only possible "giving in" that could happen on my side it to restructure and focus my entire game around the KDF and forget about playing Fed. I mostly play KDF anyway.
>This one< She will change that situation, mark my words.
Granted, we have no idea on the stats yet - however I've got a very good feeling about this one. And I rarely get that feeling around here.
I don't even use Raptors and will likely drop some Zen on it assuming its decent.
I don't even use Raptors and will likely drop some Zen on it assuming its decent.
I used to use Raptors and enjoy them a lot. I still use a Qin on one character, they're nice ships. Too bad there isn't one quite on par with the times we're in currently. I hope that the new Raptor will open up some opportunities for me to get back to this ship class.
My friends I thank you for shareing your hearts and feelings about this up coming content. Truely I wish and hope that the ships released are what we have been asking for. Personnaly a 5-fwd and 5-tac console ship would be great. But we did not chose kdf for the access to ships or content. If you did than bless you for populating kdf game-play anyway. The greatness of personal character to drive on through the past neglections we have seen is not something to be overlooked especially by ourselves.
Cryptic will always cuddle the Feddy-bears, give them everything of ours that has any good use. If you have read their posts, they definitly need the help. Those few of them who are grateful for what they have access to seem few. It must be an awful existence for the others though, to have oppertunities offered on a platter with garnish and lace napkin and still so many whine of how everyone has wronged them. We at least can have the pride of our past and continued struggle.
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I was Klingon before Klingon was cool.
I used to use Raptors and enjoy them a lot. I still use a Qin on one character, they're nice ships. Too bad there isn't one quite on par with the times we're in currently. I hope that the new Raptor will open up some opportunities for me to get back to this ship class.
I remember long ago, after my 2 year break from the game, I got my Klingon to use my old Qin Raptor for PVP. I ended up fighting a JHAS
I used to use Raptors and enjoy them a lot. I still use a Qin on one character, they're nice ships. Too bad there isn't one quite on par with the times we're in currently. I hope that the new Raptor will open up some opportunities for me to get back to this ship class.
I used to use one on one of my other toons but found the Pegh'qu a better ship for me.
Based on the rather unexpectedly (for me) small amount of T6 ships being released with Delta Rising, I'm going with 3.
maybe 3 if youre including the 2 romulans ships kdf-roms will be able to choose.
i predict kdf will get the raptor shown in vegas, and nothing more. a 3-3-4 raptor with a 4-3 loadout and the qin pivot, mark my words.
maybe 3 if youre including the 2 romulans ships kdf-roms will be able to choose.
i predict kdf will get the raptor shown in vegas, and nothing more. a 3-3-4 raptor with a 4-3 loadout and the qin pivot, mark my words.
lol I hope it's not that bad, it's suposed to be T6 after all.
I was thinking along the lines of 4 Fed (sci, escort, cruiser, + sth. gratis as always), 3 KDF (bop, raptor, sci.ship or battlecruiser) & 3 Rom (tactical warbird- the one in the concept screams tac, science warbird, Romulan carrier). Could even be 5 Fed, 3 KDF, 2 Rom, believe me Romulans are unfortunately screwed already - they're the KDF Mk II in terms of development.
Well, no matter how many ships we get right out of the starting gate, I'll be sure and buy them for the sake of supporting the KDF, as long as they aren't stupid and/or exact copy-pastes of what the other factions get.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
I got to say I read their 7 to 10 ships as 5 Fed, 1 KDF & 1 Rom for sure and with any luck and they can actually do 10, 2 KDF, 2 Rom & 6 Fed.
Ideally the 10 ship break down should be 3 Fed, 4 KDF & 3 Rom. Escort, Cruiser, Sci vessel for everybody and a extra BoP Raider for the Klingons. With the 11th T6 ship being the KDF Carrier.
I was once DKnight1000, apparently I had taken my own name so now I'm DKnight0001. If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why. When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
yeah, i think its safe to say the feddies must be given the flanking gimmick via a new aquarius that will no doubt well and truely **** on our rustbucket BoPs.
I got to say I read their 7 to 10 ships as 5 Fed, 1 KDF & 1 Rom for sure and with any luck and they can actually do 10, 2 KDF, 2 Rom & 6 Fed.
Ideally the 10 ship break down should be 3 Fed, 4 KDF & 3 Rom. Escort, Cruiser, Sci vessel for everybody and a extra BoP Raider for the Klingons. With the 11th T6 ship being the KDF Carrier.
That was how I took it as well, not that one faction is going to get 10 ships but there will be 10 total between the three factions.
Undoubtedly the KDF will have the fewest, the Feds the most and the RR somewhere in the middle.
I for one have high hopes that the factions will be closer to balance in DR. The end of the Klingon-Federation war opens up a brand new future for STO. All the missions can now be played by all the factions, like Feature Episodes.
Bringing the factions in to balance is not on Cryptics to do list.. With the ending of the fed KDF war, and the shelving of any potential plans to created a territorial space war in game they're completely done with any efforts towards any sort of faction balance, and its pretty obvious.
And I don't really care any more. Cryptic has some other issues they could fix, but they won't.
It's all about the money.
And cryptic and PWI want to spend as little of it as possible on actuall product development.
Bringing the factions in to balance is not on Cryptics to do list.. With the ending of the fed KDF war, and the shelving of any potential plans to created a territorial space war in game they're completely done with any efforts towards any sort of faction balance, and its pretty obvious.
And I don't really care any more. Cryptic has some other issues they could fix, but they won't.
It's all about the money.
And cryptic and PWI want to spend as little of it as possible on actuall product development.
Sure they could drop the ball, none of us knows for sure what the future holds. But we can still do our part and be objective about the kdf faction.
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I was Klingon before Klingon was cool.
Balance is rock, paper, scissors not rock, rock, boulder.
i do not want to be like the federation. but i do want equality. and that don't mean cloning the ships and skills or what ever. i want balance jsut as the game rock paper scissors each one can outperform only 1 of the other two but all are in equal balance in that the same rules apply to all 3 and each has the same advantage and disadvantage. all while maintaing their own identity.
Trophies for killing FEDS ahh those were the days.
Considering the influx of 'I want this for the Fed side' threads that are in the Fed parts of the forum over the past couple days (two threads on wanting more cloaks and one now for wanting a Fed raider), I really don't expect any kind of 'balance' between factions with the next expansion.
It also REALLY doesn't help when Smirk of all people, instead of shutting down threads like that, starts actually talking as if it might possibly happen, at least for the Fed cloak idea. Worst part is, it's probably all gonna happen if the rumors of the Aquarius are true, and Smirk isn't BSing about the cloaks.
So I really don't think that there will be any kind of 'balance' between factions, or at least not the 'balance' we are wanting here. The Feds will get more and more, the KDF will get the least, and the Roms will get whatever is leftover, all while KDF and Roms give more consoles with the next lockbox.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
Id be extremely surprised if at least one of the new Starfleet ships is not equipped with battlecloaking. On the plus side though its unlikely they will take any more KDF consoles now that there are no good ones they don't have at this point.
all the talk about ships for the factions just makes me wonder. we are nearly out of canon ships. for the factions we already have. and now they talk of new playable species for the X2, im sure we Klingons are getting stuck with the Kazon. and i guess that ok since the feddy bears have to deal with the nelix crowd. but what if all or most of the new ships they are talking about are delta Quad species ships?
and the new boff slot and abilities will probably be related to those new species not any species we currently have. so im expecting those abilties to be non-combat in nature thats why the devs say our old ships will still be competitive.
Benthan "Do not, however, assume their guarded civilization makes them backward. Benthan Guard ships can be a match for Alpha Quadrant technology, and cooperating with them when possible may be a far safer course of action than opposing them. "
Hazari " the Hazari have taken contracts from all comers, concerning themselves with the act of completing a contract, without regard to the politics of who was requesting their services or what the requested task was"
so making a few multiple choice missions lets them cheap out on making singular content that all can use rather than faction specific content.
talaxian for the diplomat or ambassador what ever he called himself.
or kazon bully tactic for flip side to diplomat?
ocampa magic move across space possible?
i forget the name of the species. but the race that was asleep for 900 years with the subspace corridors to move across space as a balance to the ocampa is possible ?EDIT: and they know of the Klingons from that episode one of them commented about reading about them in the Voy data base and said they had many things in common.
stuff like that. i mean really i have no idea but it would not suprise me if they moved in that direction and truthfully it would be a welcomed relief to me because i do not want to leave my favorite ships in the hanger. maybe get a new ship just for the missions then change back if that much even.
I have played all the current missions atleast once. some many more times with multiple toons just for the gear grind. but as a klingon most of the missions are hard to stomach. i mean really a Klingon tactical officer doing brain surgery on a deferi come on .
Trophies for killing FEDS ahh those were the days.
and i think nina is right as far as a actual Klingon ships goes we will probably only get the one. but 2 maybe 3 more allied species ships (including kdf roms) and the rest will be for the feddy bears and their new allies.
Trophies for killing FEDS ahh those were the days.
yeah watch the official trailer for DR i only noticed one Klingon ship and its the same one we have already seen . along with 3 fed and one rommy ship rest all looked like new things.
Trophies for killing FEDS ahh those were the days.
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No, no, no, no.........you got it wrong, it's the other way around!
See, they're not sending me to explore the Delta Quadrant, they're sending me to destroy the Delta Quadrant. As a Star Trek fan what do you think makes more sense to go with to me?
Yeah, the only possible "giving in" that could happen on my side it to restructure and focus my entire game around the KDF and forget about playing Fed. I mostly play KDF anyway.
>This one< She will change that situation, mark my words.
Granted, we have no idea on the stats yet - however I've got a very good feeling about this one. And I rarely get that feeling around here.
Cryptic should force every single character to look like Gary from Fallout 3.
I doubt kdf will ever get serious attention they love mollycoddling the feddy bears
I don't even use Raptors and will likely drop some Zen on it assuming its decent.
I used to use Raptors and enjoy them a lot. I still use a Qin on one character, they're nice ships. Too bad there isn't one quite on par with the times we're in currently. I hope that the new Raptor will open up some opportunities for me to get back to this ship class.
Cryptic will always cuddle the Feddy-bears, give them everything of ours that has any good use. If you have read their posts, they definitly need the help. Those few of them who are grateful for what they have access to seem few. It must be an awful existence for the others though, to have oppertunities offered on a platter with garnish and lace napkin and still so many whine of how everyone has wronged them. We at least can have the pride of our past and continued struggle.
I was Klingon before Klingon was cool.
I remember long ago, after my 2 year break from the game, I got my Klingon to use my old Qin Raptor for PVP. I ended up fighting a JHAS
I used to use one on one of my other toons but found the Pegh'qu a better ship for me.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Based on the rather unexpectedly (for me) small amount of T6 ships being released with Delta Rising, I'm going with 3.
maybe 3 if youre including the 2 romulans ships kdf-roms will be able to choose.
i predict kdf will get the raptor shown in vegas, and nothing more. a 3-3-4 raptor with a 4-3 loadout and the qin pivot, mark my words.
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I was thinking along the lines of 4 Fed (sci, escort, cruiser, + sth. gratis as always), 3 KDF (bop, raptor, sci.ship or battlecruiser) & 3 Rom (tactical warbird- the one in the concept screams tac, science warbird, Romulan carrier). Could even be 5 Fed, 3 KDF, 2 Rom, believe me Romulans are unfortunately screwed already - they're the KDF Mk II in terms of development.
if they can do ten total you may be right... I'm only counting on one though. not going to get my hopes up though. makes one bitter.
it actually alot more then I thought.
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Well, according to D'Angelo's latest blog - it's going to be around 10 ships, that's why I made such an assumption. We shall see soon enough.
Ideally the 10 ship break down should be 3 Fed, 4 KDF & 3 Rom. Escort, Cruiser, Sci vessel for everybody and a extra BoP Raider for the Klingons. With the 11th T6 ship being the KDF Carrier.
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That was how I took it as well, not that one faction is going to get 10 ships but there will be 10 total between the three factions.
Undoubtedly the KDF will have the fewest, the Feds the most and the RR somewhere in the middle.
since it said 7 - 10 I'm betting the low number so I'm not disappointed if a few of the ships are late.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
And I don't really care any more. Cryptic has some other issues they could fix, but they won't.
It's all about the money.
And cryptic and PWI want to spend as little of it as possible on actuall product development.
Sure they could drop the ball, none of us knows for sure what the future holds. But we can still do our part and be objective about the kdf faction.
I was Klingon before Klingon was cool.
What Mimey has said.
R.I.P
i do not want to be like the federation. but i do want equality. and that don't mean cloning the ships and skills or what ever. i want balance jsut as the game rock paper scissors each one can outperform only 1 of the other two but all are in equal balance in that the same rules apply to all 3 and each has the same advantage and disadvantage. all while maintaing their own identity.
It also REALLY doesn't help when Smirk of all people, instead of shutting down threads like that, starts actually talking as if it might possibly happen, at least for the Fed cloak idea. Worst part is, it's probably all gonna happen if the rumors of the Aquarius are true, and Smirk isn't BSing about the cloaks.
So I really don't think that there will be any kind of 'balance' between factions, or at least not the 'balance' we are wanting here. The Feds will get more and more, the KDF will get the least, and the Roms will get whatever is leftover, all while KDF and Roms give more consoles with the next lockbox.
Even so, I'd still love to be proven wrong.
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Talaxians = Feddy bears
Kazon = KDF
Ocampans = Rommy
what little info they are leaking out does show a few ships along with the species.
and the new boff slot and abilities will probably be related to those new species not any species we currently have. so im expecting those abilties to be non-combat in nature thats why the devs say our old ships will still be competitive.
and in those briefings it looks like during some missions we will have to choose a side during the mission so a diplomat boff possibly?
Benthan "Do not, however, assume their guarded civilization makes them backward. Benthan Guard ships can be a match for Alpha Quadrant technology, and cooperating with them when possible may be a far safer course of action than opposing them. "
Hazari " the Hazari have taken contracts from all comers, concerning themselves with the act of completing a contract, without regard to the politics of who was requesting their services or what the requested task was"
so making a few multiple choice missions lets them cheap out on making singular content that all can use rather than faction specific content.
talaxian for the diplomat or ambassador what ever he called himself.
or kazon bully tactic for flip side to diplomat?
ocampa magic move across space possible?
i forget the name of the species. but the race that was asleep for 900 years with the subspace corridors to move across space as a balance to the ocampa is possible ?EDIT: and they know of the Klingons from that episode one of them commented about reading about them in the Voy data base and said they had many things in common.
stuff like that. i mean really i have no idea but it would not suprise me if they moved in that direction and truthfully it would be a welcomed relief to me because i do not want to leave my favorite ships in the hanger. maybe get a new ship just for the missions then change back if that much even.
I have played all the current missions atleast once. some many more times with multiple toons just for the gear grind. but as a klingon most of the missions are hard to stomach. i mean really a Klingon tactical officer doing brain surgery on a deferi come on .