Not like anyone from Cryptic will care, all about the money.
Why else would they focus on Voyager? It isn't compelling, it had very few good moments in its 7 - year lifetime, and it's entirely disposable.
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While my first impulse is to apologise for our behavior , as I'm sure the tidbits from STLV were meant to excite and intrigue us , and as always , most of us do appreciate interacting with most of the the Devs -- I also have to point out that this reaction (and yes , even the overreaction) + the concerns expressed here are not out of the blue .
I'll also add that your company has a persistent habit of doing / announcing / updating things on a Thursday and then waiting until Monday at best to address any player concern .
That leaves again and again 4-5 days minimum until something is said on any controversial topic .
Perhaps this could be worked on , so that future speculation , misunderstandings and concerns can be addressed faster and thus generating more positive interaction with your players .
Heartily seconded.
Far too often, the issue is with the information flow not the hard work of the devs.
There seems to be no capacity to learn from previous experience there.
Why else would they focus on Voyager? It isn't compelling, it had very few good moments in its 7 - year lifetime, and it's entirely disposable.
Well to be honest, it was the playerbase that voted Voyager on that poll a year or so ago. So if you're gonna' blame anyone - blame the playerbase, or at least the part that logged in here and participated in the poll.
Well to be honest, it was the playerbase that voted Voyager on that poll a year or so ago. So if you're gonna' blame anyone - blame the playerbase, or at least the part that logged in here and participated in the poll.
Alternatively, blame those who didn't log in and vote in the poll, as they're just as much to blame for the outcome, not least as there were probably a lot more who didn't vote at all than who voted for all of the options combined.
Too often people don't bother saying anything, until it's far too late.
Well to be honest, it was the playerbase that voted Voyager on that poll a year or so ago. So if you're gonna' blame anyone - blame the playerbase, or at least the part that logged in here and participated in the poll.
You mean they actually payed attention to something we wanted? Wow. I honestly didn't see that coming. I still find it odd they would make an entire expansion over it. I can see Tuvok and the last FE. But after Dyson obliterated VOY (and aspects of TNG) I wouldn't imagine an a huge expansion dedicated to it. Still cool they bowed to someone other than the PvP crowd.
My Old Blog about things that could and should have been added when I wrote it. Not sure what I want to do with it now. I'll just keep it available now that most of it is outdated.
From discussions about the T5 Connie, the "original plan" was that "canon" ships were never to be available for "endgame" - partially because of the T5 Connie & NX issue, partially because of the Galaxy Syndrome (Galaxy should be amongst best of game)...
Someone screwed the pooch with the C-store seasons ago, and hence the TNG heroes being T5 retrofitted, but neither of the "old school canon" heroes (and not so heroes like Miranda)...
If T6 is supposed to be a "reset button" of sorts - making escorts back into glass cannons, science ships the pros at control, and tanking cruisers a necessity to keep the escorts and scis alive, then I expect whatever Dev originally wanted "no canon at endgame" will be back in force, and maybe even get the decree to stick this time...
Yet, you won't be "completely gimped" if you do want canon, because your T5 stuff will still "function", even without all the bells and whistles of T6. While I (half) jest about the T6 Connie in the STLV thread, if anything's gonna get us T5 Connies, it's this - because I forsee the DSD taking the lead in Sci, Oddessy or Avenger as Cruiser, and whatever non-canon escort is the highlight of T5 as the lead there, maybe even getting "freebie" versions, then the C-store will build out from there...
Detecting big-time "anti-old-school" bias here. NX? Lobi. TOS/TMP Connie? Super-promotion-box. (aka the two hardest ways to get ships) Excelsior & all 3 TNG "big hero" ships? C-Store. Please Equalize...
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You mean they actually payed attention to something we wanted? Wow. I honestly didn't see that coming. I still find it odd they would make an entire expansion over it. I can see Tuvok and the last FE. But after Dyson obliterated VOY (and aspects of TNG) I wouldn't imagine an a huge expansion dedicated to it. Still cool they bowed to someone other than the PvP crowd.
The expansion isn't dedicated to Voyager, it's dedicated to the Delta Quadrant, which Voyager just happens to be the first Federation ship to have explored the Delta Quadrant and made it back to the Alpha Quadrant.
It would be stupid to explore the Delta Quadrant more and not take some of the most knowledgeable people A.K.A. people who have actually been there.
Do you want STO to simply ignore the Delta Quadrant simply because you don't like Voyager and it was there? Want to cut out a quarter of our galaxy because you didn't like the show that took place there?
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You mean they actually payed attention to something we wanted?
They do that a lot more than you might think what with your pessimist-colored glasses on.
I'd say the problem is 40% the playerbase being idiots who don't really know what we want and 60% dev decisions that may or may not be bad but that we disagree with anyway.
Do you want STO to simply ignore the Delta Quadrant simply because you don't like Voyager and it was there? Want to cut out a quarter of our galaxy because you didn't like the show that took place there?
My issue isn't with the Delta Quadrant, per say. It's that VOY didn't open many doors suitable for a video game. Year of Hell would make a good FE, provided it was a standalone like the old FEs were. We have Liberated Borg all over the game, so it would make sense to have a mission with a story similar to Seven of Nine's. But for the most part, we don't need much VOY. Sure, the ships are canon and totally belong here. But do we really need Talaxians? We have real Klingons--is it necessary to add half-baked ones (a reference to the Kazon)? The Voth could have been something, but they were thoroughly butchered by Dyson. I think a mission about a mimetic organism would be interesting, but we already have Founders and whatnot.
So yeah, the epic focus on VOY (and based on the concept art we have, it will be VOY) seems a bit...too much. And I admit I didn't much like VOY but I make a point to binge watch the series every few years or so.
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Heartily seconded.
Far too often, the issue is with the information flow not the hard work of the devs.
There seems to be no capacity to learn from previous experience there.
Well to be honest, it was the playerbase that voted Voyager on that poll a year or so ago. So if you're gonna' blame anyone - blame the playerbase, or at least the part that logged in here and participated in the poll.
Alternatively, blame those who didn't log in and vote in the poll, as they're just as much to blame for the outcome, not least as there were probably a lot more who didn't vote at all than who voted for all of the options combined.
Too often people don't bother saying anything, until it's far too late.
You mean they actually payed attention to something we wanted? Wow. I honestly didn't see that coming. I still find it odd they would make an entire expansion over it. I can see Tuvok and the last FE. But after Dyson obliterated VOY (and aspects of TNG) I wouldn't imagine an a huge expansion dedicated to it. Still cool they bowed to someone other than the PvP crowd.
From discussions about the T5 Connie, the "original plan" was that "canon" ships were never to be available for "endgame" - partially because of the T5 Connie & NX issue, partially because of the Galaxy Syndrome (Galaxy should be amongst best of game)...
Someone screwed the pooch with the C-store seasons ago, and hence the TNG heroes being T5 retrofitted, but neither of the "old school canon" heroes (and not so heroes like Miranda)...
If T6 is supposed to be a "reset button" of sorts - making escorts back into glass cannons, science ships the pros at control, and tanking cruisers a necessity to keep the escorts and scis alive, then I expect whatever Dev originally wanted "no canon at endgame" will be back in force, and maybe even get the decree to stick this time...
Yet, you won't be "completely gimped" if you do want canon, because your T5 stuff will still "function", even without all the bells and whistles of T6. While I (half) jest about the T6 Connie in the STLV thread, if anything's gonna get us T5 Connies, it's this - because I forsee the DSD taking the lead in Sci, Oddessy or Avenger as Cruiser, and whatever non-canon escort is the highlight of T5 as the lead there, maybe even getting "freebie" versions, then the C-store will build out from there...
To rob a line: [quote: Mariemaia Kushrenada] Forum Posting is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever. However, opinions will change upon the reading of my post.[/quote]
The expansion isn't dedicated to Voyager, it's dedicated to the Delta Quadrant, which Voyager just happens to be the first Federation ship to have explored the Delta Quadrant and made it back to the Alpha Quadrant.
It would be stupid to explore the Delta Quadrant more and not take some of the most knowledgeable people A.K.A. people who have actually been there.
Do you want STO to simply ignore the Delta Quadrant simply because you don't like Voyager and it was there? Want to cut out a quarter of our galaxy because you didn't like the show that took place there?
They do that a lot more than you might think what with your pessimist-colored glasses on.
I'd say the problem is 40% the playerbase being idiots who don't really know what we want and 60% dev decisions that may or may not be bad but that we disagree with anyway.
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My issue isn't with the Delta Quadrant, per say. It's that VOY didn't open many doors suitable for a video game. Year of Hell would make a good FE, provided it was a standalone like the old FEs were. We have Liberated Borg all over the game, so it would make sense to have a mission with a story similar to Seven of Nine's. But for the most part, we don't need much VOY. Sure, the ships are canon and totally belong here. But do we really need Talaxians? We have real Klingons--is it necessary to add half-baked ones (a reference to the Kazon)? The Voth could have been something, but they were thoroughly butchered by Dyson. I think a mission about a mimetic organism would be interesting, but we already have Founders and whatnot.
So yeah, the epic focus on VOY (and based on the concept art we have, it will be VOY) seems a bit...too much. And I admit I didn't much like VOY but I make a point to binge watch the series every few years or so.