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subway7850subway7850 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited July 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Can someone tell me why the hell the captain has white shoulders?

and while I'm at it, why pins and not stars to show rank?
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    why the hell did captains used to wear yellow and sometimes green in TOS, then white with grey in the motion picture, then red from TNG, then some red and grey from first contact? colours change.

    and if they had stars could i then ask why they dont wear pins? its one or the other.
  • subway7850subway7850 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    captainrevo1 wrote: »
    why the hell did captains used to wear yellow and sometimes green in TOS, then white with grey in the motion picture, then red from TNG, then some red and grey from first contact? colours change.

    and if they had stars could i then ask why they dont wear pins? its one or the other.

    If you don't have an answer to my question then stay the fakk out of my thread!

    this is my kingdom and such as you aint wanted here
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    subway7850 wrote: »
    If you don't have an answer to my question then stay the fakk out of my thread!

    this is my kingdom and such as you aint wanted here

    Well maybe it's time you left the forums... If you can't handle a perfectly correct response to your question, then maybe forums isn't a place for you to be.

    So... off you go... Get lost.
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  • subway7850subway7850 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    hahahahhaha
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    subway7850 wrote: »
    hahahahhaha

    No no no no... Thats not a laugh...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhckuhUxcgA <- THATS a laugh.

    Can't even to that right, can ya?
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  • sumghaisumghai Member Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    If I may hazard a guess, I believe the white shoulders are to visually distinguish player captains from flag / BOff officer / enlisted NPCs, who have subdued colored shoulders.

    I initially questioned the logic of this, since having one's CO in a unique costume puts him/her at risk of being a victim of a decapitation strike targeting a ship / starbase's chain of command. After reading the official STO Starfleet Uniform Code, however, it turns out the devs justified this by making the Captain's Odyssey Tactical (i.e. Away Team) jackets identical to that of the senior officers, thereby sidestepping the "obvious captain is obvious" issue.
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  • subway7850subway7850 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    sumghai wrote: »
    If I may hazard a guess, I believe the white shoulders are to visually distinguish player captains from flag / BOff officer / enlisted NPCs, who have subdued colored shoulders.

    I initially questioned the logic of this, since having one's CO in a unique costume puts him/her at risk of being a victim of a decapitation strike targeting a ship / starbase's chain of command. After reading the official STO Starfleet Uniform Code, however, it turns out the devs justified this by making the Captain's Odyssey Tactical (i.e. Away Team) jackets identical to that of the senior officers, thereby sidestepping the "obvious captain is obvious" issue.

    True, but the Tactical set is for use when it is needed. it is not intended to be used at every away mission as I understood it.

    What if a mission turns hostile and the away team aint in the Tactical uniform?
    just as you said the capt. gonna be a target...
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    subway7850 wrote: »
    True, but the Tactical set is for use when it is needed. it is not intended to be used at every away mission as I understood it.

    What if a mission turns hostile and the away team aint in the Tactical uniform?
    just as you said the capt. gonna be a target...

    Well, then your probably SOL, as they say.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited July 2014
    subway7850 wrote: »
    Can someone tell me why the hell the captain has white shoulders?

    and while I'm at it, why pins and not stars to show rank?

    Most eras of Trek have had a separate captains variant, TOS tunic, TMP sleeveless, TWOK waistcoat, TNG the grey shirt and jacket, DS9 / FC the grey waistcoat.

    All trek rank pins have been pins (except the TOS ribbon, and TWOK emblems)
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    subway7850 wrote: »
    If you don't have an answer to my question then stay the fakk out of my thread!

    this is my kingdom and such as you aint wanted here

    I did answer your question, colour schemes change over time and have done through out all of trek histoty. what kind of other answer were you expecting?

    second, on a public forum i can post whenever, and wherever i like. sorry to trample all over your kingdom.
  • realwildblurealwildblu Member Posts: 75 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    subway7850 wrote: »
    Can someone tell me why the hell the captain has white shoulders?

    and while I'm at it, why pins and not stars to show rank?

    Just for clarification, you would prefer that they display five-point stars instead of rectangular pips? Traditionally, stars were only reserved for flag officers, except in in certain armed forces. Or do you want the TNG circular pips?
  • k20vteck20vtec Member Posts: 535 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    COZ they want to. Just like BMW designers want kidney grills for their cars, Lucas and Disney use TRIBBLE-looks for the empire, starfleet use round saucers etc etc.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,674 Community Moderator
    edited July 2014
    In Enterprise, Starfleet ranks were identified by squarish pips displayed on the chest. TOS, they were stripes/ribbons on the sleeve. TMP they combined the ribbons on the sleeves with insignia on the shoulders. TWoK through to TUC they used pins on the shoulder strap. TNG through Voyager they used round pips on the collar. in STO, they use retangular pips on the coller (Odyssey uniforms) or chest (Sierra/Antares/Jupiter).

    The only time stars were used to show rank is in modern militaries, and that is for Flag officers such as Generals and Admirals.
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  • chiyoumikuchiyoumiku Member Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Why does this matter? Because that's what our game's canon uniform code is. Oh and protip, insulting people who respond, only sinks yourself to their level.
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  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,941 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    and thank goodness no one has to wear uniforms a certain way if they don't want to!

    the toons I have in the new uniform are wearing them meduim gray. the black overtones are too gestapo-like for my tastes.
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  • jeffel82jeffel82 Member Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Don't like it? Don't wear it.
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  • cbrjwrrcbrjwrr Member Posts: 2,782 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    jeffel82 wrote: »
    Don't like it? Don't wear it.

    This, its optional.
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    subway7850 wrote: »
    Can someone tell me why the hell the captain has white shoulders?

    and while I'm at it, why pins and not stars to show rank?

    To give you the real answer, it's a reference to the ST: Destiny series of novels, and in them the Captains have white shoulders.

    Apparently we have a lot of jokers on this forum.
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