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In the last year or so Cryptic has taken some serious steps in 'modernizing' the look of the ships that are being released/launched. And to just name a few.
Odyssey Class
Tempest Class
Regent Class
Avenger Class
Granted. Some of these are refits/retrofits but they still accomplish the basic aesthetic look and by doing so bringing them into a more uniform appearance for Federation Starships. And I got to wondering if any of this would flow over into starter ships.
Now I know theres going to be people saying 'you only use those ships for a few levels, so it be a waste'. But considering the fact Cryptic has made moves to standardize the aesthetics of ships coming out now and that theyve standardized the uniform to be a default Odyssey Uniform.
It may be a long shot. But personally Id like to see more modernized Light Cruisers flying about out there along with the traditional Light Cruisers.
Odyssey Class
Tempest Class
Regent Class
Avenger Class
Granted. Some of these are refits/retrofits but they still accomplish the basic aesthetic look and by doing so bringing them into a more uniform appearance for Federation Starships. And I got to wondering if any of this would flow over into starter ships.
Now I know theres going to be people saying 'you only use those ships for a few levels, so it be a waste'. But considering the fact Cryptic has made moves to standardize the aesthetics of ships coming out now and that theyve standardized the uniform to be a default Odyssey Uniform.
It may be a long shot. But personally Id like to see more modernized Light Cruisers flying about out there along with the traditional Light Cruisers.
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Not me. I'd say it's a waste because you only use them for a few freaking minutes. -shrug-
Suffice to say I'd place this somewhere stickied in the last 5 items on the to-do list.
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Changing a few words doesnt change the point I made.
130+ year old ships are meant to look like 130+ year old ships.
So explain the Regent Class? Or the Venture Class? Both of which are retrofits of the Sovereign Class (2370s) and Galaxy Class (Late 2350s). Both of which are updated to be more inline with the aesthetics of 2409/2410. If the argument is 'old ships should look old'...Why are old ships like the Sovereign and Galaxy receiving updates? They should look old by your logic.
What point was that? That you want the decrepit old vessels specifically added to be "handed out" to raw recruits replaced with new, state-of-the-art vessels to be "handed out" to raw recruits?
It's not an accident or oversight that new characters aren't given the latest and greatest. They're handed the most patched-up hand-me-downs for a purpose: to save newer, more vital ships from "new captain error attrition."
Mwahahahahaa
*runs away*
Given the direction the game is going story wise the next vessel too be updated will be the Intrepid and her variants.
Well played.
If you think youre going to pull me into some circle of arguing over a point you most definitely understood by restating it with a few changed words...Youre mistaken.
My thread isnt about forcing this to happen. This is a forum where Im allowed to express my opinions as player and paying customer. My opinion is that while I know its not going to happen. I wouldnt mind seeing some light cruisers added with a new aesthetic.
If your argument is that 'the old ships are of no great loss if a Lt. gets it blown up'....The argument still rings true of a ship with nothing significantly different about it besides a new skin.
If they weren't updated versions of ships, then that would be true. They are actual new versions of ships. The Venture is an Exploration Refit. The Regent is a Sovereign Refit. It's not just artwork.
So you want a T1 500 ZEN Miranda Refit?
What if I did? How would that effect you?
It's a simple yes or no question...
"So you want a T1 500 ZEN Miranda Refit?"
I'll point to my OP...Theres your answer.
It's not there in your original post, though. That's the reason for the question. Here is your original post...
...and there is nothing explicitly stating that you want a T1 500 ZEN Light Cruiser Refit.
You could be asking for a costume option from the C-Store. You could be asking for a free costume being added to the ships. You could be asking for quite a few things...
...so what are you actually asking be done/be made available?
Stop being so obtuse, defensive, and grow the Hell up...it's a simple freakin' question.
Amusing. Vaguely, but amusing.
I know, right?
At this point. It doesnt matter if you cant make heads or tails of it. It doesnt make a difference if the Devs released the Aesthetic for free or they applied a 500 ZEN price tag to it. That would be their prerogative. My OP was simply expressing something Id wish to see. Whether it has a price tag or not does not matter.
There's going to be a lot of work involved for it not to have a price tag. Even then, a T1 price tag for something that will involve the same amount of work as a T5 price tag...is going to be pushing it, no?
You'd have the kitbash itself. The various components would have to match up with the current kitbash options. You're going to need to make sure that all the current skins (not just from the current kitbashes, but also all the gear visuals) fit all the various customizations and not look goofy. Then you'd have the new skin, that you'd have to make sure doesn't look goofy on the various kitbash customizations involved. All of it will have to work with the FX unless you're going to add in the cost of additional FX customization. You're also going to need to come up with some gimmick console to go along with the ship.
It's work...it's not waving a magic wand.
So for the work to be able to be justified and get a place on the schedule, it's going to have to cover the work as well as generate a profit on that work...as would any other work that was done.
Do they do a T1 Refit at 500 ZEN or do they do another T5 Refit or even a new T5 ship...that's going to go for 2000-2500 ZEN? Where those T5 Refit/Retrofit goodies would also work with a Fleet Version? So folks would be more inclined to make that purchase?
In the end, perhaps none of that matters to you - and - that's kind of the vibe that you're giving. Just a "I think this would be cool" sort of thing...without worrying about what might be involved.
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Why? It knows that it is a Refit...that it is a newer ship. Why don't you?
I mean, you know...it's kind of a "thing" that Cryptic's got going there.
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Frigates?
Escort-Destroyers?
Mine Layers?
Picket Ships?
Trading Vessels?
Klingon Science Ship? (ok,ok, almost kidding on this one)
If they're anything like the Aquarius, DO NOT WANT.
Anyone can be a mine layer at the momemt? Unless we're talking fused aft mines. Be kinda cool.
wat
If STO would get its head out of its aft and expand its main gameplay to include something other than combat. Then hella yeah.
DO WANT x10
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Federation learning from the Romulans etc. So Yeah can see it happening and would buy it.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
The older ships that look like the older ships would not be the Refits that do not look like older ships...would they?
It would require less work and generate more revenue than doing a T1 Refit.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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t5 miranda ftw! :P
couldnt resist.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
If you want to discuss what looks the same or not, I'm probably gonna need a good idea on what similarity level you're using to judge what looks like what.
In either case, I was operating under the assumption that the OP wanted a refit to the Miranda similar to what the Exeter is to the Connie.
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