I've never played a character to max level on the Klingon side for a simple reason, I dislike the asthetics of the faction.
It would be nice if there were some "modern" uniform options.
Less eye straining red lights.
Qo'nos is nice quality, but stone fires and a forge that looks like it should be making horseshoes really doesn't scream warp capable species.
And from a story checkpoint be a little less one dimensional with the constant warmongering rhetoric*. Also the non-stop blather about honor. Yes, I know they were very 1 note characters in the tv shows and movies, but Cryptic should take them beyond that.
*I assume that by default must tone down in the later FEs.
Personally it's the things you hate that make them unique as a faction. I don't think the KDF would be as fun if they weren't the way they are now. It's a nice change from the birght modern Federation.
That is how their race is, and if you don't like it, don't play it.
Personally it's the things you hate that make them unique as a faction. I don't think the KDF would be as fun if they weren't the way they are now. It's a nice change from the birght modern Federation.
That is how their race is, and if you don't like it, don't play it.
If people want the Klinks to get attention from the devs they should be looking for ways to attract others to playing it.
I've never played a character to max level on the Klingon side for a simple reason, I dislike the asthetics of the faction.
It would be nice if there were some "modern" uniform options.
Less eye straining red lights.
Qo'nos is nice quality, but stone fires and a forge that looks like it should be making horseshoes really doesn't scream warp capable species.
And from a story checkpoint be a little less one dimensional with the constant warmongering rhetoric*. Also the non-stop blather about honor. Yes, I know they were very 1 note characters in the tv shows and movies, but Cryptic should take them beyond that.
*I assume that by default must tone down in the later FEs.
you got a point OP, i made several points about this as well in another thread, but you seem to forget is that ST fans(most fans really, but ST ones deserve special mention) HATE any change whatsoever and also a fair bit of klingon playerbase is the same kind of folks who actually enjoy playing a run-down gritty "warrior" faction/whatever(which somehow happens to be far more powerful than it should be), with all the ridiculous "my faction is better than yours" that come with it.
the funny thing is that is totally possible to still keep the gritty/warrior aesthetics while still making them more advanced, but doing so would probably TRIBBLE off the playerbase.
your complaints scream anthropocentric racism, hubris and superficial pageantry of the federation. how typical for the philosophy of IDIC to only be applied as it suits.
"doesn't scream warp capable", because they dont create recycled plastic monuments, and value the craftsmanship of hand forged blades? really.
... you do however, reference a long standing issue about the limited pool of uniform options for the kdf.
i.... what? i guess this is an example of what i talked about.
I would agree, they do seem to be the same as when they were first introduced. The Feds in sto have grown and evolved more both in style of design and manner. Klinks are still gruff and old school. Yes, thats what makes them Klinks, but I feel they need to modernize a little..
I sort of agree with the OP, in certain regards. However, I actually like the Qo'noS look. It's the dreadlocks and horrid green lumps of metal they call ships that I take issue with.
Then again, I doubt the Klingon faction is salvageable at this point. Best to just let the Undine nuke the planet. And every Klingon colony. It wouldn't take long before one of the other, more competent races in their coalition took charge.
What a terrible idea, the aesthetic design of the Klingons has been established since the early days of TNG and many people are fans of it and its part of the reason people play Klingon.
The KDF totally does need new, better and canonical uniforms though.
lmfao wow talk stab to the core good one this made rofl
Lets see...WoW that game where I have one level 87 character and haven't played at all in months and only have minimal playtime in the entire existence of the game...as noted by having one level 87 character.
If people want the Klinks to get attention from the devs they should be looking for ways to attract others to playing it.
They can by expanding on the KDF. Some more ships, uniforms, etc. on the scale the Feds currently have.
Take a look at the Klingon sets in the shows and movies. Reds, oranges, colors along those lines were the predominant ones. The uniforms were more varied in the colors, to include the blacks, browns, and of course, grey from TOS & TNG era uniforms.
But do not make the KDF a "Federation-lite" like they did with the Romulans.
hey...fine with me....hope you enjoy my Federation content scraps.
If you mean buggy, poorly written and thought out, bland, generic POV missions like they always have been, to include even the more recent Dyson and FE missions, then by all means, I don't give a ****.
no... I like klingons being klingons. except tos klingons have always wore armor, granted one or two feddie style wouldn't hurt. but as a whole that should be mostly like the ones on the shows.
and the whole asthetics being not fed style is one of the pluses. if I wanted to be a starfleet klingon I would roll one.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Honestly, I like the overall look of the Klingons, I dont want them to change too drastically. However I do agree that maybe they should add some variety. Some new uniforms would be a good start. But the aesthetics arent the Klinks biggest issue right now.
It would be nice if the Klingons in this game were like the original, interesting Klingons, before TMP and TSFS made them into generic ugly people and TNG further ruined them. But that's wishful thinking.
It would be nice if the Klingons in this game were like the original, interesting Klingons, before TMP and TSFS made them into generic ugly people and TNG further ruined them. But that's wishful thinking.
you mean random mooks for kirk to beat up... no I prefer TNG. they at the very least have a culture. one I personally find far more interesting then the "perfect utopian society" of the federation. which compared to the "primitive society" makes even less sense.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
If people want the Klinks to get attention from the devs they should be looking for ways to attract others to playing it.
I don't want attention if it destroys the identity. I like it the way it is other than allowing people to play kdf side but still act like feddy bears.
Trophies for killing FEDS ahh those were the days.
I don't want attention if it destroys the identity. I like it the way it is other than allowing people to play kdf side but still act like feddy bears.
The identity is a one note species that would have imploded centuries before achieving space travel...not that they would have even cared about space travel.
The identity is a one note species that would have imploded centuries before achieving space travel...not that they would have even cared about space travel.
better the a one not species that would be enslaved or killed by the first non friendly species.
see I can be a hater to.
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you mean random mooks for kirk to beat up... no I prefer TNG. they at the very least have a culture. one I personally find far more interesting then the "perfect utopian society" of the federation. which compared to the "primitive society" makes even less sense.
The culture is...moderately okay. It's just that TOS-era Klinks actually had some subtlety, and had a few IQ points on the average gopher. But honestly, a lot of it is just that dreadlock!Klinks are so horribly unpleasant to look at, and so are their ships. Feels like I'm in a sauna. HIRE A SHIP DESIGNER, GOWRON.
The old grey ships were nice and slick, and so was the whole goatee/sash/beige vest look.
The culture is...moderately okay. It's just that TOS-era Klinks actually had some subtlety, and had a few IQ points on the average gopher. But honestly, a lot of it is just that dreadlock!Klinks are so horribly unpleasant to look at, and so are their ships. Feels like I'm in a sauna. HIRE A SHIP DESIGNER, GOWRON.
The old grey ships were nice and slick, and so was the whole goatee/sash/beige vest look.
do me a big favor go which klingon focused episodes again pay special attention to ones about the high council.
the rest not something we can argue because it is opinion therefor nether right nor wrong.
however I feel the need to point out klingon are not supposed to be "pretty." I personally find the women fairly easy on the eyes. and aesthetically I prefer the more manly/gritty look too the sanitize look.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
I've never played a character to max level on the Klingon side for a simple reason, I dislike the asthetics of the faction.
It would be nice if there were some "modern" uniform options.
Less eye straining red lights.
Qo'nos is nice quality, but stone fires and a forge that looks like it should be making horseshoes really doesn't scream warp capable species.
And from a story checkpoint be a little less one dimensional with the constant warmongering rhetoric*. Also the non-stop blather about honor. Yes, I know they were very 1 note characters in the tv shows and movies, but Cryptic should take them beyond that.
*I assume that by default must tone down in the later FEs.
only thing i will say, get used to it. these are klingons, safety is not of paramount concern to them, only what is efficient. their primary colors are dark grey and red, it always will be.
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
I've never played a character to max level on the Klingon side for a simple reason, I dislike the asthetics of the faction.
It would be nice if there were some "modern" uniform options.
Less eye straining red lights.
Qo'nos is nice quality, but stone fires and a forge that looks like it should be making horseshoes really doesn't scream warp capable species.
And from a story checkpoint be a little less one dimensional with the constant warmongering rhetoric*. Also the non-stop blather about honor. Yes, I know they were very 1 note characters in the tv shows and movies, but Cryptic should take them beyond that.
*I assume that by default must tone down in the later FEs.
The eye straining red lights are kind of stuck there, but as far as uniforms, go check out the Tailor. There are a number of armor and kit piece unlocks that were applied cross-faction, which means you can wear sleek combat armor with the metal sash and armored spine of the TNG era Klingons. Also, try asking for a Mine or Spire invite somewhere to get those costume options and grab some shades on Risa. There is a way to look more "modern" as far as uniforms, if you go to the trouble of doing so.
Try using the default Stealth uniform option, then switch:
Upper - Suit - Klg Gamma Type 2
Sash - Klingon Sash T05 01
Shoulder Pad Left/Right - Kit - Klg Tac Soldier 1 (color palate is bugged, so just make them white)
Collar - Kit - Klg Security 1
Chest Gear - Kit - Klg Scientist 3
Chest Gear Accessory - suggest A17 (to be all shiny with your shoulder pads)
Back - Klingon Spine Armor (Worf knows why)
Belt - Klingon TOS
Lower - Suit - Klg Gamma 2
Add some Sunglasses Small Round and you look somewhat more "modern" while not being silly enough to walk around in combat without armor on. If you really want to, you can even brighten up the tone on your armor by making the whole darn thing shiny white for goodness with pink gloweys, but that's a bit of an eyesore... though they did give a glowey Nanopulse Edge Bat'leth [Pur] a couple years back if you want one to match your pink glowey bits :P
Yes, the KDF could use more costume options (I suppose the Bortasqu' uniform is on the way). Yes, the KDF could use bridges to match our Gorn, Nausicaan, and Orion allies and ships. Heck, I'd love to see a ship lineup to match that other faction in the game... but abandoning the entire faction identity seems like a waste of a faction.
With each passing day I wonder if I stepped into an alternate reality. The Cubs win the world series. Donald Trump is President. Britain leaves the EU. STO gets a dedicated PvP season. Engineers are "out of control" in STO.
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That is how their race is, and if you don't like it, don't play it.
this^^^^^^^^^^
system Lord Baal is dead
If people want the Klinks to get attention from the devs they should be looking for ways to attract others to playing it.
Yeah, still going with "No." If you can't cut it, back to your prissy Fed ships with you and good riddance. :cool:
you got a point OP, i made several points about this as well in another thread, but you seem to forget is that ST fans(most fans really, but ST ones deserve special mention) HATE any change whatsoever and also a fair bit of klingon playerbase is the same kind of folks who actually enjoy playing a run-down gritty "warrior" faction/whatever(which somehow happens to be far more powerful than it should be), with all the ridiculous "my faction is better than yours" that come with it.
the funny thing is that is totally possible to still keep the gritty/warrior aesthetics while still making them more advanced, but doing so would probably TRIBBLE off the playerbase.
i.... what? i guess this is an example of what i talked about.
Then again, I doubt the Klingon faction is salvageable at this point. Best to just let the Undine nuke the planet. And every Klingon colony. It wouldn't take long before one of the other, more competent races in their coalition took charge.
*eyes turn red, evil grin*
TONIGHT...I FEEEAAAAST...
if its too red for you poor lil eyes there are ways to fix that player side just saying
but then again i forget ppl get lost in exploration missions so that may be a bit over some heads
system Lord Baal is dead
The KDF totally does need new, better and canonical uniforms though.
hey...fine with me....hope you enjoy my Federation content scraps.
lmfao wow talk stab to the core good one this made rofl
system Lord Baal is dead
Lets see...WoW that game where I have one level 87 character and haven't played at all in months and only have minimal playtime in the entire existence of the game...as noted by having one level 87 character.
They can by expanding on the KDF. Some more ships, uniforms, etc. on the scale the Feds currently have.
Take a look at the Klingon sets in the shows and movies. Reds, oranges, colors along those lines were the predominant ones. The uniforms were more varied in the colors, to include the blacks, browns, and of course, grey from TOS & TNG era uniforms.
But do not make the KDF a "Federation-lite" like they did with the Romulans.
To hell with that.
If you mean buggy, poorly written and thought out, bland, generic POV missions like they always have been, to include even the more recent Dyson and FE missions, then by all means, I don't give a ****.
i still cry at night for what cryptic turn the romulan into a Bajoran Rebel Alliance
system Lord Baal is dead
and the whole asthetics being not fed style is one of the pluses. if I wanted to be a starfleet klingon I would roll one.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Considering CBS forced them to take the JJ verse as cannon, I think they did a good job with the Republic with Romulus and Remus being destroyed.
Anyone want to give me a Temporal Heavy Dreadnought pack? I'll be your friend
you mean random mooks for kirk to beat up... no I prefer TNG. they at the very least have a culture. one I personally find far more interesting then the "perfect utopian society" of the federation. which compared to the "primitive society" makes even less sense.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
I don't want attention if it destroys the identity. I like it the way it is other than allowing people to play kdf side but still act like feddy bears.
The identity is a one note species that would have imploded centuries before achieving space travel...not that they would have even cared about space travel.
better the a one not species that would be enslaved or killed by the first non friendly species.
see I can be a hater to.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
The culture is...moderately okay. It's just that TOS-era Klinks actually had some subtlety, and had a few IQ points on the average gopher. But honestly, a lot of it is just that dreadlock!Klinks are so horribly unpleasant to look at, and so are their ships. Feels like I'm in a sauna. HIRE A SHIP DESIGNER, GOWRON.
The old grey ships were nice and slick, and so was the whole goatee/sash/beige vest look.
do me a big favor go which klingon focused episodes again pay special attention to ones about the high council.
the rest not something we can argue because it is opinion therefor nether right nor wrong.
however I feel the need to point out klingon are not supposed to be "pretty." I personally find the women fairly easy on the eyes. and aesthetically I prefer the more manly/gritty look too the sanitize look.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
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peace
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if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
only thing i will say, get used to it. these are klingons, safety is not of paramount concern to them, only what is efficient. their primary colors are dark grey and red, it always will be.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
The eye straining red lights are kind of stuck there, but as far as uniforms, go check out the Tailor. There are a number of armor and kit piece unlocks that were applied cross-faction, which means you can wear sleek combat armor with the metal sash and armored spine of the TNG era Klingons. Also, try asking for a Mine or Spire invite somewhere to get those costume options and grab some shades on Risa. There is a way to look more "modern" as far as uniforms, if you go to the trouble of doing so.
Try using the default Stealth uniform option, then switch:
Upper - Suit - Klg Gamma Type 2
Sash - Klingon Sash T05 01
Shoulder Pad Left/Right - Kit - Klg Tac Soldier 1 (color palate is bugged, so just make them white)
Collar - Kit - Klg Security 1
Chest Gear - Kit - Klg Scientist 3
Chest Gear Accessory - suggest A17 (to be all shiny with your shoulder pads)
Back - Klingon Spine Armor (Worf knows why)
Belt - Klingon TOS
Lower - Suit - Klg Gamma 2
Add some Sunglasses Small Round and you look somewhat more "modern" while not being silly enough to walk around in combat without armor on. If you really want to, you can even brighten up the tone on your armor by making the whole darn thing shiny white for goodness with pink gloweys, but that's a bit of an eyesore... though they did give a glowey Nanopulse Edge Bat'leth [Pur] a couple years back if you want one to match your pink glowey bits :P
Yes, the KDF could use more costume options (I suppose the Bortasqu' uniform is on the way). Yes, the KDF could use bridges to match our Gorn, Nausicaan, and Orion allies and ships. Heck, I'd love to see a ship lineup to match that other faction in the game... but abandoning the entire faction identity seems like a waste of a faction.