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  • tekehdtekehd Member Posts: 2,032 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    macfelly wrote: »
    Thing is launchers for companies that have multiple games isn't a new thing. The crazy people on the forums, that make up rumors about viruses and spyware show that they are just that, crazy. Really it just helps us know who to avoid in-game. :D

    Crazy and also amatures operating far outside of their expertise in computers...... As soon as someone brings up their classification of something based upon what some other piece of software (like an adware or virus scanner) told them, it's safe to assume their expertise is zero.... as a professional would not use a scanner to determine if something was spyware or a virus.
  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    tekehd wrote: »
    Crazy and also amatures operating far outside of their expertise in computers...... As soon as someone brings up their classification of something based upon what some other piece of software (like an adware or virus scanner) told them, it's safe to assume their expertise is zero.... as a professional would not use a scanner to determine if something was spyware or a virus.
    Yes, those scanners are full of false positives. Why, once it decided something I wrote was spyware. I, of course, had included no networking functionality within that program, so there was no possible way for it to return data home to its masters. It was simply physically impossible for it to be spyware, as it had no means of returning the spied data back to me even if it collected any (which it didn't), and I'd know everything that was in that program because I wrote the entire thing myself. Those scanners are simply bunkus.
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  • dukeskyloaferdukeskyloafer Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Not really. I see no evidence to believe otherwise when it comes to this "Steam" business. It's a form of insidious spyware coupled to a distribution platform. That many may have come to naively accept it and its monitoring habits does not change the facts. The simple fact of the matter is that it monitors your activities and contents of your computer, and then phones them home. This is spyware. I don't care what justification they attempt to feed me, this behavior is spying, pure and simple. The fact that they try to paint this behavior as benign and even helpful makes it INSIDIOUS spyware.

    Sure, you could not start it automatically, but remember: It worms itself into all your games, making it practically mandatory to start it unless you resort to shady means of excising it. Once you have done so, it commences...the SPYING. It tells its masters when you are playing. What you are playing. What's on your computer. And godknowswhat else. It is an evil, evil piece of spyware that does not belong on my computer.

    Steam is actually not spyware. Part of the definition of spyware is that you don't know that it's collecting your data. Steam is very open about the fact that it's watching what you do. You can even see your statistics in the app and online. It's only watching you when you are playing Steam games, it only scans your computer if you ask it to look for non-Steam apps, and it only reports back on your hardware if you opt in. So, it's not spying if they tell you they are doing it.

    I'm not saying you shouldn't worry about it or that you should definitely install it, I just think you're abusing the word "spyware" for dramatic effect.
  • kimmymkimmym Member Posts: 1,317 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I will never understand the people who decry ARC as the devil while whining that their Steam might be effected.

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  • belidosbelidos Member Posts: 452 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Steam is actually not spyware. Part of the definition of spyware is that you don't know that it's collecting your data. Steam is very open about the fact that it's watching what you do. You can even see your statistics in the app and online. It's only watching you when you are playing Steam games, it only scans your computer if you ask it to look for non-Steam apps, and it only reports back on your hardware if you opt in. So, it's not spying if they tell you they are doing it.

    I'm not saying you shouldn't worry about it or that you should definitely install it, I just think you're abusing the word "spyware" for dramatic effect.

    I've had similar with malware bytes, it told me that a shortcut desktop link I had made for the "shut down" command was malware lol
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