hank you are fos you were never a friend of isc only TRIBBLE slobbing cheating hector. you guys got caught and its a fact. your good buddy hector brought your programmer in and showed us how you did it so please stop with the lies man you can never ever fix your tarnished rep in this game. and the isc was as good as anyone pvping exept they didn't write scripts.and we chose not to fight cheaters. I guess your still a legend in your own mind huh. and the reason hector showed us everything is he was trying to burn the pandas for cheating he was trying to get us in league with him 25 witnesses on ts when it went down it was recorded and devs brought in to listen to the recordings stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
hank you are fos you were never a friend of isc only TRIBBLE slobbing cheating hector. you guys got caught and its a fact. your good buddy hector brought your programmer in and showed us how you did it so please stop with the lies man you can never ever fix your tarnished rep in this game. and the isc was as good as anyone pvping exept they didn't write scripts.and we chose not to fight cheaters. I guess your still a legend in your own mind huh. and the reason hector showed us everything is he was trying to burn the pandas for cheating he was trying to get us in league with him 25 witnesses on ts when it went down it was recorded and devs brought in to listen to the recordings stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
People seriously still cannot let any of that go? Wow...
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
hank you are fos you were never a friend of isc only TRIBBLE slobbing cheating hector. you guys got caught and its a fact. your good buddy hector brought your programmer in and showed us how you did it so please stop with the lies man you can never ever fix your tarnished rep in this game. and the isc was as good as anyone pvping exept they didn't write scripts.and we chose not to fight cheaters. I guess your still a legend in your own mind huh. and the reason hector showed us everything is he was trying to burn the pandas for cheating he was trying to get us in league with him 25 witnesses on ts when it went down it was recorded and devs brought in to listen to the recordings stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
Heh that's a lot of crazy cramped into a single paragraph lol. From the content I have a pretty good idea now who you are or at least what fleet you are/were in.
Fleets are social constructs. Members of a fleet are hanging out together, playing together, maintain relations, they like or dislike each other and so on.
Social interactions within a fleet and between fleets can be very fascinating. It is also very fascinating how leading members of a fleet can shape the general social "tone" how people treat each other or how they treat outsiders; it can swing both ways, constructive or destructive.
At one point, I was occupying the leaders' position of one the biggest german fleets in the game, with hundreds of active players. There I learnt how even a very small number of crazy people can have a very destructive effect on the social health of a fleet. I can only recommend to all other fleet leaders to deal with such issues quickly and swiftly. Now.
Even worse, there is no hard mechanism in place that would prevent sociopaths to create a fleet and recruit members. In some cases, if the madness within such fleets spirals out of control, it might self-destruct.
So when vital members started to leave the ISC fleet to join another one, well of course it is more convenient to blame someone else for it. It certainly didn't have anything to do with the madness in that fleet, right? :rolleyes:
Naturally, good relations then turn into bad relations, since we were the scapegoat.
Based on your remarks it is obvious with which fleet you are (or have been) affiliated. I don't know how to skate around it, so I am going to say it directly: That fleet had some serious leadership issues. Like having crazy sociapaths as leaders. People that would rather foster insane conspiracy theories about outsiders than just to not admit own shortcomings etc.
Reasoning with such people is a futile exercise. That would be a job for professionals, medical/psychological ones. Hector and Naz made the mistake trying to reason with nutjobs, trying to explain them stuff. It didn't turn out well, because the people they sought out to dialogue with, were FREAKING nutjobs. When Naz wrote me in a PM that he talked to you guys, I asked him "you know the're crazy, right?" He replied, "Now I know".
If I am allowed to sneak in another little jab: Your fleet sucked badly in PvP and was nothing more than a side-joke. Whereas other fleets were practising alpha/nuke combos and sharing tac-teams, breaking extends etc, their definition of good teamwork was yelling expletives towards each other on teamspeak. Whenever your glory days might have been, it was long over before F2P.
There are a good number of videos on youtube btw, if you find proof of cheating in any of our matches let me know.
Not forcing anyone to do anything, it's just the honorable thing to do.
I'd like to add another entry into the code of conduct:
15. If you are in a PvP fleet and are challenged by another fleet/team to a match, do not dodge said challenge or make excuses. If both teams/fleets have enough players online, the challenge should be promptly accepted and played. If not, a date and time should be scheduled for the match in the near future.
I never expected Pandas to break this code of conduct rule that all reputable pvp fleets live by. Last week I asked Raumpatroillie Elysion for a match, they accepted, and we played the very next weekend. Pandas have always accepted challenges in the past with no hesitation (although maybe with a little haggling over the rules) and it's truly a shame that this is what their fleet has become just because a few of the veterans left.
I'm done trying to poke, prod and goad you guys into fighting. If y'all ever want a match you know where to find us.
It has been dead for decades I tell y'all, DECADES!!!! :rolleyes:
When Nixon took over the White House, PvP died, everyone playing since then are noobs who would get pwnd by the pre-1970'pros (real skill pvp, EGA 320x240)!
It's me. I'm the reason he's been playing again. You can hate me now.
Why would I do that. CaptainHorizan is a very classy and humble player. Every time he has taken me out to the woodshed in the past and beaten me silly - he was always polite/humble and helpful to questions afterward - everything you would hope for in a Veteran player:)
hank you are fos you were never a friend of isc only TRIBBLE slobbing cheating hector. you guys got caught and its a fact. your good buddy hector brought your programmer in and showed us how you did it so please stop with the lies man you can never ever fix your tarnished rep in this game. and the isc was as good as anyone pvping exept they didn't write scripts.and we chose not to fight cheaters. I guess your still a legend in your own mind huh. and the reason hector showed us everything is he was trying to burn the pandas for cheating he was trying to get us in league with him 25 witnesses on ts when it went down it was recorded and devs brought in to listen to the recordings stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
all right now it is getting clear why yoda left ISC if i see some of those guys writing real bull**** and nonsense about other people being trustworthy to 100% and having an exemplary behaviour as opposed to 99% of the other guys here hanging around and trying to harm the reputation of people who achieved alot the past few years in that game. I can speak of my own experience for what he has done to make IC for what it is right now. I am pretty sure that you are only jealous for what he is capable of performing thats why you attempt to humiliate him huh?
You claimed and accused us for being cheaters in pvp but you only blame yourself with that statement. Just take a look on our STO pvp channel in youtube and watch our matches, there you are able to see if we are cheating or not. Since those matches aren't censored you are able to watch all the abilities utilized during combat.
Skurf, remember the last time you provoked the sleeping ones long enough? It lead to you leaving the game for a while like a Saaaaaad Panda
You don't want that to happen again permanently do ya? :P
To be honest with you, most of us have been overtaken by RL. Yeah, really. Real life got the better of us. Since the birth of my daughter, STO has taken not even the back seat. Hell it got uninstalled off my PC at the end of lastt year i think. This forum is about as close to STO as i get.
With the state PvP is in, any point coming back? Even crafting has taken priority over PvP. Doesn't that tell you something? PvP is like an after thought now with little scraps thrown out here and there. Just enough to keep you tempted, but never enough to truly fulfil your PvP fix.
If you want all out PvP, and really want to chest pound, try a serious ground up PvP game like MWO or War Thunder.
I left Star ****izen out by purpose. If the launch module is anything to go by after the millions people have thrown at it, i feel sorry for the individuals that spent thousands on it. Considered Elite instead?
Have fun and keep kicking that (almost) dead donkey Skurf. Reminds me of the last time you did it. Thanks for bringing a smile to me. Fun times, fun times indeed they were
Tell ya what Skurf, in your spirit, i'm gonna lay down a challenge to TSI. TSI come out come out wherever you are. Time to be schooled in PvP.
panda played too much vapers and now everyone have counter to that vapers team ! they know how they was bad with persistent escort, so thats the real reason why you dont see your panda
panda played too much vapers and now everyone have counter to that vapers team ! they know how they was bad with persistent escort, so thats the real reason why you dont see your panda
Short term memory I take it. Plenty of YouTube video to say otherwise......
Talking about memory, now I remember how much fun forum wars for sto is compared to in game pew
panda played too much vapers and now everyone have counter to that vapers team ! they know how they was bad with persistent escort, so thats the real reason why you dont see your panda
Yeah, because people like Horizon, Fook and MT were just horrible in their persistents, lololol.
Skurf, remember the last time you provoked the sleeping ones long enough? It lead to you leaving the game for a while like a Saaaaaad Panda
You don't want that to happen again permanently do ya? :P
Amazing the ego on you. You think I left because losing a PvP match against you? Wow, just wow. You know what I remember? The last time you guys actually accepted my challenge. This time it's just excuse after excuse. The challenge wasn't even directed at you. You're gone, and that's fine. It was directed at the Pandas that stilll play the game, which there are still quite a few. I see them in the pug queues every day.
It's not like you're the only team I challenge. I've challenged pretty much every PvP fleet in the game at some point or another because guess what, I like to have fun challenging PvP matches. And you know what, almost every single one of them accepted the challenge, except for Vice Squad and now Sad Pandas. Great company you keep there.
...blah blah blah, excuse after excuse for the rest of your post....
Do you really need six paragraphs to say you're a *****?
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People seriously still cannot let any of that go? Wow...
Stop stealing my stuff.
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Heh that's a lot of crazy cramped into a single paragraph lol. From the content I have a pretty good idea now who you are or at least what fleet you are/were in.
Fleets are social constructs. Members of a fleet are hanging out together, playing together, maintain relations, they like or dislike each other and so on.
Social interactions within a fleet and between fleets can be very fascinating. It is also very fascinating how leading members of a fleet can shape the general social "tone" how people treat each other or how they treat outsiders; it can swing both ways, constructive or destructive.
At one point, I was occupying the leaders' position of one the biggest german fleets in the game, with hundreds of active players. There I learnt how even a very small number of crazy people can have a very destructive effect on the social health of a fleet. I can only recommend to all other fleet leaders to deal with such issues quickly and swiftly. Now.
Even worse, there is no hard mechanism in place that would prevent sociopaths to create a fleet and recruit members. In some cases, if the madness within such fleets spirals out of control, it might self-destruct.
So when vital members started to leave the ISC fleet to join another one, well of course it is more convenient to blame someone else for it. It certainly didn't have anything to do with the madness in that fleet, right? :rolleyes:
Naturally, good relations then turn into bad relations, since we were the scapegoat.
Based on your remarks it is obvious with which fleet you are (or have been) affiliated. I don't know how to skate around it, so I am going to say it directly: That fleet had some serious leadership issues. Like having crazy sociapaths as leaders. People that would rather foster insane conspiracy theories about outsiders than just to not admit own shortcomings etc.
Reasoning with such people is a futile exercise. That would be a job for professionals, medical/psychological ones. Hector and Naz made the mistake trying to reason with nutjobs, trying to explain them stuff. It didn't turn out well, because the people they sought out to dialogue with, were FREAKING nutjobs. When Naz wrote me in a PM that he talked to you guys, I asked him "you know the're crazy, right?" He replied, "Now I know".
If I am allowed to sneak in another little jab: Your fleet sucked badly in PvP and was nothing more than a side-joke. Whereas other fleets were practising alpha/nuke combos and sharing tac-teams, breaking extends etc, their definition of good teamwork was yelling expletives towards each other on teamspeak. Whenever your glory days might have been, it was long over before F2P.
There are a good number of videos on youtube btw, if you find proof of cheating in any of our matches let me know.
@DevolvedOne
Show Meeeeee!
PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
I'd like to add another entry into the code of conduct:
15. If you are in a PvP fleet and are challenged by another fleet/team to a match, do not dodge said challenge or make excuses. If both teams/fleets have enough players online, the challenge should be promptly accepted and played. If not, a date and time should be scheduled for the match in the near future.
I never expected Pandas to break this code of conduct rule that all reputable pvp fleets live by. Last week I asked Raumpatroillie Elysion for a match, they accepted, and we played the very next weekend. Pandas have always accepted challenges in the past with no hesitation (although maybe with a little haggling over the rules) and it's truly a shame that this is what their fleet has become just because a few of the veterans left.
I'm done trying to poke, prod and goad you guys into fighting. If y'all ever want a match you know where to find us.
@DevolvedOne
70's TRIBBLE moustaches were very OP.
R.I.P
Good match.
It was Q.Q. vs Q.Q. Best match since -QEW- vs TSI in final tourney.
Was that super classy player: CaptainHorizan on the team? I have seen him in game a bit lately;)
Isn't that pretty much what you where told when you started this ?
I think it was made clear that many are not around and those that are... really aren't playing premade matches like that anymore.
It's me. I'm the reason he's been playing again. You can hate me now.
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Why would I do that. CaptainHorizan is a very classy and humble player. Every time he has taken me out to the woodshed in the past and beaten me silly - he was always polite/humble and helpful to questions afterward - everything you would hope for in a Veteran player:)
all right now it is getting clear why yoda left ISC if i see some of those guys writing real bull**** and nonsense about other people being trustworthy to 100% and having an exemplary behaviour as opposed to 99% of the other guys here hanging around and trying to harm the reputation of people who achieved alot the past few years in that game. I can speak of my own experience for what he has done to make IC for what it is right now. I am pretty sure that you are only jealous for what he is capable of performing thats why you attempt to humiliate him huh?
You claimed and accused us for being cheaters in pvp but you only blame yourself with that statement. Just take a look on our STO pvp channel in youtube and watch our matches, there you are able to see if we are cheating or not. Since those matches aren't censored you are able to watch all the abilities utilized during combat.
-=Hannibal - Inner Circle PvP-Department=-
Hannibal's YouTube PvP-channel (under construction)
More Inner Circle PvP-Action worth watching from: Hank, Mira Theng and Zimbilimbim
PVE FTW
- Gohan (House of Beautiful /Sad Pandas)
Yes. Five Pandas logged in and the servers crashed and Cryptic couldn't get them back up. Gaem is ded. RIP in TRIBBLE.
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Skurf, remember the last time you provoked the sleeping ones long enough? It lead to you leaving the game for a while like a Saaaaaad Panda
You don't want that to happen again permanently do ya? :P
To be honest with you, most of us have been overtaken by RL. Yeah, really. Real life got the better of us. Since the birth of my daughter, STO has taken not even the back seat. Hell it got uninstalled off my PC at the end of lastt year i think. This forum is about as close to STO as i get.
With the state PvP is in, any point coming back? Even crafting has taken priority over PvP. Doesn't that tell you something? PvP is like an after thought now with little scraps thrown out here and there. Just enough to keep you tempted, but never enough to truly fulfil your PvP fix.
If you want all out PvP, and really want to chest pound, try a serious ground up PvP game like MWO or War Thunder.
I left Star ****izen out by purpose. If the launch module is anything to go by after the millions people have thrown at it, i feel sorry for the individuals that spent thousands on it. Considered Elite instead?
Have fun and keep kicking that (almost) dead donkey Skurf. Reminds me of the last time you did it. Thanks for bringing a smile to me. Fun times, fun times indeed they were
Tell ya what Skurf, in your spirit, i'm gonna lay down a challenge to TSI. TSI come out come out wherever you are. Time to be schooled in PvP.
You guys played the **** out the game when it was getting worse, as did many of us. But suddenly it's just a bad game that's not worth playing. lol.
Have fun. A lot of us are still playing STO and enjoying other games too.
Oh and welcome back:
[7/1 5:52] [OrganizedPVP] TRIBBLE@TRIBBLE: [2:52] [Friend] @NazHuggyBear2 has logged on.
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Pidjin anyone?
PS I never asked anyone to leave sto. Have fun...
Short term memory I take it. Plenty of YouTube video to say otherwise......
Talking about memory, now I remember how much fun forum wars for sto is compared to in game pew
Yeah, because people like Horizon, Fook and MT were just horrible in their persistents, lololol.
It's not like you're the only team I challenge. I've challenged pretty much every PvP fleet in the game at some point or another because guess what, I like to have fun challenging PvP matches. And you know what, almost every single one of them accepted the challenge, except for Vice Squad and now Sad Pandas. Great company you keep there.
Do you really need six paragraphs to say you're a *****?
@DevolvedOne
well with hobo last year, we beat your A-team 12 time in a row and i was beggining to team call ...
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i remember in season 5 MT was hidding from me behind the turret in the base in CnH as you said they was horrible
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