I would if any of the lobi weapons were any good, but they're not - they'd have to be equivalent to rep and fleet gear to justify the cost but right now anyone buying them is being ripped off. The lobi sets seriously need to be looked at; the weapons bumped up to VR at the least and reevaluated to make them actually comparable.
I would if any of the lobi weapons were any good, but they're not - they'd have to be equivalent to rep and fleet gear to justify the cost but right now anyone buying them is being ripped off. The lobi sets seriously need to be looked at; the weapons bumped up to VR at the least and reevaluated to make them actually comparable.
To be honest, apart from a few gimmicks, The Lobi Items are bought for aesthetic Rarity more than anything
Take that Undine Wrist lance, as far as I can tell its roughly similar to the Undine Anti Proton weapons you can buy on the exchange, primary difference is that it fits with the armor visuals
29th century weapons, Again, Gimmicks, and an aesthetic to go with the wells Uniform
Shocktrooper cannon, Aesthetic to go with the Voth Researcher outfit
None of these are serious contenders for the most DPS dealing Ground weapons ( Not that I care, DPS is not my primary concern ) the point is your paying for the (often) Unique appearance of the weapons
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To be honest, I started a post earlier, asking about the value of the items. If they were account unlocks, I wouldn't have asked. I would have just bought one of the items that I thought would have been fun to try out. If it didn't work out, I would have used my next character to do a build specifically for it.
I have only one fleet ship. I first got the C-Store version of it. After getting the fleet version, I realized it wasn't worth it. I don't need the increase in shield, or hull. For my skill tree, and play style, that is too small of a difference to matter. Therefore, it makes fleet ships pointless for me since they are not account unlocks.
If the Lobi store items were account unlocks, I would be spending more EC to open lockboxes to get the Lobi to spend.
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Yes, please. Would buy more if it was account wide.
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of course we all would. are you asking a question?
the real point in it is, in the long run how many sales would the team get? account wide unlock would effectively mean a 1 time buy and thats it, however if it remained character unlock there is more potential money in it if people are more smarter with that hands and handing over cash then using that mass located just above and behind the sinuses, eyes and spine but just between the scalp.
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probably not. I only go for them when it's part of a character/ship idea and most don't interest me. if there was a way even 1 lobi a day, without needing to open lockboxs, then sure if for no other reason then I could.
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I believe yes, I would definitely buy a bit more in the LOBI store, and pop a few lockboxes, if I could get account-wide items. (Especially the clothing.) Sadly, I don't expect it'll ever happen, though I suppose anything's possible.
I would rather have fleet ships account wide. But would like more ways of getting lobi crystals though.
I was actually thinking about this earlier today... Perhaps as a "sale event" where the boxes drop double the normal amount or some missions that would grant 1-2 Lobis as part of the rewards (like the borg/voth/undine missions do with their rep items).
It depends on the item I think. The Ships? There's a reason they should remain account wide ~ they'd lose a lot of value otherwise. Costumes and Weapons I'd like to be made bound to account. Consoles I'd say (for the sake of value) remain as they are; character locked.
I agree with the ides of aesthetic items and non-combat pets becoming account-wide unlocks, as well as the idea of other things (i.e. ships) being discounted for other characters on an account once you've purchased one.
This said, I think this store is no place for consumable items - for instance, the Tholian web grenades and rad crystals should be in the Nukara rep store, and the various nanoenergy cells should be player-craftable (that is, added to the recipe pack receivable from 'Boldly They Rode').
I have yet to spend a single Lobi, partly because there is no account-wide unlock. It takes so long to accumulate enough Lobi for just 1 ship, let alone the console sets, that it's a hard decision to commit such a high value to a single character. Of course, many veteran players have now built up their fleets with Lobi ships over a period of years, but a little over 6 months on STO, I'm still not ready to pull the trigger...
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If I have eight toons and want Tachyo for each of them, I would have to buy eight of them. If I only had to buy one, then it would be a case of buying seven less.
I would buy more lobi stuff....... if they removed the lobi store and put all the items in the c-store.... preferably account wide too.
I would love if they did this. They can keep the lock boxes as is with the ships and lock box weapons and what not, but remove the Lobi and put Lobi items in the C-Store.
They would still make money this way. Lobi ships would all be 2500 c points, the weapon sets...hmmm maybe 300 like the current ground weapon set already in the store, costumes 500 and so on.
While account wide would be great in all honesty I'd settle for a simple bind to account. I don't like to lock my characters down to specific gear unless it is really amazing or really cheap and the majority of lobi items do not fit either category.
People hate loosing options and will typically make poor decisions that provide more options than an optimal decision that provides fewer options later on. I'd rather let my small stack of lobi sit in my account bank than tie it up in a few specific items on a specific character.
While account wide would be great in all honesty I'd settle for a simple bind to account. I don't like to lock my characters down to specific gear unless it is really amazing or really cheap and the majority of lobi items do not fit either category.
People hate loosing options and will typically make poor decisions that provide more options than an optimal decision that provides fewer options later on. I'd rather let my small stack of lobi sit in my account bank than tie it up in a few specific items on a specific character.
I would also be happy with account bound vs account unlock. The price of lobi store items is a little high for my taste and discourages me from buying items to test. If something I bought did not work out for the character I intended it for, it would be nice to use the account bank to trade it to another one. I have not bought a lobi store ship, so I don't know how you would trade ships between characters. Maybe put it back into an account-bound box?
But would like more ways of getting lobi crystals though.
That's my issue. I would buy more lobi stuff if I could actually get my hands on lobi. All the lobi I have ever gotten in this game, still won't buy me the ship I want.
I've read posts about the lottery boxes saying don't open them for the prizes. You will just be angry and disappointed. Open them for the lobi and if you do win a prize, all the better. So I thought, ok, there are some big prizes I would like to get, but also some lobi stuff I want, so I will try this approach.
What happens when I break open a 10 pack of keys? 4 lobi - 4 lobi - 4 lobi - 4 lobi - 4 lobi... Ok, so a second mortgage later, maybe I can finally make that purchase.
The whole point of Lobi and Lockboxes are too make money. They'd make less money if all this stuff was an account wide unlock.
That said, what if these items were an account wide unlock, but only for lifetimers? Gold subscribers could get a discount on other toons once an item is unlocked.
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To be honest, apart from a few gimmicks, The Lobi Items are bought for aesthetic Rarity more than anything
Take that Undine Wrist lance, as far as I can tell its roughly similar to the Undine Anti Proton weapons you can buy on the exchange, primary difference is that it fits with the armor visuals
29th century weapons, Again, Gimmicks, and an aesthetic to go with the wells Uniform
Shocktrooper cannon, Aesthetic to go with the Voth Researcher outfit
None of these are serious contenders for the most DPS dealing Ground weapons ( Not that I care, DPS is not my primary concern ) the point is your paying for the (often) Unique appearance of the weapons
I have only one fleet ship. I first got the C-Store version of it. After getting the fleet version, I realized it wasn't worth it. I don't need the increase in shield, or hull. For my skill tree, and play style, that is too small of a difference to matter. Therefore, it makes fleet ships pointless for me since they are not account unlocks.
If the Lobi store items were account unlocks, I would be spending more EC to open lockboxes to get the Lobi to spend.
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of course we all would. are you asking a question?
the real point in it is, in the long run how many sales would the team get? account wide unlock would effectively mean a 1 time buy and thats it, however if it remained character unlock there is more potential money in it if people are more smarter with that hands and handing over cash then using that mass located just above and behind the sinuses, eyes and spine but just between the scalp.
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if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Not likely to spend it anytime soon..
I was actually thinking about this earlier today... Perhaps as a "sale event" where the boxes drop double the normal amount or some missions that would grant 1-2 Lobis as part of the rewards (like the borg/voth/undine missions do with their rep items).
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lotteries without Publicly accessible odds are evil.
publicly accessible odds are lies
lies are evil.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
I, however, would conjecture that lies are just another person's truths... :P
I would point out that that not quite right :P
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
so based on this...Lobi IS EVIL
account wide ships/guns/etc. would just be silly
though vanity pets would be good for account wide as well ^^
Egg-sactly...
This said, I think this store is no place for consumable items - for instance, the Tholian web grenades and rad crystals should be in the Nukara rep store, and the various nanoenergy cells should be player-craftable (that is, added to the recipe pack receivable from 'Boldly They Rode').
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Not that it matters until we can actually get to the Mirror Universe where there's a snowball's chance on Nukara of it actually happening. :cool:
If I have eight toons and want Tachyo for each of them, I would have to buy eight of them. If I only had to buy one, then it would be a case of buying seven less.
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I would love if they did this. They can keep the lock boxes as is with the ships and lock box weapons and what not, but remove the Lobi and put Lobi items in the C-Store.
They would still make money this way. Lobi ships would all be 2500 c points, the weapon sets...hmmm maybe 300 like the current ground weapon set already in the store, costumes 500 and so on.
People hate loosing options and will typically make poor decisions that provide more options than an optimal decision that provides fewer options later on. I'd rather let my small stack of lobi sit in my account bank than tie it up in a few specific items on a specific character.
I would also be happy with account bound vs account unlock. The price of lobi store items is a little high for my taste and discourages me from buying items to test. If something I bought did not work out for the character I intended it for, it would be nice to use the account bank to trade it to another one. I have not bought a lobi store ship, so I don't know how you would trade ships between characters. Maybe put it back into an account-bound box?
That's my issue. I would buy more lobi stuff if I could actually get my hands on lobi. All the lobi I have ever gotten in this game, still won't buy me the ship I want.
I've read posts about the lottery boxes saying don't open them for the prizes. You will just be angry and disappointed. Open them for the lobi and if you do win a prize, all the better. So I thought, ok, there are some big prizes I would like to get, but also some lobi stuff I want, so I will try this approach.
What happens when I break open a 10 pack of keys? 4 lobi - 4 lobi - 4 lobi - 4 lobi - 4 lobi... Ok, so a second mortgage later, maybe I can finally make that purchase.
That said, what if these items were an account wide unlock, but only for lifetimers? Gold subscribers could get a discount on other toons once an item is unlocked.
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