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  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    Every other / command must be an exploit too.

    Entirely up to Cryptic, not you or I. What do they say on the matter?
  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Entirely up to Cryptic, not you or I. What do they say on the matter?

    I thought we established Cryptic gave these commands to us. We have the answer already.
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  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    I thought we established Cryptic gave these commands to us. We have the answer already.

    Because they've never made a mistake or left something "out in the open" that wasn't intended, like that one saucer that a few people could get on that one ship until Cryptic went "Oh, TRIBBLE" and removed it again? :P
  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    At this point we should call /stuck an exploit too since it clearly alters our "instance" and that's a big no-no.
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  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    At this point we should call /stuck an exploit too since it clearly alters our "instance" and that's a big no-no.

    If Cryptic says so, yes. If not...you do understand how this works, right? :eek:
  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    If Cryptic says so, yes. If not...you do understand how this works, right? :eek:

    Cryptic has never called either an exploit nor a non-exploit, so /movementreset is no more an exploit than /stuck or /clear (clears chat) or /e Dance.
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  • shaanithegreenshaanithegreen Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    If Cryptic says so, yes. If not...you do understand how this works, right? :eek:

    You have failed to point out the post where Cryptic said this wasn't okay.
  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    voporak wrote: »
    Cryptic has never called either an exploit nor a non-exploit, so /movementreset is no more an exploit than /stuck or /clear (clears chat) or /e Dance.

    You dirty exploiter. How dare you use emotes.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Because they've never made a mistake or left something "out in the open" that wasn't intended, like that one saucer that a few people could get on that one ship until Cryptic went "Oh, TRIBBLE" and removed it again? :P

    It has been mentioned in the thread before that this is not a mistake, nor an exploit, as seen in lan451's post on this:
    lan451 wrote: »
    Using debug commands isn't an exploit. From what I understand, the game is intentionally set up that way to allow us access to certain ones. During the missing textures bug that lasted many of us over 6 months, Crytpiccliff came and gave us a temporary work around using some of those debug commands and even expressed that he was grateful that the game was set up that way so that we could use them.

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=16149371&postcount=618

    There's no exploiting going on here. The tribble cave and SFA however...there might be.

    In fact, it helped many of us back then to succesfully play STO without issues. One single command.
    Basically it's a tool, a part of the game. Furthermore it's a tool even the devs. have recommended using when encountering issues. So unless you consider multiple posts by a dev. explaining players how to use this as a "mistake", no, it's not an exploit.
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  • shaanithegreenshaanithegreen Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    You dirty exploiter. How dare you use emotes.

    Why don't you stop being antisocial and accept that your enjoyment is secondary to being a prop in my worn out jokes?
  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    You have failed to point out the post where Cryptic said this wasn't okay.

    You already failed. Completely. With that whole nonsense spiel about filling someone's screen with popups that keep them from playing being comparable to a disco ball which does nothing of the sort. Talk to someone else- they might still think you have a shred of credibility to your name, unlike me.
  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Why don't you stop being antisocial and accept that your enjoyment is secondary to being a prop in my worn out jokes?

    You have a sandwich, so I can't be starving! :rolleyes:
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  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    You already failed. Completely. With that whole nonsense spiel about filling someone's screen with popups that keep them from playing being comparable to a disco ball which does nothing of the sort. Talk to someone else- they might still think you have a shred of credibility to your name, unlike me.

    Sighs heavily.......but Ashkrik is right on this one.

    The command in question is part of a suite of commands that Cryptic have reccommended on occasion.

    Even given the binary nature of the choice, it is more likely given past utterences that this is a legal move than an illegal one.

    Would it make things clear if Cryptic gave us a definitive yay or nay on the issue? Of course.

    But, in the meantime, its more reasonable to presume it'll be allowed than not allowed.
  • eulifdaviseulifdavis Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    voporak wrote: »
    You have a sandwich, so I can't be starving! :rolleyes:

    That's my signature, not his. :P
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  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    eulifdavis wrote: »
    That's my signature, not his. :P

    It's actually thlaylierah's, not yours.
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  • notrealednanotrealedna Member Posts: 1,028
    edited May 2014
    lol roleplayers use chat command exploits to counter legit things in game. :D
  • shaanithegreenshaanithegreen Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    You already failed. Completely. With that whole nonsense spiel about filling someone's screen with popups that keep them from playing

    The highlighted part is the part you're making up.

    Feel free to toss disco balls around, as long as everyone can "exploit" their way past your hideous sense of humor and total lack of social awareness.
  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    shpoks wrote: »
    It has been mentioned in the thread before that this is not a mistake, nor an exploit, as seen in lan451's post on this:

    Missed previously, noted now.
  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Why don't you stop being antisocial and accept that your enjoyment is secondary to being a prop in my worn out jokes?

    You do know i was being sarcastic right?
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    You do know i was being sarcastic right?

    I believe he was joining you in that particular line of fun...

    edit: Or maybe not...cause it sure read as if he were joking as well.
  • shaanithegreenshaanithegreen Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    You do know i was being sarcastic right?

    That was directed at other people.
  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I believe he was joining you in that particular line of fun...

    Eh, hard to tell sometimes. :D
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  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    You do know i was being sarcastic right?

    You never go full derp, frenemy! :P:);):rolleyes:
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    wow some hurt ppl they cant troll as easily now because of a command calling it a exploit lmao
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    voporak wrote: »
    You never go full derp, frenemy! :P:);):rolleyes:

    And this is why we need that sarcastica font.
  • rickeyredshirtrickeyredshirt Member Posts: 1,059 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    eulifdavis wrote: »
    No, it's using a socializing tool exactly as intended. If you don't want to participate, you're welcome to remove yourself from the public setting. Your time is not any more valuable than mine, so you're not allowed to tell me I cannot do something that is explicitly sanctioned. By the same token, I'm not requiring you to participate or to leave, I'm merely informing you of the options available to you (and everyone else).

    I'm not sure how much less "anti-social" I can be with them.

    This thread (and many others) are proof its not working as intended, a social tool should not cause animosity in the player base. But if that is your opinion you are more than entitled to it.

    You work in telemarketing don't you?
  • eulifdaviseulifdavis Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    You work in telemarketing don't you?

    Nope, tech support. I have to fix computers when people get it in their heads that they know better than the software developers who create the programs they use. ;)


    voporak wrote: »
    It's actually thlaylierah's, not yours.

    And proper attribution is given in the signature. Since I haven't seen thlaylierah in this thread (though I also haven't been looking), I believe I'm the only person with that quote in their signature participating in this thread. Hence, "that's my signature".
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  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    That was directed at other people.

    Usually, quoting someone means the response is directed at them.

    Y'know, just like spamming someone's screen full of pop-ups interferes with them playing the game outside of your little world.
  • rickeyredshirtrickeyredshirt Member Posts: 1,059 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    daan2006 wrote: »
    wow some hurt ppl they cant troll as easily now because of a command calling it a exploit lmao

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