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should I finish into darkness?
marc8219
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I despise JJ so haven't tried watching it until now since its on Netflix, I'm about 7 minutes in so far and spent about half that time alt tabbed out, I was about to close it, just wondering if there is any reason for me not to.
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If you hate something before you watch it, then you've already made up your mind.
You've already reached the conclusion of your opinion, so why go anywhere else?
Its a fun ride. The ending is kind of overblown and flat at the same time... but still. Its not offensive and not as stupid as the first one.
So I'd suggest to finish it, just don't scale it with movies like WOK or The undiscovered country.
Yeah, ST5: Final Frontier might be better suited. Though I'd say Into Darkness was the better of the two.
If you want to enjoy a action packed science fiction movie, that uses rebooted characters from the original series, the movie will deliver it.
It's a matter of personal preference, and what you percieve the franchise to be.
Just watch it. Don't alt-tab out of it, don't expect it to be Braga's story. Simply watch it.
This is still not a reboot.
A reboot means clean slate.
Start trek 2009 connected the film clearly with the original movies and serieses and in into darkness... Not wanting to spoil for the guy who might not have seen it.. There is a clear conversation about the original encounter with a certain person compared to the current encounter in that movie. That's not a reboot that's a contunuation.
Just approach it as you would any summer film. Turn your brain off and enjoy it.
Do you watch Fringe?
You should watch Fringe.
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
Want to complain? Go watch TMP, FF, or Insurrection then watch it again and be grateful.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Of course that means exactly this.
I honestly do think some trek fans get so caught up in whats canon, whats not, how fast a warp engine should be that they forget its there as a source of entertainment. forget about JJ, forget about what you think its going to be like or what timeline you prefer and just try to see the movie.
you'll never find out if you like it by not watching it.
I think the writing was overall better as for the first part, but I still have the feeling they could do better. The base story in both isn't too bad, but sometimes it feels like they are not going the last mile.
You, however, seem to suffer from a very specific condition. You already decided to hate it before you watched it. So in your case, this is my advice. Stop. Now. That movie will be on TV again some day. If you can start to watch it with a clear mind, not already decided to hate it, then go for it. It wil positively surprise you. Watching it when you will hate it no matter what, can only result in you hating it.
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That being said, much like you may have liked Episode X and hated Episode Y or enjoyed Movie A and facepalmed Movie B - whether you like it or not will entirely depend on having watched it...
...but yeah, it's not going to be your typical Star Trek much like 2009 wasn't. Then again, remember how some TOS fans felt about TNG? How TOS and TNG fans felt about VOY, DS9, ENT? How all the different groups may or may not continue to feel a certain way about the different series? It's pretty much the same old same old with the JJ timeline.
Seriously, folks talk about Trek canon as if it were invariable, inviolable, and never internally contradictory.
actually, sometimes i'll put Into Darkness on..... i kind of like the soundtrack
Great, another Motion Picture basher...:mad:
Every series and most movies butchered established canon in one or the other way. The actual violations from the jj movies are not any worst. Quiet the opposite, a lot of the often referred "violations" can be discussed away.
My problems for the most part are in the movies themselves. And here, ID isn't glad as bad.
I think some people are just full of sh*t!
Some folks just enjoy different things. For them, it has nothing to do with the Canon debate at all - simply has to do with the story, the directing, the production, the editing, and everything else - to them it's no different than why they might have liked Wrath of Khan and felt that Nemesis did all it could to kill off the franchise. Heck, like with other movies...folks that liked Tim Burton's Batman but cry thinking about Batman & Robin. Folks that enjoyed the Indiana Jones movies but like to pretend Crystal Skull didn't happen. Folks that complained about Return of the Jedi after watching Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back...having no idea that Ewoks were nothing compared to the travesty that was coming.
2. No matter how you change the timeline, you still have an age gap between the characters. Scotty is established to be considerably older than Chevok.
Its sole redeeming virtue was that it was the first new live-action Trek in ten years. By that point, we'd have watched The Final Frontier and enjoyed it.